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Reply #405 - Aug 5th, 2024 at 5:16pm
 
So,  Higgins dumps on Shiraz and says.....Stature Barred.

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Reply #406 - Aug 5th, 2024 at 6:55pm
 
Aussie wrote on Aug 5th, 2024 at 5:16pm:
So,  Higgins dumps on Shiraz and says.....Stature Barred.

How jolly!





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Reply #408 - Aug 7th, 2024 at 10:43pm
 
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/reynolds-feared-losing-job-over-lying-c...

Deuce 2.0 ... looks shifty.... would you buy a used story from this man??

"Senator Reynolds said she had initially blamed the Labor Party for the attacks on her but she realised how well prepared Ms Higgins and her now husband David Sharaz's plan was, as the alleged instigators.

"They had a package for the media. They had a package for the Me Too movement. They clearly had a package for disaffected Liberals ... pitching it to them as well."
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Reply #409 - Aug 9th, 2024 at 7:02am
 
And the Deuce goes on:-

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/karma-text-from-lehrmann-s-barrister/ar...

Better by the minute..... what a sordid tale all round.............

I'm waiting for St Brittany to build her portfolio as a fearless but modest protector and defender of 'women's rights', and make a comeback in Australian politics under Gillard's guidance once the time is considered right......

Julia Gillard - She currently serves as the inaugural Chair of the Global Institute for Women's Leadership .... St Brittany is a 'visiting fellow' there and her photo shows her most modestly looking down ... the sweet scent of propaganda fills the air... you mark my words.

https://giwl.anu.edu.au/

Murky connections with the UN....... ANU you say?  There's an end to it.........   Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin

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Reply #410 - Aug 9th, 2024 at 12:29pm
 
Why do equal rights for people other than the narrow group you categorise yourself in hurt you so much?

Is a level playing field and a merit-based system where you don't hold an ingrained advanced really scare you so much?
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Reply #411 - Aug 10th, 2024 at 7:53pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Aug 9th, 2024 at 12:29pm:
Why do equal rights for
unwarranted and unequal one-sided demands by small groups of people
other than the narrow group you categorise yourself in hurt you so much
everyone
You actually need to ask?


Is a level playing field and a merit-based system where you don't hold an ingrained advanced really scare you so much?
utter nonsense - you are raving again.


Define your 'level playing field' generated by giving special privileges and preference to some..... stick with the principle - you're, as usual, making no headway with playing the man.  Only an idiot plays the man .... an idiot with plenty to hide.

What 'equal rights' are you talking about here, fantasist?  There are no men's organisations pushing for men to take all the top spots... only women's ones, and they are paid to plan their campaigns and are funded liberally (sic)  ... where is the balance and 'equal rights' there?  Everyone has the right to stand for election.................. and vote... they don't need special organisations any more than the Abos do with all their organisations and voices already....what IS your problem apart from fantasy and self-delusion?

You really are a weird one, Kanga... definitely a sheila...no bloke could think like that... oh, wait... the Albo type does.....   Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes ... and you are both Stalinist Fascists.... and are very dangerous in your clear insanity.
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Reply #412 - Aug 10th, 2024 at 8:02pm
 
Now then - the the juice without the Deuce as whipping boy......

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/senator-breaks-down-over-bullying-claim...

"Senator Reynolds has begun her final day of evidence in her defamation case against Brittany Higgins.

The senator is suing Ms Higgins and her husband David Sharaz over social media posts the couple shared in 2022 and 2023.

The posts were critical of Senator Reynolds’ handling of Ms Higgins’ allegation she was raped in Parliament House in 2019 by her then-colleague Mr Lehrmann.

He was charged with rape and faced trial in 2022, but the trial was aborted due to juror misconduct.

The charge was dropped and Mr Lehrmann continues to maintain his innocence.

In the Western Australian Supreme Court on Friday, Ms Higgins’ lawyer Rachel Young SC put to the senator that she had brought defamation proceeding against other parties following Ms Higgins’ rape allegations.

Senator Reynolds confirmed to Ms Young that she took action against the ACT because she was concerned about comments made by the Director of Public Prosecutions Shane Drumgold.

The senator settled with the ACT for $70,000 plus $20,000.

The senator confirmed she published a Facebook post in March this year about her action against the ACT, detailing the apology and settlement she received.

The post also said she had initiated further defamation action against other parties.

Senator Reynolds confirmed she had also taken action against Harper Collins, author Aaron Patrick, The Spectator and The Independent, that had all been settled.

Senator Reynolds was sobbing as she told the court she carries guilt for privately telling Labor senators what Senator Kimberley Kitching had told her about the anonymous letter.

Senator Kitching had been sent an anonymous letter containing information there had been an incident in Senator Reynolds’ office.

Senator Reynolds had told the court earlier this week that Senator Kitching told her about the letter and that Labor knew about the incident and were going to “rain hell” on her.

But Senator Kitching publicly denied having that conversation with Senator Reynolds, after she privately told Labor senators she knew.

Senator Reynolds said she now wished she had kept her confidence.

“I believe what I said to them caused them to bully her to death, I carry a lot of guilt,” she said.

“I should not have weakened and told them even in private.

“It was very clear how angry she was at me, it wasn’t just tweets, it was in parliament, it was in Question Time.”

Senator Reynolds told the court she believed it had led to Senator Kitching’s death.

Ms Young put to the senator that by privately telling Labor senators about their conversation had ultimately led to bad relationships with her colleagues and her death.

“It did,” Senator Reynolds said.

“It is widely speculated by others I am not the first to come to that conclusion.

“That is when she got angry with me.”

Senator Reynolds on Friday faced intense questioning about whether she knew her staffer had allegedly been sexually assaulted on the night of the security breach involving Mr Lehrmann and Ms Higgins accessing her office after hours.

Ms Young put to the senator that her suspicions must have been raised because Ms Higgins was found undressed and she was intoxicated.

The senator said she was not made aware of a rape allegation or that anything criminal had occurred.

She told the court she had enough experience not to jump to conclusions about what may have happened on that night.


The senator said there were many possibilities about what could have happened, and she was concerned Ms Higgins could not remember.

But she said she was comforted that Ms Higgins was going to see her doctor.

“We were happy to hear she was going to the doctor, because she could not remember,” she said.

“As her employers we are not counsellors but can provide assistance.”

The senator denied inviting Ms Higgins’ father to support her daughter at a meeting because she knew what had happened.

Senator Reynolds explained Ms Higgins was facing the prospect she could lose her job over the security breach, and had concerns about what happened on that night.

She said Ms Higgins was relatively new in her office and she thought it was a good thing to do because she knew her father was in Canberra at the time.

Ms Young asked the senator if she normally invited family members to meetings about security breaches and if she had invited Mr Lerhmann’s mother to his meeting.

Ms Young asked the senator questions about the way she handled the meeting with Ms Higgins after the alleged rape.

Senator Reynolds said there was a wide range of options drunk young people could get up to late at night and she did not jump to conclusions about what may have happened.

She told the court they discussed the security breach first, then she asked Ms Higgins about her memory and what had happened.

Ms Higgins told her she had been drunk, she was sorry and could not remember much, Senator Reynolds said.

She said she asked Ms Higgins if she had the EAP helpline number and mentioned if she did want to talk to the police, Ms Brown could take her there
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Reply #413 - Aug 10th, 2024 at 8:05pm
 
... more... (juicier and juicier) ....

"The senator denied she told Ms Higgins this was something women go through and if she was going to report the matter to police, to tell her first.

Ms Young questioned why she did not discuss the contents of the DPS report with Ms Higgins.

She said it wasn’t on her mind to talk about the DPS report in that meeting and that she thought Ms Brown had discussions around what happened with Ms Higgins.

The senator said she could remember saying to Ms Higgins that she was her boss and wasn’t the right person to have discussions about intimate matters.

“I said again the AFP are far better placed to put her in touch with people who could walk her through the process to remember,” she said.

“I was saying I am not the right person, I am not a trained counsellor, I am no way skilled or experienced to have those conversations.

“I felt very strongly she should use the avenue of the police in the building to help her remember.”

The senator denied asking Ms Higgins if there was any contact or if Mr Lehrmann had touched her without consent.

“I would not dream of asking any employee those questions, I am not trained to ask those questions,” Senator Reynolds said.

“I would still do the same thing today if I had a young staff member in distress, I would refer them to a counsellor or anyone who could provide that advice."

Senator Reynolds said the first time she was told about an allegation of rape was at a meeting with then AFP Assistant Commissioner Leanne Close, who advised her Ms Higgins had decided to proceed with a sexual assault complaint.

The senator was questioned about notes from the assistant commissioner, which stated ‘min pointed to the couch’ and ‘found out through the DPS report.’

Questions were put to the senator that she told the assistant commissioner they had become aware of the incident on Tuesday and it happened on her couch on Saturday.

Senator Reynolds told the court that the notes from the assistant commissioner were not the entire conversation, but a summary of what had been said.

She continued denying knowing about the sexual assault before they had met.

“This is what I had been told by Assistant Commissioner Close, I was actually addressing Fiona Brown that it was on the couch,” Senator Reynolds said.

“I do not recall the assistant commissioner telling me that Ms Higgins thought she had been drugged.

“What she did say was that the appropriate actions was to allow Ms Higgins agency and we should support her with anything she needed."
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Reply #414 - Aug 10th, 2024 at 8:14pm
 
Hmmm - so at first Ms Higgins could not remember what had happened when interviewed soon after .... but later her memory cleared up.... she had a boyfriend at home wondering WTF she was up to.... she was being interviewed about a breach of security that had cost Deuce his job..... but she didn't remember what had happened when interviewed by her boss.  Suddenly much later it all came clear.... but she didn't even go to the doctor.....

O.....K.....

Jeez - some of you people are suckers..... you'll believe anything.... like Reynolds, I've had enough experience not to jump to conclusions about such things, but to wait on events and on facts...  some of you clowns just leap for the flaming brands, the poor girl position, and the pitchforks and lynching ropes... and join the raving demand for conviction upon accusation for blokes accused of 'rape'.  You sure know how to make life difficult for the real rape victims, don't you?

You should all be ashamed of yourselves... it's arseholes like you who have ruined a man's life and who actually make it hard for genuine complaints to go ahead.

J'accuse!!  Are you going to call Reynolds and witnesses at the interview liars?  Or simply look at the obvious truth.....or will you try on the Bond defence - now the Higgins defence - I don't remember....

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Footnote:-  This is all looking bad for Lee and his cave man jurisprudence....  oooga-ooga... all man driven by lust can't control self ... oogga booga... plied her with drinks all night - only one shout on card for group of seven or eight ... ooga booga ..... ah... must have had hidden source of funds then!!   Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes   Oooga-booga....
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Reply #415 - Aug 10th, 2024 at 10:24pm
 
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Reply #416 - Aug 11th, 2024 at 11:50am
 
I see the Pubescent Neo-Fascists have all gone to ground now...... I'll tell you what - they can carry on all they like with the sledging, showing that they wouldn't know a fact if it was solid gold and they stubbed their toe on it and with their demands that the State take total control over everyone's lives by setting in place guilt by denunciation/accusation as the rule of the land and law -  but the facts are starting to look awfully bad for The Case.

Reynolds - supported by witnesses - has sunk the rape case.  Do you now call them all liars as your only way out?

After the incredible Lee gaffes this could be the most important case in the history of Australian law - could lead us finally to the long overdue Royal Commission into the judiciary and into jurisprudence - given the 'judiciary's' historical lust for convicting people accused on any pretext - guilt by accusation - as well as their eternal infernal blundering around real cases where real damage is done to real victims.

Also could begin to unravel the filthy labrynth within which political machinations hide in this country and others... how filth and dirt can be created out of nothing and thrown around to destroy people.... an old tradition with the Australian yob who has no real mind... look at Sad Kanga throwing the assertions around without a single support and hoping to score a point by doing so and appealing to the yobness and blood lust of the audience... the mob baying at the gates ....

Meantime the blood lust of the crowd has seen them throwing rotten fruit at Deuce as he's carried in a tumbril to his inevitable execution - their moral superiority doesn't extend to any consideration for the hell he is going through after never being found guilty in a proper court or to any thought that - as Reynolds said - a balanced mind would not jump to conclusions at all, but wait on facts.  And then - when the ' facts' are developed/incubated sufficiently to make a good story to protect and promote the person accusing - out comes the accusation.

In the second 'case' against Deuce - 49 days later.......

All this is the finest argument for NEVER allowing guilt by accusation/denunciation in this country or for allowing accusations with little or no merit to even proceed to a hearing in a biased court immersed in the baying crowds who gather for any such 'event' to push their own barrows (whatever they are) ..... you are warned.

Monty Python missed out in not doing a French Revolution thing:-

Man to old woman throwing cabbages:- 

"I say Madam - what did that evil aristo in that tumbril do to you to make you so angry at him?"

"Well - nuffin'!"

"Then why are you throwing cabbages at him?"

"Aw, it makes me feel better - more morally superior, you know... a be'er class of person than 'im" ...  **flings cabbage**  ..."besides - 'e wouldn't be there if 'e hadn't been a bad 'un, would 'e?"

"But how do you know that for sure... I mean - the poor man is going to his execution...."

"No need - the judge said so... now lea' me alone t' frow me cabbages..."

"But wouldn't you be better off eating those cabbages?  I mean - you are poor!"

"Nah - s'like a football match, innit - yer jest go along wif the roar of the crowd... you know..."
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Reply #417 - Aug 15th, 2024 at 9:16pm
 
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/senator-had-heated-debate-over-higgins-...

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/reynolds-former-staffer-recounts-heated...

Juicier and juicier ... before we go on  - in the ACT it is a sexual assault to have sex with a woman incapable of meaningful consent - in this case - IF she was drunk and it did actually happen - I have always said that, and stand by it, and have also always said that IF there was any case for sexual assault, it was grossly mishandled by the complainant and others, starting with security staff, from the very beginning.  Now it looks even worse for the complainant of sexual assault:-

"A former senior aide has recalled Senator Linda Reynolds having a "heated" debate with her staff about calling in police after Brittany Higgins' alleged rape.

The ex-defence minister is suing her former staffer, Ms Higgins, over a series of social media posts she alleges contain mistruths - including that she mishandled the response to the incident - that she believes damaged her reputation.

Senator Reynold's former acting chief of staff during the 2019 federal election, Dean Carlson, told a Perth court there was robust discussion about what to do in the days afterwards.

Mr Carlson said Senator Reynolds had consulted the then special minister of state, Alex Hawke, and backed informing the Australian Federal Police.

"The conversation became quite heated. Ms Brown did not want to do that without the permission of Ms Higgins," he told the WA Supreme Court on Thursday, referring to the senator's chief of staff Fiona Brown.

"There was concern around the circumstances, how Ms Higgins was found in a state of undress warranted the opportunity for the AFP to determine whether anything had occurred."

Mr Carlson said it was eventually agreed Ms Brown would contact Ms Higgins to offer support in making contact with the police.

"I supported Ms Brown's position. I thought it was important Ms Higgins had agency over any action and her privacy was paramount," he said.

Mr Carlson said the late-night security breach on February 23, 2019, that led to Ms Higgins and her then-colleague Bruce Lehrmann - who has always denied any rape took place - being in the senator's ministerial suite was concerning.

Asked if he suspected a sexual assault had occurred at that stage, he said: "There were too many question marks ... of course that was a live option."

"We were working with a void of information," he said.

He told the court he understood Ms Higgins was later offered alternatives about where she would work during the 2019 election campaign, in the weeks after the alleged rape in the senator's office.

These included remaining in Canberra, working from the Gold Coast where her parents lived and in Perth "where the minister would spend the bulk of the election campaign".

Mr Carlson said that during the campaign the senator's office paid for Ms Higgins to travel to the Gold Coast "in recognition of the fact that she was the only one in the campaign who hadn't seen family for an extended period of time".

"I recall distinctly that was an unusual arrangement because we actually had to work out how we would do that within travel policy because she wasn't based in Queensland, she was based in Canberra," he said.

Ms Higgins' defence statement of claim says she felt "isolated, traumatised, depressed, unsupported and confused" during her time in Perth for the 2019 federal election campaign.

Mr Carlson said staff who travelled to Perth for the election campaign stayed in the Aloft Hotel near the senator's campaign office.

He said Ms Higgins was often invited to and joined after-work social activities, such as dinner and drinks.

"I found Ms Higgins to be a very enthusiastic team member of the team and whenever I tasked her with work it was always done," he said.

A long-time friend of the senator, Denita Wawn, told the court it was "devastating" to see the retiring politician so physically and mentally unwell after her breakdown at parliament house in 2021.

"She was a mess ... Physically, she was shaking, she was pale, she looked weak. Mentally, she was in a high state of distress," she said.

"I spent considerable time in her home with her, looking after her ... There were a number of us that took turns to be with her."

The court heard that after the Labor Party was elected to office in 2022, the senator was in an unusually high state of distress while holidaying with friends in northern NSW.

"She was very upset that she had not been made a shadow minister, not even a junior minister, which in effect had stopped her ministerial career in the future," Ms Wawn said."
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Reply #419 - Aug 20th, 2024 at 12:51am
 
Former staffer Brittany Higgins will no longer be called to take the stand in WA Liberal Senator Linda Reynolds’ defamation lawsuit against her after her lawyers considered it unnecessary.
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