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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 29268 Gender:	Re: Rent and Reparations Reply #60 - Aug 20^th, 2023 at 3:25pm Bobby. wrote on Aug 20^th, 2023 at 12:05pm: 53:10 Lidia would even like money for the Victorian parliament because it was made out of sandstone stolen from Abbos. Yes ... they were right into masonry.
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Re: Rent and Reparations
Reply #61 - Aug 20^th, 2023 at 3:28pm

Aussie wrote on Aug 20^th, 2023 at 2:16pm:

Frank wrote on Aug 20^th, 2023 at 12:55pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 20^th, 2023 at 12:07pm:

Gnads wrote on Aug 20^th, 2023 at 11:31am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 20^th, 2023 at 11:29am:

Lydia,
there is a lot of money owed to first peoples ....
we don't want to send the country broke -
otherwise we could with what is owed.

jump to 53:10

You can't listen to any of her BS surely? Roll Eyes

The misrepresenters do and bung up her drivel as though it is what is going to happen.

Well, what IS going to happen??

If the Referendum succeeds, there will be a bunch of black fellas sitting in a corner of Parliament House sending smoke signals into the sky...and maybe better targetted programmes to bridge the gap.

That is what you are so scared of Frank.

Grow some balls and stop the lying bullshit.

There's the BS right there.

How are they going to better target anything to bridge the gap? What will make them any better or more expert than those who went before?

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Re: Rent and Reparations
Reply #62 - Aug 20^th, 2023 at 3:29pm

Gnads wrote on Aug 20^th, 2023 at 3:25pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 20^th, 2023 at 12:05pm:

53:10
Lidia would even like money for the Victorian parliament
because it was made out of sandstone stolen from Abbos. Roll Eyes

Yes ... they were right into masonry. Roll Eyes

Stone palaces, you know... Pascoe saw them in his mind's eye upon a midnight drear while on the turps or something.... hitting those magic mushrooms....

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Re: Rent and Reparations
Reply #63 - Aug 20^th, 2023 at 4:13pm

Gnads wrote on Aug 20^th, 2023 at 3:28pm:

There's the BS right there.

How are they going to better target anything to bridge the gap? What will make them any better or more expert than those who went before?

Well - it will certainly close the gaps between their first couple of million and their expectations, this sitting on the board.... salaries and perks commensurate with those of politicians.... but they're not politicians are they? Non-elected... so they should be there on a voluntary basis and receive a pittance as costs.

Bet they're angling for cash in the measure of the 'senior executive service' though... much more lucrative than that of a mere MP....

Trickledown to their struggling people will take care of the rest..... of course it will....

Jesus, Albo has shown what an idiot and a fool he is..... egg all over his face already.... no wonder he's gone quiet.... quietly distancing himself from the entire thing.... little reminder below.... check page numbers... all the REAL discussion went before and is deleted from public scrutiny ...

https://www.skynews.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Document-14-1.pdf

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issuevoter Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9200 The Great State of Mind Gender:	Re: Rent and Reparations Reply #64 - Aug 20^th, 2023 at 5:05pm Another big lie rapped up in the referendum, is that Aboriginals actually need a special representation to present their requirement to parliament. The issues are very clear already. Dare I say it? "Always was, always will be."
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Re: Rent and Reparations
Reply #65 - Aug 20^th, 2023 at 5:10pm

Gnads wrote on Aug 20^th, 2023 at 3:28pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 20^th, 2023 at 2:16pm:

Frank wrote on Aug 20^th, 2023 at 12:55pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 20^th, 2023 at 12:07pm:

Gnads wrote on Aug 20^th, 2023 at 11:31am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 20^th, 2023 at 11:29am:

Lydia,
there is a lot of money owed to first peoples ....
we don't want to send the country broke -
otherwise we could with what is owed.

jump to 53:10

You can't listen to any of her BS surely? Roll Eyes

The misrepresenters do and bung up her drivel as though it is what is going to happen.

Well, what IS going to happen??

If the Referendum succeeds, there will be a bunch of black fellas sitting in a corner of Parliament House sending smoke signals into the sky...and maybe better targetted programmes to bridge the gap.

That is what you are so scared of Frank.

Grow some balls and stop the lying bullshit.

There's the BS right there.

How are they going to better target anything to bridge the gap? What will make them any better or more expert than those who went before?

Well, those that exist or went before were not chosen by their own Communities, but you'll ignore that answer as though it was never given.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 102881 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Rent and Reparations Reply #66 - Aug 20^th, 2023 at 5:19pm Can anyone even listen to her deluded nonsense for 1 hour and 15 minutes?
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Setanta Gold Member Offline \/ Peace man! Posts: 16470 Northern NSW Gender:	Re: Rent and Reparations Reply #67 - Aug 20^th, 2023 at 5:42pm Aussie wrote on Aug 20^th, 2023 at 5:10pm: Well, those that exist or went before were not chosen by their own Communities, but you'll ignore that answer as though it was never given. Can you show us the evidence that they will be this time? How do smoke signals make this happen Mummy?
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Reply #68 - Aug 20^th, 2023 at 6:34pm

Aussie wrote on Aug 19^th, 2023 at 8:53am:

issuevoter wrote on Aug 19^th, 2023 at 7:03am:

Lydia Thorpe was adressing the National Press Club, which has significant influence. They lapped it up.

I was watching it. If you have ever seen Press Club addresses, the room is usually crammed. This time it was visible bare.

I listened to the Blak Bitch and every time she openede her mouth, it was clear she was delusional.

Boil her point down and she has the expectation that Governments will have a separate Treaty with each Abo Tribe and each Abo tribe will be paid billions for reparations and also each Abo Tribe will be given sovereignty over what they say is their land.

Does one word of that sound even remotely like EVER happening?

If we allow it, it will. They are taking a bit at a time, whenever they are able to.

mothra wrote on Aug 19^th, 2023 at 8:58am:

There is no suggestion on further monetary input from the Voice.

Sure there is, on a regular basis, from the people who are promoting the voicing and position themselves to be at the centre of it.

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What there is is the potential for money that is currently being mismanaged actually being directed to areas of actual need.

You are so naive Mothra. What makes you think an unelected body that claims to represent a bunch of people based on nothing more than the colour of their skin is going to solve corruption, when it has corruption designed into it?

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Is she at risk of harming anyone?

She is a lunatic in a position of power. She is a danger to everyone.

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 83710 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Rent and Reparations Reply #69 - Aug 20^th, 2023 at 6:51pm There will be no voice, no treaties, no compensation, no reparations, and no more special treatment .... Albo has done Australia one huge favour with his insane move..... maybe not so insane after all, eh? He's no extraordinary man, with an extraordinary plan...
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 102881 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Rent and Reparations Reply #70 - Aug 20^th, 2023 at 6:59pm In Australia we're not racist:
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Re: Rent and Reparations
Reply #71 - Aug 20^th, 2023 at 7:44pm

Setanta wrote on Aug 20^th, 2023 at 5:42pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 20^th, 2023 at 5:10pm:

Well, those that exist or went before were not chosen by their own Communities, but you'll ignore that answer as though it was never given.

Can you show us the evidence that they will be this time? How do smoke signals make this happen Mummy?

Sure, read Dreyfus's speech in Parliament and read what Albanese has said a zillion times. The Voice Reps will be selected by local Abo Communities.

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38520 Gender:	Re: Rent and Reparations Reply #72 - Aug 20^th, 2023 at 7:46pm Quote: If we allow it, it will. They are taking a bit at a time, whenever they are able to. Correct, and Australia will never agree to either rent, reparations or sovereignty. At the moment, they are not being asked to. But, you will lie and say that is what they are being asked to allow.
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 83710 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Rent and Reparations Reply #73 - Aug 20^th, 2023 at 7:47pm Doesn't matter how they're selected - there is no right or privilege of inside running to governance in this country. If they want a lobby group, let them set one up.... but they already get plenty of representation in Cambra anyway....
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Re: Rent and Reparations
Reply #74 - Aug 20^th, 2023 at 7:52pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 20^th, 2023 at 7:47pm:

Doesn't matter how they're selected - there is no right or privilege of inside running to governance in this country.

If they want a lobby group, let them set one up.... but they already get plenty of representation in Cambra anyway....

Tell....umm....say.....Gina Rheihardt (sp), Twiggy Forrest et al.

The Abos in Parliament already are not there to be the voice of Abos.

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