Australian Politics Forum - Who IS Aboriginal, who IS indigenous

Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 44203 Gender:	Who IS Aboriginal, who IS indigenous Aug 18^th, 2023 at 6:41pm This question needs to be clarified so we all have a common, agreed understanding of it. We can't change the constitution without being clear about who is who - and who isn't.
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 83648 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Who IS Aboriginal, who IS indigenous Reply #1 - Aug 18^th, 2023 at 6:49pm I'm Indigenous - most are Indigenous - only Aborigines are Aborigines.... I'm staking out that high ground of Indigenous right here and now!! Indigenous Rights NOW!!
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Reply #2 - Aug 18^th, 2023 at 9:56pm

Frank wrote on Aug 18^th, 2023 at 6:41pm:

This question needs to be clarified so we all have a common, agreed understanding of it. We can't change the constitution without being clear about who is who - and who isn't.

Amazing how she has rewritten her personal history there. There was a time when she refused to have anything to do with Indigenous Australians. Of course, all her fans will ignore that inconvenience for their own sakes. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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issuevoter Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9200 The Great State of Mind Gender:	Re: Who IS Aboriginal, who IS indigenous Reply #3 - Aug 19^th, 2023 at 1:13am The most vocal are neither. They are disgruntled Creoles, Quatroons, and Mulattos conflicted about their origins. Oops! Not supposed to mention race except when it suits them.
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Reply #4 - Aug 19^th, 2023 at 6:38am

issuevoter wrote on Aug 19^th, 2023 at 1:13am:

The most vocal are neither. They are disgruntled Creoles, Quatroons, and Mulattos conflicted about their origins. Oops! Not supposed to mention race except when it suits them.

Quadroons 25%, Octoroons.... 12.5% .... then there are those even lower.... your high-stepping yellas .... It is possible that one ancestor of mine was part Aborigine... would account for my olive skin, but DNA does not show that and histories of family do not. DNA says Swedish/Danish/Scottish/Irish/English/Cornish/Welsh and 10% Jews of Europe. Bloody vikings....

Pascoe-style - my grandmother used to call us little monsters 'black' when we played up... (heh, heh) .. I thought she meant we had black souls by her Victorian standards (she was born in 1894 - we are slow breeders) ... and her second son, a copper for life, was known in the force as 'The Black Fellah'... must be some Aborigine in us.... mek me a lend claim, bro!!

"The continent was occupied by our people and the footprints of our ancestors traversed the entire landscape.
Our songlines covered vast distances, uniting peoples in shared stories and religion. The entire
land and seascape is named, and the cultural memory of our old people is written there."

Been that way since 1788 ....... just saying here..... all of us born here are Indigenous - Aborigines are Aboriginal Indigenous... nothing special about them.... just figures in a landscape....

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Reply #5 - Aug 19^th, 2023 at 12:27pm

The subtext of racially defined special assistance schemes, employment targets, academic scholarships and the like is this: if you ate Aboriginal you must be damaged, and if you are damaged it must be because you are a victim. There must be something inherently missing or defective in your being , simply because of you ancestry and your people's history. That is why you are singled out for exceptional treatment. You actual, personal abilities or disabilities do nit define you.
Will anyone be surprised if the Oxford Aboriginal scholars are recruited from those with backgrounds with the least or even no demonstrable disadvantage, those who least need a leg-up but who will be told by the subtext here that they are inherently, racially flawed? I doubt it. But at least some in charge will feel good about themselves.
How have we come to such a vile pass?
Peter Sutton, Politics of Suffereing, p. 204

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Reply #6 - Aug 19^th, 2023 at 12:29pm

The subtext of racially defined special assistance schemes, employment targets, academic scholarships and the like is this: if you ate Aboriginal you must be damaged, and if you are damaged it must be because you are a victim. There must be something inherently missing or defective in your being , simply because of you ancestry and your people's history. That is why you are singled out for exceptional treatment. You actual, personal abilities or disabilities do nit define you.
Will anyone be surprised if the Oxford Aboriginal scholars are recruited from those with backgrounds with the least or even no demonstrable disadvantage, those who least need a leg-up but who will be told by the subtext here that they are inherently, racially flawed? I doubt it. But at least some in charge will feel good about themselves.
How have we come to such a vile pass?
Peter Sutton, Politics of Suffereing, p. 204

Record number of Indigenous doctors graduate from UNSW
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15 December 2014

https://newsevents.med.unsw.edu.au/news/record-number-indigenous-doctors-graduat...

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 83648 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Who IS Aboriginal, who IS indigenous Reply #7 - Aug 19^th, 2023 at 1:11pm Ten percenters? High-stepping yellas? One could pass for Aboriginal. You see two problems with affirmative action there - more women and only a teaspoon of black. No wonder the west is in decline....
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58039 Here Gender:	Re: Who IS Aboriginal, who IS indigenous Reply #8 - Aug 19^th, 2023 at 1:26pm Who is white, who is caucasian ?
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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 44203 Gender:	Re: Who IS Aboriginal, who IS indigenous Reply #9 - Aug 19^th, 2023 at 1:42pm Dnarever wrote on Aug 19^th, 2023 at 1:26pm: Who is white, who is caucasian ? These guys
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Reply #10 - Aug 19^th, 2023 at 2:30pm

Frank wrote on Aug 19^th, 2023 at 1:42pm:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 19^th, 2023 at 1:26pm:

Who is white, who is caucasian ?

These guys
https://newsevents.med.unsw.edu.au/sites/default/files/styles/news_large/public/...

we know they're not white because you aren't fawning over them,

it's only white people you defend

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #11 - Aug 19^th, 2023 at 3:04pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 19^th, 2023 at 2:30pm:

Frank wrote on Aug 19^th, 2023 at 1:42pm:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 19^th, 2023 at 1:26pm:

Who is white, who is caucasian ?

These guys
https://newsevents.med.unsw.edu.au/sites/default/files/styles/news_large/public/...

we know they're not white because you aren't fawning over them,

it's only white people you defend

Oh?? So now I decide who IS Aboriginal??

Gawd, you are worse than a moron with concussion.

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Re: Who IS Aboriginal, who IS indigenous
Reply #12 - Aug 19^th, 2023 at 3:43pm

Frank wrote on Aug 19^th, 2023 at 3:04pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 19^th, 2023 at 2:30pm:

Frank wrote on Aug 19^th, 2023 at 1:42pm:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 19^th, 2023 at 1:26pm:

Who is white, who is caucasian ?

These guys
https://newsevents.med.unsw.edu.au/sites/default/files/styles/news_large/public/...

we know they're not white because you aren't fawning over them,

it's only white people you defend

Oh?? So now I decide who IS Aboriginal??

Gawd, you are worse than a moron with concussion.

I said we know they're not white, I didn't say you get to decide anything. Not the same thing ya dumbarse

seriously, ask for that refund.

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: Who IS Aboriginal, who IS indigenous
Reply #13 - Aug 19^th, 2023 at 4:16pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 19^th, 2023 at 3:43pm:

Frank wrote on Aug 19^th, 2023 at 3:04pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 19^th, 2023 at 2:30pm:

Frank wrote on Aug 19^th, 2023 at 1:42pm:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 19^th, 2023 at 1:26pm:

Who is white, who is caucasian ?

These guys
https://newsevents.med.unsw.edu.au/sites/default/files/styles/news_large/public/...

we know they're not white because you aren't fawning over them,

it's only white people you defend

Oh?? So now I decide who IS Aboriginal??

Gawd, you are worse than a moron with concussion.

I said we know they're not white, I didn't say you get to decide anything. Not the same thing ya dumbarse

seriously, ask for that refund.

Frank .... can you now see why Frodo has NO IQ?? Yes he really is unbelievably dumb and clueless which explains why he doesn’t understand anything typed at him 😂🤣😆

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Re: Who IS Aboriginal, who IS indigenous
Reply #14 - Aug 19^th, 2023 at 4:38pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 19^th, 2023 at 3:43pm:

Frank wrote on Aug 19^th, 2023 at 3:04pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 19^th, 2023 at 2:30pm:

Frank wrote on Aug 19^th, 2023 at 1:42pm:

Dnarever wrote on Aug 19^th, 2023 at 1:26pm:

Who is white, who is caucasian ?

These guys
https://newsevents.med.unsw.edu.au/sites/default/files/styles/news_large/public/...

we know they're not white because you aren't fawning over them,

it's only white people you defend

Oh?? So now I decide who IS Aboriginal??

Gawd, you are worse than a moron with concussion.

I said we know they're not white, I didn't say you get to decide anything. Not the same thing ya dumbarse

seriously, ask for that refund.

Well, they are whiter than you, swarthy mouth-breather.

Not even I am as blonde as those two girls at the front.

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