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Traditional owner calls for apology
Aug 16th, 2023 at 5:14pm
 
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #1 - Aug 16th, 2023 at 5:25pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 16th, 2023 at 5:14pm:



Councillor Betty McCleary attracted controversy last month when she criticised the expansion of the city's Acknowledgement of Country, describing it as "lip service" and suggesting the acknowledgement should be directed at "pure" people.

Garry Calgaret attended last night's council meeting, supported by fellow traditional owner Dawn Bennell and said the comments hurt Aboriginal people across WA's South West.

He told the ABC after the meeting, "I want an apology" from Councillor McCleary.

Mr Calgaret, who also has European ancestry (far more than any Aboriginal one) says, in his opinion, using the word "pure" is offensive because it suggests not all Indigenous people should be acknowledged.
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Councillor McCleary declined to comment.  Last month she said she should have chosen her words better and was referring to people "pure in soul and heart".

Councillor McCleary said she could not acknowledge "the murderers, the paedophiles or the domestic violence offenders of any culture".






Well then - where does one's European ancestry end and Aboriginality takes over?



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Reply #2 - Aug 16th, 2023 at 5:47pm
 
Frank wrote on Aug 16th, 2023 at 5:25pm:
Well then - where does one's European ancestry end and Aboriginality takes over?


When White Fellas stop describing a person as Indigenous, Soren.  Are you prepared to?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #3 - Aug 16th, 2023 at 5:54pm
 
That Wharte Fullah will be waiting a long time.... tell 'im to get stuffed.  and mean it!!  What's he gonna do?  Point the bone at you?  Go the full ape and wreck a few homes?  Bash a few people up?

Does anyone call you a Niger, Brian - given that you claim an Indigenous ancestor?  Funny thing - the old girl just read a book called 'The Australian Railwayman' and in one part of it, looking at a hideous meal prepared by the 'cook' - his Aboriginal offsider said that he himself was a Nword and even he wouldn't eat it...

I think a heap of you need to grow up and stop your city slicker whining  .....
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Reply #4 - Aug 16th, 2023 at 5:55pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 16th, 2023 at 5:14pm:


Brian should apologise to us for being an idiot.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #5 - Aug 16th, 2023 at 7:01pm
 
Is this kind of like a traditional owner like this Black Fullah? The one who told Jacinta Price off for being a hater of Aborigines etc... boy is a true Blood ....

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Reply #6 - Aug 19th, 2023 at 10:58am
 
Of course there is plenty of emphasis on the sufferings of Aboriginal Australians. Not all of which is inflicted by others.
But I often marvel at how much non-Aboriginal Australians have been expected to put up with in recent years. Not least the endless guilt-tripping and the apologies without end.
The Sea of Hands displays in which hundreds of thousands of Australian citizens sponsored and signed plastic hands in Aboriginal colours to sit on the lawn outside buildings such as Parliament House in Canberra. The creation of a National Sorry Day back in 1998 and the signing of “Sorry Books”. This all happened in the last century. Nevertheless, the apologies never stop coming.

It is now 15 years since Kevin Rudd as prime minister made his apology to the Indigenous peoples of Australia. Has any of the guilt been alleviated since then? Have the “sorrys” washed away any blame? It seems not. But then, how could they? After all, something that the Australian debate seems to have almost completely ignored is something I have tried to bring out a number of times. And it is this.

As a number of the most serious and profound ethicists of the last century have agreed, an apology can work only when it comes from someone who has done a wrong and is accepted by someone who has been wronged. If it comes from someone who has themselves done no wrong and goes to someone who has not actually been wronged, then the deal is a fraud. If such an apology is offered and accepted it is a fraud on both sides. Someone who has done no wrong is pretending to be speaking for the dead. And people who have suffered no direct wrong are pretending to be able to accept an apology on behalf of people they did not know.

This may seem a longwinded way to get to the core of more recent events. But it is important. Australia feels like it is stuck in an apology loop because it is. And the reason that it doesn’t seem to be getting the country anywhere is because it never could – however many cycles of this you want to go around for.

One thing that it does do is subdue the majority of Australians. As I have found when travelling the country, the typical Australian no longer seems to me to be that striding, sensible, happy-go-lucky figure of old. They seem – in my experience – to be guilt-ridden people, forever caveating their thoughts and self-conscious to an often excruciating degree.

Why? Because if you browbeat any group of people for long enough you will get that result. A cringing, creeping-through life person, who subdues their thoughts and distrusts their own speech and actions.


https://www.theaustralian.com.au/inquirer/sorry-but-can-we-all-please-move-on-fr...

Douglas Murray nails the apology industry.

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Re: Traditional owner calls for apology
Reply #7 - Aug 19th, 2023 at 11:20am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 16th, 2023 at 5:14pm:


Hang on! Nothing controversial was stated. 

Have you read the article Bwian?
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Reply #8 - Aug 20th, 2023 at 11:30am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 16th, 2023 at 5:14pm:



More whining BS from Bwyan.

Why are all the whining blackfellas white?
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Reply #9 - Sep 1st, 2023 at 12:22pm
 

Enough of the endless apologising, the virtue signalling chest beating about shame and sorry.


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Reply #10 - Sep 1st, 2023 at 2:11pm
 
Gnads wrote on Aug 20th, 2023 at 11:30am:
Brian Ross wrote on Aug 16th, 2023 at 5:14pm:



More whining BS from Bwyan.

Why are all the whining blackfellas white?


The true Blacks call them yella fellas... on consideration - all the aspirants to the lovely earner spots on 'the voice' are mixed bloods.... no wonder the hardcores are saying they don't represent them...  with all the petty tribal divisions throughout the land, no wonder so many are saying this voice doesn't represent them..

If one gets voted in here - the next group 20km away will take up the spear.... FFS ....   Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin
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