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Reply #2 - Aug 9^th, 2023 at 2:05pm

This is a claim, primarily by the ignorant. There is no evidence that the Indigenous did any such thing. None what so ever. No remains amongst midden mounds, caves, etc. Most of the Megafauna were dead before the arrival of the Indigenous on the continent. More than likely because of climate change which they were not adaptable to. So, run away Racist one and try and blame something else on the Indigenous people. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #3 - Aug 9^th, 2023 at 2:31pm

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 9^th, 2023 at 2:05pm:

This is a claim, primarily by the ignorant. There is no evidence that the Indigenous did any such thing. None what so ever. No remains amongst midden mounds, caves, etc. Most of the Megafauna were dead before the arrival of the Indigenous on the continent. More than likely because of climate change which they were not adaptable to. So, run away Racist one and try and blame something else on the Indigenous people. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Any evidence, cockwomble?

And what caused THAT climate change?? Anthropogenic burning of lands as a way of hunting?

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Re: abos killed the megafauna
Reply #4 - Aug 9^th, 2023 at 2:31pm

What about the written reports of the extermination of the Little People?

Hmmm - megafauna died out 40,000 years ago - the time span seems to be contracting again... but anyway - we don't give special citizenships out based on seniority.

Once a citizen always a citizen - always have been - always will be.... no foreign sovereignties accepted ...

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Re: abos killed the megafauna
Reply #5 - Aug 9^th, 2023 at 2:31pm

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 9^th, 2023 at 2:05pm:

This is a claim, primarily by the ignorant. There is no evidence that the Indigenous did any such thing. None what so ever. No remains amongst midden mounds, caves, etc. Most of the Megafauna were dead before the arrival of the Indigenous on the continent. More than likely because of climate change which they were not adaptable to. So, run away Racist one and try and blame something else on the Indigenous people. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

You are so full of crap Brian.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_megafauna

Many modern researchers, including Tim Flannery, think that with the arrival of early Aboriginal Australians (around 70,000~65,000 years ago), hunting and the use of fire to manage their environment may have contributed to the extinction of the megafauna.

New evidence based on accurate optically stimulated luminescence and uranium-thorium dating of megafaunal remains suggests that humans were the ultimate cause of the extinction for some of the megafauna in Australia.

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People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

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Reply #6 - Aug 9^th, 2023 at 2:41pm

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 9^th, 2023 at 2:05pm:

This is a claim, primarily by the ignorant. There is no evidence that the Indigenous did any such thing. None what so ever. No remains amongst midden mounds, caves, etc. Most of the Megafauna were dead before the arrival of the Indigenous on the continent. More than likely because of climate change which they were not adaptable to. So, run away Racist one and try and blame something else on the Indigenous people. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Not that racist tag again?

dear Brian,
with your many university degrees a higher standard is expected from you.
FD has proven you wrong with a simple Google search. tsk tsk Roll Eyes

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Reply #7 - Aug 9^th, 2023 at 2:52pm

Of course they wiped out the megafauna, as all migrating human groups did after migration out of Africa.

African megafauna evolved with humans and so they evolved an instinctive fear of humans, hence many megafauna species still exist there.

The same wasn't true of megafauna in Europe, Asia, Australia and the Americas, where they not only had no instinctive fear of humans, but they would also attempt to predate on humans - given that they had not evolved an instinct for wariness of sapiens' intelligence.

But, please... When it comes to established cultures in Asia and Europe, collectively all of them, during the last 500 years, have driven more species to extinction or near-extinction than aboriginal peoples would have done in 60,000 years.

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 40920	Re: abos killed the megafauna Reply #8 - Aug 9^th, 2023 at 3:14pm No Megafauna remains have been found in any middens, in caves, anywhere with Indigenous marks on them. Tsk, tsk, tsk...
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Reply #9 - Aug 9^th, 2023 at 3:23pm

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 9^th, 2023 at 3:14pm:

No Megafauna remains have been found in any middens, in caves, anywhere with Indigenous marks on them. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

The likelihood that they did not encounter dangerous megafauna with no instinctive fear of humans is nil.

The chances that they did not defend themselves against these animals to the point of driving them to extinction if necessary is likely nil - and nevermind the ones that were easy to catch and eat.

Why would the aboriginal experience with megafauna be any different to those encounters by migrating Asiatics into the Americas and Neanderthals, Denisovans and Sapiens into Europe and Asia?

Ancient migrating hunter-gatherers were not conservationists - they were survivalists.

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 40920	Re: abos killed the megafauna Reply #10 - Aug 9^th, 2023 at 3:34pm No Megafauna remains have been found in any middens, in caves, anywhere with Indigenous marks on them. No evidence. Tsk, tsk, tsk...
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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Crocodile Hunter: Origins Posts: 24601 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: abos killed the megafauna Reply #11 - Aug 9^th, 2023 at 3:38pm Brian Ross wrote on Aug 9^th, 2023 at 3:34pm: No Megafauna remains have been found in any middens, in caves, anywhere with Indigenous marks on them. No evidence. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Just a few dinosaur bones and stuff, though....
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 103037 Melbourne Gender:	Re: abos killed the megafauna Reply #12 - Aug 9^th, 2023 at 3:51pm Brian Ross wrote on Aug 9^th, 2023 at 3:34pm: No Megafauna remains have been found in any middens, in caves, anywhere with Indigenous marks on them. No evidence. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Abbos killed the Megafauna - it's undeniable.
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Re: abos killed the megafauna
Reply #13 - Aug 9^th, 2023 at 3:51pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 9^th, 2023 at 3:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Aug 9^th, 2023 at 3:34pm:

No Megafauna remains have been found in any middens, in caves, anywhere with Indigenous marks on them. No evidence. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Just a few dinosaur bones and stuff, though....

Another ignorant myth. No Dinosaurs lived at the time humans have. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 40920	Re: abos killed the megafauna Reply #14 - Aug 9^th, 2023 at 3:52pm Bobby. wrote on Aug 9^th, 2023 at 3:51pm: Brian Ross wrote on Aug 9^th, 2023 at 3:34pm: No Megafauna remains have been found in any middens, in caves, anywhere with Indigenous marks on them. No evidence. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Abbos killed the Megafauna - it's undeniable. Where is the evidence, Bobby? Where? Tsk, tsk, tsk...
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