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Aug 18^th, 2023 at 3:27pm

The Voice would certainly demand these payments. Just listen to the most vocal YES campaigners, but Albanese is trying to weasel out of it.

Unlike most Aboriginals, I can document my ancestors for many generations in Europe, America, and here. They came to Australia in good faith and they did not kill Aboriginals. I categorically reject any suggestion that I have inherited anything from those who stole from Aboriginals, or killed them, or that I owe indigenous people anything that should be paid out of the public purse that people of many cultures and nations contribute to.

Let the YES voters have their wages garnisheed. Should the Vietnamese and Sudanese Australians be included, or be exempt because they are not white?

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Reply #1 - Aug 18^th, 2023 at 3:57pm

I offered a GofundMe page where those who want to donate to rent and reparations for the Aborigines could do so.

I think I'll go ahead with that and see how much comes in....

For those advocating this voice and all it entails.... you are welcome to donate all you like - I flatly refuse to for the same reasons as laid out below, and a lot more.

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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Australian Legend Posts: 24004 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: Rent and Repartions Reply #2 - Aug 18^th, 2023 at 4:28pm issuevoter wrote on Aug 18^th, 2023 at 3:27pm: Let the YES voters have their wages garnisheed. Many of the "yes" voters will be aboriginal. So, they will just exempt themselves from paying.
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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20446 Gordon Gender:	Re: Rent and Reparations Reply #3 - Aug 18^th, 2023 at 4:44pm Rent and reparations will only prolong the cultural funk Aboriginals are in. Yes they need extra help, but that help should be only in the form of education which pays off in multiples of what is spent.
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Re: Rent and Repartions
Reply #4 - Aug 18^th, 2023 at 5:04pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Aug 18^th, 2023 at 4:28pm:

issuevoter wrote on Aug 18^th, 2023 at 3:27pm:

Let the YES voters have their wages garnisheed.

Many of the "yes" voters will be aboriginal. So, they will just exempt themselves from paying.

Well - Albo sure won't be offering a percentage - a tithe - of his incomes.... unlike you scum - he's EARNED all that!! You bludgers, stinking mortgage owners and common workers, can just pay and love it.... none of you will feel the pain of $100 lifted from you every week to pay for bludging nationwide.

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 82792 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Rent and Reparations Reply #5 - Aug 18^th, 2023 at 5:05pm Gordon wrote on Aug 18^th, 2023 at 4:44pm: Rent and reparations will only prolong the cultural funk Aboriginals are in. Yes they need extra help, but that help should be only in the form of education which pays off in multiples of what is spent. Is no education - is no funding...... Australian Rules...
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Re: Rent and Reparations
Reply #6 - Aug 18^th, 2023 at 5:13pm

What absolute moron on this Planet thinks that individuals are ever going to be paid a red cent because of 1788?

What absolute moron on this Planet thinks that a group of individuals are ever going to be paid a red cent because of 1788?

Sure, better funding of programmed seeking to bridge the gap will occur, but there will never ever be reparations.

Lidia Thorpe is kidding herself and anyone who is dumb enough to believe her (seems that includes Grappler and Gordon.) She et al have a right or entitlement to sweet fu

ck

all and whatever is spent on those programmes will be spent because it is the right thing to do, not because of anything else.

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issuevoter Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9200 The Great State of Mind Gender:	Re: Rent and Reparations Reply #7 - Aug 18^th, 2023 at 5:22pm As I have said elsewhere, the Voice is about money, as stupid as that may sound to some.
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Re: Rent and Reparations
Reply #8 - Aug 18^th, 2023 at 5:50pm

Aussie wrote on Aug 18^th, 2023 at 5:13pm:

What absolute moron on this Planet thinks that individuals are ever going to be paid a red cent because of 1788?

What absolute moron on this Planet thinks that a group of individuals are ever going to be paid a red cent because of 1788?

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: Rent and Reparations
Reply #9 - Aug 18^th, 2023 at 5:57pm

Aussie wrote on Aug 18^th, 2023 at 5:13pm:

What absolute moron on this Planet thinks that individuals are ever going to be paid a red cent because of 1788?

What absolute moron on this Planet thinks that a group of individuals are ever going to be paid a red cent because of 1788?

Sure, better funding of programmed seeking to bridge the gap will occur, but there will never ever be reparations.

Lidia Thorpe is kidding herself and anyone who is dumb enough to believe her (seems that includes Grappler and Gordon.) She et al have a right or entitlement to sweet fu

ck

all and whatever is spent on those programmes will be spent because it is the right thing to do, not because of anything else.

Land councils - who gets the money they are paid?

Royalties divide Yunupingu family
Jennifer Sexton
11jun05

GALARRWUY Yunupingu, the Northern Territory's most powerful black leader, is at the centre of a deep family rift over millions of dollars in mining royalties.

Many of his own clan, in their remote coastal homelands 600km east of Darwin, live in squalid and impoverished conditions while Mr Yunupingu has the use of a helicopter, four houses and a fleet of cars, including a Range Rover.
His fourth son, Sammy Yunupingu, sister Gayili Marika (nee Yunupingu) and cousin Dhanjah Gurruwiwi say that only some members have benefited from Mr Yunupingu's distribution of up to $5million a year in royalties, grants and rents.

Audit reports obtained by The Weekend Australian have, for the past four years, warned that there is no evidence to prove that "clan distributions" have been properly allocated through the Gumatj Association, which receives royalties and other funds and is chaired by Mr Yunupingu.

While the Northern Territory Justice Department, which administers the Gumatj Association, has failed to act, the Howard Government launched an investigation last week.

Traditional Arnhem Land owners say that they are missing out because the money is supposed to be shared.
http://www.kooriweb.org/foley/news/2000s/2005/woz11jun05b.html

Galarrwuy Yunupingu: Lord of the Manor
8th August 2023
https://quadrant.org.au/magazine/2023/08-online/galarrwuy-yunupingu-lord-of-the-...

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Re: Rent and Reparations
Reply #10 - Aug 18^th, 2023 at 7:02pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2023 at 5:50pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 18^th, 2023 at 5:13pm:

What absolute moron on this Planet thinks that individuals are ever going to be paid a red cent because of 1788?

What absolute moron on this Planet thinks that a group of individuals are ever going to be paid a red cent because of 1788?

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The price of liberty is eternal vigilance - by calling out these things in advance - and they are clearly stated in the 'Uluru Declaration' - you warn them that it is not on and they do a smith and Aussie and back down like mongrel dingoes on Fraser Island.

"The Dialogues discussed who would be the parties to Treaty, as well as the process, content
and enforcement questions that pursuing Treaty raises. In relation to process, these questions
included whether a Treaty should be negotiated first as a national framework agreement under
which regional and local treaties are made. In relation to content, the Dialogues discussed that
a Treaty could include a proper say in decision-making, the establishment of a truth
commission, reparations, a financial settlement (such as seeking a percentage of GDP), the
resolution of land, water and resources issues, recognition of authority and customary law, and
guarantees of respect for the rights of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples."

page 105 - scary, isn't it? First it was Albo's mythical 1..... then it was only 26 ........ now it's 112 .... this starts at page 87... page 87... page 87.... 112 - 86 = 26 .... where are the missing 86... 86 .....86 pages?

WHERE ARE THE MISSING 86 PAGES OF THE ULURU STATEMENT?

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Re: Rent and Reparations
Reply #11 - Aug 18^th, 2023 at 7:07pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 18^th, 2023 at 7:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 18^th, 2023 at 5:50pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 18^th, 2023 at 5:13pm:

What absolute moron on this Planet thinks that individuals are ever going to be paid a red cent because of 1788?

What absolute moron on this Planet thinks that a group of individuals are ever going to be paid a red cent because of 1788?

Issuevoter
Crappler
Turdie
Unsub
Sorend
need i go on?

The price of liberty is eternal vigilance - by calling out these things in advance - and they are clearly stated in the 'Uluru Declaration' - you warn them that it is not on and they do a smith and Aussie and back down like mongrel dingoes on Fraser Island.

"The Dialogues discussed who would be the parties to Treaty, as well as the process, content
and enforcement questions that pursuing Treaty raises. In relation to process, these questions
included whether a Treaty should be negotiated first as a national framework agreement under
which regional and local treaties are made. In relation to content, the Dialogues discussed that
a Treaty could include a proper say in decision-making, the establishment of a truth
commission, reparations, a financial settlement (such as seeking a percentage of GDP), the
resolution of land, water and resources issues, recognition of authority and customary law, and
guarantees of respect for the rights of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples."

page 105 - scary, isn't it? First it was Albo's mythical 1..... then it was only 26 ........ now it's 112 .... this starts at page 87... page 87... page 87.... 112 - 86 = 26 .... where are the missing 86... 86 .....86 pages?

WHERE ARE THE MISSING 86 PAGES OF THE ULURU STATEMENT?

Kite flying aspirational wish list log book claim garbage.

But, you keep hamming it up to mislead, Grappler. Don't let me stop you scaring the children with the black boogieman around here.

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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20446 Gordon Gender:	Re: Rent and Reparations Reply #12 - Aug 18^th, 2023 at 7:10pm The Oils even wrote a song about it. The time has come to say fair's fair To pay the rent, to pay our share The time has come, a fact's a fact It belongs to them, let's give it back
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38423 Gender:	Re: Rent and Reparations Reply #13 - Aug 18^th, 2023 at 7:11pm Gordon wrote on Aug 18^th, 2023 at 7:10pm: The Oils even wrote a song about it. The time has come to say fair's fair To pay the rent, to pay our share The time has come, a fact's a fact It belongs to them, let's give it back And so......fu cki ng....what?
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Reply #14 - Aug 18^th, 2023 at 7:48pm

Aussie wrote on Aug 18^th, 2023 at 7:11pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 18^th, 2023 at 7:10pm:

The Oils even wrote a song about it.

The time has come to say fair's fair
To pay the rent, to pay our share
The time has come, a fact's a fact
It belongs to them, let's give it back

And so......fu

cki

ng....what?

How can you sleep while the beds are burning?

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