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Re: Preschoolers forced to say sorry
Reply #135 - Aug 24^th, 2023 at 9:07am

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 9:03am:

freediver wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 9:00am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 8:33am:

They drew the hearts on them first and then the teachers wrote the text after the children handed them back.

How do you know this Greg?

How do you know they didn't?

He asked you first.

There was no mention in the article that teachers had pre-written the cards.

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Re: Preschoolers forced to say sorry
Reply #137 - Aug 24^th, 2023 at 9:08am

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 9:06am:

freediver wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 9:05am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 9:03am:

freediver wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 9:00am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 8:33am:

They drew the hearts on them first and then the teachers wrote the text after the children handed them back.

How do you know this Greg?

How do you know they didn't?

I'm not the one making the claim Greg. You are. Are you lying again?

Are you avoiding the question again?

No Greg. Do try to keep up. I am the one asking the question. I cannot answer it for you. I can only assume you are telling lies again, motivated by your racism.

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Re: Preschoolers forced to say sorry
Reply #138 - Aug 24^th, 2023 at 9:08am

Gnads wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 9:02am:

mothra wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 8:58am:

Gnads wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 8:57am:

John Smith wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 8:51am:

Gnads wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 8:50am:

Yet you're waffling on about the pictures on the article page.

Was I? Or is that the drugs kicking in again? Care to show me where I mentioned Michaela Cash?

I'm betting you run away now Grin

Run away from a window licker like you? Grin

I never said you mentioned Michaelia Cash .... but you were smuggly bantering about the pictures in the article i.e. the photo of the people holding the "just vote no" placards ... the photo of Cash was beside it.

Again, that was me.

RUOK Gonads?

Yes Broom Hilda ... he was smuggly bantering with you ... & Peccar.

Care to back that up with a quote?

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Re: Preschoolers forced to say sorry
Reply #139 - Aug 24^th, 2023 at 9:11am

Frank wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2023 at 7:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2023 at 6:50pm:

Frank wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2023 at 6:49pm:

AusGeoff wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2023 at 6:44pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2023 at 3:38pm:

Expressing regret for something that happened years ago is not a guilt trip, you idiot.

To a limited extent, I agree Aussie.

But the point of this debate is primarily not
about that specifically, but about the age of
the pre-schoolers at 3-4 years, and the "right"
of their teachers to imply that they're all
responsible for the historic wrongs committed
against our Aboriginals, and the wrongs still
being committed today.

It's perfectly okay for thinking adults to express
their regrets/apologies etc, but not for little
children who're barely self-aware, let alone
aware of historical wrongs possibly committed
by their ancestors and/or family.

(BTW, you don't need personal
insults to make a point in any
debate. It only weakens your
argument.)

Apologising for what you have evidently not done makes you a fraud. Anyone accepting such an apology makes them a fraud, too.

Anyone making little children apologise for something they haven't done and do not understand is a monstrous****ing fraud and should not be let near any classroom.

Nobody is making little children do anything (unless you're referring to the allegations against Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein).

Those cards were not written by the preschoolers, revolting, gruesome stinking creep, they were written by the teacher THEN given to the kiddies who were told what the cards said and then told to colour it in with hearts and to feel sorry for what they did to poor little Sambo.

How do you know who wrote/drew on the cards first?

I'm curious.

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Re: Preschoolers forced to say sorry
Reply #140 - Aug 24^th, 2023 at 9:11am

mothra wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 8:57am:

Gnads wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 8:53am:

Yes I read it .... it was more than one family mentioned.

Really? Care to evidence that? I'm all eyes.

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Other 2GB listeners told O'Keefe their children had learned about the colonisation of Australia in school.
"My children attended a beautiful little preschool, both came home at different times saying they'd learned that 'white men came here and took away the Aboriginals' children'," a parent told O'Keefe.
"They chopped down all the trees and poisoned the waterways and then they asked me, 'Are all white men bad?'"

Even an Aboriginal Family..... Roll Eyes

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A First Nations family told O'Keefe their daughter was taught about the stolen generation in year one, before they could explain it to her.
"She had to learn it at a very young age because her great grandfather and grandmother were taken from their families which is a huge horrible concept to teach to her at any point," the family said to 2GB

So that's 3 different families speaking of their concerns.

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Re: Preschoolers forced to say sorry
Reply #141 - Aug 24^th, 2023 at 9:13am

Gnads wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 9:11am:

mothra wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 8:57am:

Gnads wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 8:53am:

Yes I read it .... it was more than one family mentioned.

Really? Care to evidence that? I'm all eyes.

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Other 2GB listeners told O'Keefe their children had learned about the colonisation of Australia in school.
"My children attended a beautiful little preschool, both came home at different times saying they'd learned that 'white men came here and took away the Aboriginals' children'," a parent told O'Keefe.
"They chopped down all the trees and poisoned the waterways and then they asked me, 'Are all white men bad?'"

Even an Aboriginal Family..... Roll Eyes

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A First Nations family told O'Keefe their daughter was taught about the stolen generation in year one, before they could explain it to her.
"She had to learn it at a very young age because her great grandfather and grandmother were taken from their families which is a huge horrible concept to teach to her at any point," the family said to 2GB

So that's 3 different families speaking of their concerns.

Anonymous 2GB listeners Grin

Well, I'm convinced.

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Re: Preschoolers forced to say sorry
Reply #142 - Aug 24^th, 2023 at 9:15am

Gnads wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 9:11am:

mothra wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 8:57am:

Gnads wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 8:53am:

Yes I read it .... it was more than one family mentioned.

Really? Care to evidence that? I'm all eyes.

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Other 2GB listeners told O'Keefe their children had learned about the colonisation of Australia in school.
"My children attended a beautiful little preschool, both came home at different times saying they'd learned that 'white men came here and took away the Aboriginals' children'," a parent told O'Keefe.
"They chopped down all the trees and poisoned the waterways and then they asked me, 'Are all white men bad?'"

Even an Aboriginal Family..... Roll Eyes

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A First Nations family told O'Keefe their daughter was taught about the stolen generation in year one, before they could explain it to her.
"She had to learn it at a very young age because her great grandfather and grandmother were taken from their families which is a huge horrible concept to teach to her at any point," the family said to 2GB

So that's 3 different families speaking of their concerns.

Yes Gonads. About separate incidents.

All unquoted, mind you.

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Re: Preschoolers forced to say sorry
Reply #143 - Aug 24^th, 2023 at 9:15am

mothra wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 8:40am:

Gnads wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 8:35am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 8:30am:

Gnads wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 6:47am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2023 at 7:45pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2023 at 7:41pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2023 at 7:38pm:

These are toddlers who need help going to the toilet and who probably still wear Huggies pull up nappies. They’re vulnerable and innocent and naive. Yet here they are ... saying sorry for something they never did AND can’t possibly understand.

When did they say sorry?

And where is your proof?

Calm down for a minute and look at this click-bait story objectively.

Where is the evidence that any child was forced to do or say anything?

Over to you ...

Waiting ...

Looks pretty much like the card starts with the word "Sorry" to me.

The cards were blank pieces of paper when given to the children.

They drew the hearts on them first and then the teachers wrote the text after the children handed them back.

Again, the thread title is a complete & utter lie and the "news" article is nothing more than click-bait for morons.

For what purpose? It was a planned lesson.

Who was the teacher writing the apology to?

Who were the target audience?

I know who the morons are downplaying this indoctrination.

Meanwhile you lot are all busy telling your kids that Jesus died for their sins.

I'm sorry that Sorry Day triggers you, Gonads. But it's part of the national fabric now and you're just going to have to have to adjust.

I worry about your blood pressure.

I'm not religious Broom Hilda.

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Re: Preschoolers forced to say sorry
Reply #144 - Aug 24^th, 2023 at 9:16am

mothra wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 9:15am:

Gnads wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 9:11am:

mothra wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 8:57am:

Gnads wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 8:53am:

Yes I read it .... it was more than one family mentioned.

Really? Care to evidence that? I'm all eyes.

Quote:

Other 2GB listeners told O'Keefe their children had learned about the colonisation of Australia in school.
"My children attended a beautiful little preschool, both came home at different times saying they'd learned that 'white men came here and took away the Aboriginals' children'," a parent told O'Keefe.
"They chopped down all the trees and poisoned the waterways and then they asked me, 'Are all white men bad?'"

Even an Aboriginal Family..... Roll Eyes

Quote:

A First Nations family told O'Keefe their daughter was taught about the stolen generation in year one, before they could explain it to her.
"She had to learn it at a very young age because her great grandfather and grandmother were taken from their families which is a huge horrible concept to teach to her at any point," the family said to 2GB

So that's 3 different families speaking of their concerns.

Yes Gonads. About separate incidents.

All unquoted, mind you.

So you want names & addresses? Grin

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Re: Preschoolers forced to say sorry
Reply #145 - Aug 24^th, 2023 at 9:17am

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 9:13am:

Gnads wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 9:11am:

mothra wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 8:57am:

Gnads wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 8:53am:

Yes I read it .... it was more than one family mentioned.

Really? Care to evidence that? I'm all eyes.

Quote:

Other 2GB listeners told O'Keefe their children had learned about the colonisation of Australia in school.
"My children attended a beautiful little preschool, both came home at different times saying they'd learned that 'white men came here and took away the Aboriginals' children'," a parent told O'Keefe.
"They chopped down all the trees and poisoned the waterways and then they asked me, 'Are all white men bad?'"

Even an Aboriginal Family..... Roll Eyes

Quote:

A First Nations family told O'Keefe their daughter was taught about the stolen generation in year one, before they could explain it to her.
"She had to learn it at a very young age because her great grandfather and grandmother were taken from their families which is a huge horrible concept to teach to her at any point," the family said to 2GB

So that's 3 different families speaking of their concerns.

Anonymous 2GB listeners Grin

Well, I'm convinced.

Speaking about separate incidents.

There is no suggestion that any of the parents at the preschool involved has any problem with their kids drawing hearts and learning about Sorry Day.

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Re: Preschoolers forced to say sorry
Reply #146 - Aug 24^th, 2023 at 9:18am

Gnads wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 9:16am:

mothra wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 9:15am:

Gnads wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 9:11am:

mothra wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 8:57am:

Gnads wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 8:53am:

Yes I read it .... it was more than one family mentioned.

Really? Care to evidence that? I'm all eyes.

Quote:

Other 2GB listeners told O'Keefe their children had learned about the colonisation of Australia in school.
"My children attended a beautiful little preschool, both came home at different times saying they'd learned that 'white men came here and took away the Aboriginals' children'," a parent told O'Keefe.
"They chopped down all the trees and poisoned the waterways and then they asked me, 'Are all white men bad?'"

Even an Aboriginal Family..... Roll Eyes

Quote:

A First Nations family told O'Keefe their daughter was taught about the stolen generation in year one, before they could explain it to her.
"She had to learn it at a very young age because her great grandfather and grandmother were taken from their families which is a huge horrible concept to teach to her at any point," the family said to 2GB

So that's 3 different families speaking of their concerns.

Yes Gonads. About separate incidents.

All unquoted, mind you.

So you want names & addresses? Grin

How do you get that from "quote"?

Is that how diseased your mind is?

Who do you want aa registrar on? Fleadriver wants arm tattoos for people deemed Indigenous enough, what do you want?

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Re: Preschoolers forced to say sorry
Reply #147 - Aug 24^th, 2023 at 9:18am

mothra wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 9:17am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 9:13am:

Gnads wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 9:11am:

mothra wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 8:57am:

Gnads wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 8:53am:

Yes I read it .... it was more than one family mentioned.

Really? Care to evidence that? I'm all eyes.

Quote:

Other 2GB listeners told O'Keefe their children had learned about the colonisation of Australia in school.
"My children attended a beautiful little preschool, both came home at different times saying they'd learned that 'white men came here and took away the Aboriginals' children'," a parent told O'Keefe.
"They chopped down all the trees and poisoned the waterways and then they asked me, 'Are all white men bad?'"

Even an Aboriginal Family..... Roll Eyes

Quote:

A First Nations family told O'Keefe their daughter was taught about the stolen generation in year one, before they could explain it to her.
"She had to learn it at a very young age because her great grandfather and grandmother were taken from their families which is a huge horrible concept to teach to her at any point," the family said to 2GB

So that's 3 different families speaking of their concerns.

Anonymous 2GB listeners Grin

Well, I'm convinced.

Speaking about separate incidents.

There is no suggestion that any of the parents at the preschool involved has any problem with their kids drawing hearts and learning about Sorry Day.

It's not about drawing hearts Roll Eyes

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Re: Preschoolers forced to say sorry
Reply #148 - Aug 24^th, 2023 at 9:20am

mothra wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 9:18am:

Gnads wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 9:16am:

mothra wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 9:15am:

Gnads wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 9:11am:

mothra wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 8:57am:

Gnads wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 8:53am:

Yes I read it .... it was more than one family mentioned.

Really? Care to evidence that? I'm all eyes.

Quote:

Other 2GB listeners told O'Keefe their children had learned about the colonisation of Australia in school.
"My children attended a beautiful little preschool, both came home at different times saying they'd learned that 'white men came here and took away the Aboriginals' children'," a parent told O'Keefe.
"They chopped down all the trees and poisoned the waterways and then they asked me, 'Are all white men bad?'"

Even an Aboriginal Family..... Roll Eyes

Quote:

A First Nations family told O'Keefe their daughter was taught about the stolen generation in year one, before they could explain it to her.
"She had to learn it at a very young age because her great grandfather and grandmother were taken from their families which is a huge horrible concept to teach to her at any point," the family said to 2GB

So that's 3 different families speaking of their concerns.

Yes Gonads. About separate incidents.

All unquoted, mind you.

So you want names & addresses? Grin

How do you get that from "quote"?

Is that how diseased your mind is?

Who do you want aa registrar on? Fleadriver wants arm tattoos for people deemed Indigenous enough, what do you want?

Quote the journalist you're whinging about you presumptuous bint.

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Re: Preschoolers forced to say sorry
Reply #149 - Aug 24^th, 2023 at 9:21am

Gnads wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 9:18am:

mothra wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 9:17am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 9:13am:

Gnads wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 9:11am:

mothra wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 8:57am:

Gnads wrote on Aug 24^th, 2023 at 8:53am:

Yes I read it .... it was more than one family mentioned.

Really? Care to evidence that? I'm all eyes.

Quote:

Other 2GB listeners told O'Keefe their children had learned about the colonisation of Australia in school.
"My children attended a beautiful little preschool, both came home at different times saying they'd learned that 'white men came here and took away the Aboriginals' children'," a parent told O'Keefe.
"They chopped down all the trees and poisoned the waterways and then they asked me, 'Are all white men bad?'"

Even an Aboriginal Family..... Roll Eyes

Quote:

A First Nations family told O'Keefe their daughter was taught about the stolen generation in year one, before they could explain it to her.
"She had to learn it at a very young age because her great grandfather and grandmother were taken from their families which is a huge horrible concept to teach to her at any point," the family said to 2GB

So that's 3 different families speaking of their concerns.

Anonymous 2GB listeners Grin

Well, I'm convinced.

Speaking about separate incidents.

There is no suggestion that any of the parents at the preschool involved has any problem with their kids drawing hearts and learning about Sorry Day.

It's not about drawing hearts Roll Eyes

Sure it is. That's all the kids did and probably all they will remember. If they are left with an imprint that Sorry Day is a day of national importance, then they are merely being educated into our modern social system.

All a bit lost on you, isn't it Gonads.

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