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Reply #1 - Aug 14th, 2023 at 3:02pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 14th, 2023 at 2:50pm:


It's good to see Makarrata in action: coming together in peace after a long dispute.
Makarrata is another word for Treaty or agreement-making. It is the culmination of our agenda. It captures our aspirations for a fair and honest relationship with government and a better future for our children based on justice and self-determination.

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Reply #2 - Aug 14th, 2023 at 7:04pm
 
Be buggared!  How many sacred birthing trees are there and how do they get that title?
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Reply #3 - Aug 14th, 2023 at 7:15pm
 
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Reply #4 - Aug 14th, 2023 at 9:07pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 14th, 2023 at 2:50pm:



Do you actually believe in and credit Aboriginal sorcery and superstition, cockwomble?



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Reply #5 - Aug 15th, 2023 at 5:12am
 
My first question would be to ask how old
this tree is estimated to be.  If it's less than
235 years old, then it's not classified as
"sacred".  If it predates 1788, then I'd classify
it as sacred.

The other thing of course is when exactly was
it declared sacred by the local Aborigines?

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Reply #6 - Aug 15th, 2023 at 8:02am
 
They ate babies soon after birth



“The natives to the south eat human flesh. It is said that they engage in regular human hunting parties for this purpose … It is even said that they roast and eat their own infants, if they succeed each other too quickly. Only last year a woman not far from here did it, and when reproved for so doing, by means of an interpreter (for they speak a different language), she was surprised at being found fault with, as she considered the roasting and eating of her own child as something quite natural.” (Rev. Louis Schulze, missionary, “The Aborigines of the Upper and Middle Finke River: Their Habits and Customs”, in Transactions of the Royal Society of South Australia, vol. 14, 1891.)


“Mr Willshire declares that infanticide is a very common crime among the natives, and that lubras [Aboriginal women] as a rule kill off their surplus offspring, two being considered a full family. A sable matron once owned to him that she had killed three of her five children immediately after birth, and remarked, ‘me bin keep em one boy one girl, no good keep em mob, him too much wantem tuckout’.” — Review of W.H. Willshire’s The Aborigines of Central Australia, in the South Australian Register, May 14, 1889.


“In parts of New South Wales such as Bathurst, Goulburn, the Lachlan or Macquarie, it was customary long ago for the first-born of every lubra to be eaten by the tribe, as part of a religious ceremony; and I recollect a blackfellow who had, in compliance with the custom, been thrown when an infant on the fire, but was rescued and brought up by some stock-keepers who happened accidentally to be passing at the time. The marks of the burns were distinctly visible on the man when I saw him, and his story was well known in the locality.” –– R. Brough Smith, The Aborigines of Victoria, Volume One, 1878.
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Reply #7 - Aug 15th, 2023 at 8:07am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 14th, 2023 at 7:04pm:
Be buggared!  How many sacred birthing trees are there and how do they get that title?



It is decided by the Voice team:

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Reply #9 - Aug 15th, 2023 at 3:16pm
 
Boris wrote on Aug 15th, 2023 at 8:02am:
They ate babies soon after birth



“The natives to the south eat human flesh. It is said that they engage in regular human hunting parties for this purpose … It is even said that they roast and eat their own infants, if they succeed each other too quickly. Only last year a woman not far from here did it, and when reproved for so doing, by means of an interpreter (for they speak a different language), she was surprised at being found fault with, as she considered the roasting and eating of her own child as something quite natural.” (Rev. Louis Schulze, missionary, “The Aborigines of the Upper and Middle Finke River: Their Habits and Customs”, in Transactions of the Royal Society of South Australia, vol. 14, 1891.)


“Mr Willshire declares that infanticide is a very common crime among the natives, and that lubras [Aboriginal women] as a rule kill off their surplus offspring, two being considered a full family. A sable matron once owned to him that she had killed three of her five children immediately after birth, and remarked, ‘me bin keep em one boy one girl, no good keep em mob, him too much wantem tuckout’.” — Review of W.H. Willshire’s The Aborigines of Central Australia, in the South Australian Register, May 14, 1889.


“In parts of New South Wales such as Bathurst, Goulburn, the Lachlan or Macquarie, it was customary long ago for the first-born of every lubra to be eaten by the tribe, as part of a religious ceremony; and I recollect a blackfellow who had, in compliance with the custom, been thrown when an infant on the fire, but was rescued and brought up by some stock-keepers who happened accidentally to be passing at the time. The marks of the burns were distinctly visible on the man when I saw him, and his story was well known in the locality.” –– R. Brough Smith, The Aborigines of Victoria, Volume One, 1878.

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Reply #10 - Aug 15th, 2023 at 3:25pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 14th, 2023 at 2:50pm:


Birthing tree sacred site= ancient superstition with no basis in reality.
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Reply #11 - Aug 15th, 2023 at 8:31pm
 
AusGeoff wrote on Aug 15th, 2023 at 5:12am:
My first question would be to ask how old
this tree is estimated to be.  If it's less than
235 years old, then it's not classified as
"sacred".  If it predates 1788, then I'd classify
it as sacred.

The other thing of course is when exactly was
it declared sacred by the local Aborigines?




Soooooooo wacist, OMG! OMG!!! Questioning, are you, pale faced racist oppressor, coloniser, DISPOSSESSOR???

Well, are you, punk??

Hate, hate hate, racist, racist, racist, self-sensor if you know what's good for you, disinformation spreading conspiracy theorist,  you!  And RACIST!   Tsk, tsk, tsk   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Love youse,
Bbbwian
Doktor of Divinity (mail order).
(Oh, yes, don't you know, racist.)

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Reply #12 - Aug 15th, 2023 at 8:37pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 15th, 2023 at 2:06pm:


... investigating police can find no solid leads to this act ..... however, questions are being raised in the youse of the legality of an Aboriginal corporation offering a reward ..... see more later ...............
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Reply #13 - Aug 15th, 2023 at 9:19pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 15th, 2023 at 3:25pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 14th, 2023 at 2:50pm:


Birthing tree sacred site= ancient superstition with no basis in reality.


Neither has any religion, Judaism, Buddhism, Christianity and Islam, for example...  Are you as equally critical of them?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #14 - Aug 15th, 2023 at 9:22pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 15th, 2023 at 9:19pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Aug 15th, 2023 at 3:25pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 14th, 2023 at 2:50pm:


Birthing tree sacred site= ancient superstition with no basis in reality.


Neither has any religion, Judaism, Buddhism, Christianity and Islam, for example...  Are you as equally critical of them?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Relevance to the thread YOU STARTED, cockwomble?

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