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Re: Preschoolers forced to say sorry
Reply #45 - Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:17pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:15pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 3:38pm:
Gnads wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 1:12pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 12:03pm:
Gordon wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 9:57pm:


Exaggerate like always.

Quote:
.... their children were asked to make "sorry" cards to First Nations people apologising for the actions of colonisers.


Nothing more than the formal apology endorsed by all , even Dutton, given by Rudd.

Get yer hands off it, you faux outraged wankers.


No comparison. Rudd & Co are adult politicians.

Hanging guilt trips on pre-schoolers is not the job of their teachers.

I hope you don't have children or grandkids if you agree with hanging that shyte on them.


Expressing regret for something that happened years ago is not a guilt trip, you idiot.


FMD AUSSIE ... THE TODDLERS WERE APOLOGISING FOR SOMETHING THEY NEVER DID AND CAN’T UNDERSTAND!

You missed the point entirely!


The kids didn't apologise for anything.

They drew a heart on a piece of paper.

Frank has already exposed Gordon's lie.

Frank: "Those cards were not written by the preschoolers, ..."
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Re: Preschoolers forced to say sorry
Reply #46 - Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:26pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:17pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:15pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 3:38pm:
Gnads wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 1:12pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 12:03pm:
Gordon wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 9:57pm:


Exaggerate like always.

Quote:
.... their children were asked to make "sorry" cards to First Nations people apologising for the actions of colonisers.


Nothing more than the formal apology endorsed by all , even Dutton, given by Rudd.

Get yer hands off it, you faux outraged wankers.


No comparison. Rudd & Co are adult politicians.

Hanging guilt trips on pre-schoolers is not the job of their teachers.

I hope you don't have children or grandkids if you agree with hanging that shyte on them.


Expressing regret for something that happened years ago is not a guilt trip, you idiot.


FMD AUSSIE ... THE TODDLERS WERE APOLOGISING FOR SOMETHING THEY NEVER DID AND CAN’T UNDERSTAND!

You missed the point entirely!


The kids didn't apologise for anything.

They drew a heart on a piece of paper.

Frank has already exposed Gordon's lie.

Frank: "Those cards were not written by the preschoolers, ..."


Oh sigh ...

It matters not who (in that classroom) held the pencil and wrote those words during the lesson ... it was PART of the lesson which is THE POINT ffs and that lesson WAS forced onto toddlers who have done nothing wrong AND CAN’T understand what they were supposed to have done wrong.

FFS! We’re talking toddlers still using pull ups and/or still need help when going to the toilet. 😐



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Re: Preschoolers forced to say sorry
Reply #47 - Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:31pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:26pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:17pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:15pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 3:38pm:
Gnads wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 1:12pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 12:03pm:
Gordon wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 9:57pm:


Exaggerate like always.

Quote:
.... their children were asked to make "sorry" cards to First Nations people apologising for the actions of colonisers.


Nothing more than the formal apology endorsed by all , even Dutton, given by Rudd.

Get yer hands off it, you faux outraged wankers.


No comparison. Rudd & Co are adult politicians.

Hanging guilt trips on pre-schoolers is not the job of their teachers.

I hope you don't have children or grandkids if you agree with hanging that shyte on them.


Expressing regret for something that happened years ago is not a guilt trip, you idiot.


FMD AUSSIE ... THE TODDLERS WERE APOLOGISING FOR SOMETHING THEY NEVER DID AND CAN’T UNDERSTAND!

You missed the point entirely!


The kids didn't apologise for anything.

They drew a heart on a piece of paper.

Frank has already exposed Gordon's lie.

Frank: "Those cards were not written by the preschoolers, ..."


Oh sigh ...

It matters not who (in that classroom) held the pencil and wrote those words during the lesson ... it was PART of the lesson which is THE POINT ffs and that lesson WAS forced onto toddlers who have done nothing wrong AND CAN’T understand what they were supposed to have done wrong.

FFS! We’re talking toddlers still using pull ups and/or still need help when going to the toilet. 😐



What was forced onto them, exactly?

Do you have evidence to support anything you're saying?

As I said before, this is all a lie and Frank has confirmed it.

There is no evidence whatsoever that any children were forced to do anything.

You fell for Gordon's lie, and Channel 9's click-bait.



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Re: Preschoolers forced to say sorry
Reply #48 - Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:36pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:26pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:17pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:15pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 3:38pm:
Gnads wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 1:12pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 12:03pm:
Gordon wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 9:57pm:


Exaggerate like always.

Quote:
.... their children were asked to make "sorry" cards to First Nations people apologising for the actions of colonisers.


Nothing more than the formal apology endorsed by all , even Dutton, given by Rudd.

Get yer hands off it, you faux outraged wankers.


No comparison. Rudd & Co are adult politicians.

Hanging guilt trips on pre-schoolers is not the job of their teachers.

I hope you don't have children or grandkids if you agree with hanging that shyte on them.


Expressing regret for something that happened years ago is not a guilt trip, you idiot.


FMD AUSSIE ... THE TODDLERS WERE APOLOGISING FOR SOMETHING THEY NEVER DID AND CAN’T UNDERSTAND!

You missed the point entirely!


The kids didn't apologise for anything.

They drew a heart on a piece of paper.

Frank has already exposed Gordon's lie.

Frank: "Those cards were not written by the preschoolers, ..."


Oh sigh ...

It matters not who (in that classroom) held the pencil and wrote those words during the lesson ... it was PART of the lesson which is THE POINT ffs and that lesson WAS forced onto toddlers who have done nothing wrong AND CAN’T understand what they were supposed to have done wrong.

FFS! We’re talking toddlers still using pull ups and/or still need help when going to the toilet. 😐





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Re: Preschoolers forced to say sorry
Reply #49 - Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:38pm
 
Aussie don’t you dare run away from this BS which you’ve written.

Must I remind you that we’re not talking about criminals in the district court of NSW expressing regret/remorse so as to get a more lenient sentence.

These are toddlers who need help going to the toilet and who probably still wear Huggies pull up nappies. They’re vulnerable and innocent and naive. Yet here they are ... saying sorry for something they never did AND can’t possibly understand.


Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:15pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 3:38pm:
Gnads wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 1:12pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 12:03pm:
Gordon wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 9:57pm:


Exaggerate like always.

Quote:
.... their children were asked to make "sorry" cards to First Nations people apologising for the actions of colonisers.


Nothing more than the formal apology endorsed by all , even Dutton, given by Rudd.

Get yer hands off it, you faux outraged wankers.


No comparison. Rudd & Co are adult politicians.

Hanging guilt trips on pre-schoolers is not the job of their teachers.

I hope you don't have children or grandkids if you agree with hanging that shyte on them.


Expressing regret for something that happened years ago is not a guilt trip, you idiot.


FMD AUSSIE ... THE TODDLERS WERE APOLOGISING FOR SOMETHING THEY NEVER DID AND CAN’T UNDERSTAND!

That’s (emotional) child abuse!

And you missed that point entirely!

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Re: Preschoolers forced to say sorry
Reply #50 - Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:41pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:38pm:
These are toddlers who need help going to the toilet and who probably still wear Huggies pull up nappies. They’re vulnerable and innocent and naive. Yet here they are ... saying sorry for something they never did AND can’t possibly understand.



When did they say sorry?

And where is your proof?

Calm down for a minute and look at this click-bait story objectively.

Where is the evidence that any child was forced to do or say anything?

Over to you ...

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Re: Preschoolers forced to say sorry
Reply #51 - Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:43pm
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:36pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:26pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:17pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:15pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 3:38pm:
Gnads wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 1:12pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 12:03pm:
Gordon wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 9:57pm:


Exaggerate like always.

Quote:
.... their children were asked to make "sorry" cards to First Nations people apologising for the actions of colonisers.


Nothing more than the formal apology endorsed by all , even Dutton, given by Rudd.

Get yer hands off it, you faux outraged wankers.


No comparison. Rudd & Co are adult politicians.

Hanging guilt trips on pre-schoolers is not the job of their teachers.

I hope you don't have children or grandkids if you agree with hanging that shyte on them.


Expressing regret for something that happened years ago is not a guilt trip, you idiot.


FMD AUSSIE ... THE TODDLERS WERE APOLOGISING FOR SOMETHING THEY NEVER DID AND CAN’T UNDERSTAND!

You missed the point entirely!


The kids didn't apologise for anything.

They drew a heart on a piece of paper.

Frank has already exposed Gordon's lie.

Frank: "Those cards were not written by the preschoolers, ..."


Oh sigh ...

It matters not who (in that classroom) held the pencil and wrote those words during the lesson ... it was PART of the lesson which is THE POINT ffs and that lesson WAS forced onto toddlers who have done nothing wrong AND CAN’T understand what they were supposed to have done wrong.

FFS! We’re talking toddlers still using pull ups and/or still need help when going to the toilet. 😐





Did you ask your kids permission before you baptised them? Cheesy Cheesy


Could someone get this Frodo prick out of this topic?

Not only is Dumbarse Frodo incapable of understanding and grasping the main issues we’re discussing  ... he’s just spamming the topic with irrelevant/off topic concerns which affect SOME parents and their own offspring.
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Re: Preschoolers forced to say sorry
Reply #52 - Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:45pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:41pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:38pm:
These are toddlers who need help going to the toilet and who probably still wear Huggies pull up nappies. They’re vulnerable and innocent and naive. Yet here they are ... saying sorry for something they never did AND can’t possibly understand.



When did they say sorry?

And where is your proof?

Calm down for a minute and look at this click-bait story objectively.

Where is the evidence that any child was forced to do or say anything?

Over to you ...



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Reply #53 - Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:50pm
 
Greg

Could you do me a favour and place the pics in the OP back up? I’m of course assuming you CAN do this.

(I can’t do so as this iPhone is hit and miss with posting attachments on OzPol)

Here is the OP 👇

Gordon wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 9:57pm:

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Re: Preschoolers forced to say sorry
Reply #54 - Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:51pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:45pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:41pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:38pm:
These are toddlers who need help going to the toilet and who probably still wear Huggies pull up nappies. They’re vulnerable and innocent and naive. Yet here they are ... saying sorry for something they never did AND can’t possibly understand.



When did they say sorry?

And where is your proof?

Calm down for a minute and look at this click-bait story objectively.

Where is the evidence that any child was forced to do or say anything?

Over to you ...



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Is that a white flag I see?

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Re: Preschoolers forced to say sorry
Reply #55 - Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:54pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:14pm:
Frank wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:00pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 6:50pm:
Frank wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 6:49pm:
AusGeoff wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 6:44pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 3:38pm:
Expressing regret for something that happened years ago is not a guilt trip, you idiot.

To a limited extent, I agree Aussie.

But the point of this debate is primarily not
about that specifically, but about the age of
the pre-schoolers at 3-4 years, and the "right"
of their teachers to imply that they're all
responsible for the historic wrongs committed
against our Aboriginals, and the wrongs still
being committed today.

It's perfectly okay for thinking adults to express
their regrets/apologies etc, but not for little
children who're barely self-aware, let alone
aware of historical wrongs possibly committed
by their ancestors and/or family.

(BTW, you don't need personal
insults to make a point in any
debate.    It only weakens your
argument.)


Apologising for what you have evidently not done makes you a fraud. Anyone accepting such an apology makes them a fraud, too.

Anyone making little children apologise for something they haven't  done and do not understand is a monstrous****ing fraud and should not be let near any classroom.



Nobody is making little children do anything (unless you're referring to the allegations against Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein).



Those cards were not written by the preschoolers, ...



Ah.

So no preschoolers were forced to say sorry then.

It was all a lie.

Gordon: Frank has uncovered your lie.


Gawd you are stinking creep, repulsive turd.

They were made to apologise. The teacher supplied the WRITTEN words and the lesson plan and the 'learning outcomes' of apologising for what happened decades before they were born.

Your despicable, evil baseness is limitless, stinking Macedonian content farmer.


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Re: Preschoolers forced to say sorry
Reply #56 - Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:56pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:43pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:36pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:26pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:17pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:15pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 3:38pm:
Gnads wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 1:12pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 12:03pm:
Gordon wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 9:57pm:


Exaggerate like always.

Quote:
.... their children were asked to make "sorry" cards to First Nations people apologising for the actions of colonisers.


Nothing more than the formal apology endorsed by all , even Dutton, given by Rudd.

Get yer hands off it, you faux outraged wankers.


No comparison. Rudd & Co are adult politicians.

Hanging guilt trips on pre-schoolers is not the job of their teachers.

I hope you don't have children or grandkids if you agree with hanging that shyte on them.


Expressing regret for something that happened years ago is not a guilt trip, you idiot.


FMD AUSSIE ... THE TODDLERS WERE APOLOGISING FOR SOMETHING THEY NEVER DID AND CAN’T UNDERSTAND!

You missed the point entirely!


The kids didn't apologise for anything.

They drew a heart on a piece of paper.

Frank has already exposed Gordon's lie.

Frank: "Those cards were not written by the preschoolers, ..."


Oh sigh ...

It matters not who (in that classroom) held the pencil and wrote those words during the lesson ... it was PART of the lesson which is THE POINT ffs and that lesson WAS forced onto toddlers who have done nothing wrong AND CAN’T understand what they were supposed to have done wrong.

FFS! We’re talking toddlers still using pull ups and/or still need help when going to the toilet. 😐





Did you ask your kids permission before you baptised them? Cheesy Cheesy


Could someone get this Frodo prick out of this topic?

Not only is Dumbarse Frodo incapable of understanding and grasping the main issues we’re discussing  ... he’s just spamming the topic with irrelevant/off topic concerns which affect SOME parents and their own offspring.



So you sought forgiveness for them for original sin they had nothing to do with? How dare you put such a guilt trip on them, they were still in nappies ffs.


Cheesy
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Re: Preschoolers forced to say sorry
Reply #57 - Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:56pm
 
Frank wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:54pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:14pm:
Frank wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:00pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 6:50pm:
Frank wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 6:49pm:
AusGeoff wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 6:44pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 3:38pm:
Expressing regret for something that happened years ago is not a guilt trip, you idiot.

To a limited extent, I agree Aussie.

But the point of this debate is primarily not
about that specifically, but about the age of
the pre-schoolers at 3-4 years, and the "right"
of their teachers to imply that they're all
responsible for the historic wrongs committed
against our Aboriginals, and the wrongs still
being committed today.

It's perfectly okay for thinking adults to express
their regrets/apologies etc, but not for little
children who're barely self-aware, let alone
aware of historical wrongs possibly committed
by their ancestors and/or family.

(BTW, you don't need personal
insults to make a point in any
debate.    It only weakens your
argument.)


Apologising for what you have evidently not done makes you a fraud. Anyone accepting such an apology makes them a fraud, too.

Anyone making little children apologise for something they haven't  done and do not understand is a monstrous****ing fraud and should not be let near any classroom.



Nobody is making little children do anything (unless you're referring to the allegations against Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein).



Those cards were not written by the preschoolers, ...



Ah.

So no preschoolers were forced to say sorry then.

It was all a lie.

Gordon: Frank has uncovered your lie.



They were made to apologise.



So you say, yet nobody can provide any proof of this.

Shall I bundle up your white flag with the one Lisa has just handed me?

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Re: Preschoolers forced to say sorry
Reply #58 - Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:56pm
 
Where’s Aussie??


Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:38pm:
Aussie don’t you dare run away from this BS which you’ve written.

Must I remind you that we’re not talking about criminals in the district court of NSW expressing regret/remorse so as to get a more lenient sentence.

These are toddlers who need help going to the toilet and who probably still wear Huggies pull up nappies. They’re vulnerable and innocent and naive. Yet here they are ... saying sorry for something they never did AND can’t possibly understand.


Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 7:15pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 3:38pm:
Gnads wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 1:12pm:
Aussie wrote on Aug 23rd, 2023 at 12:03pm:
Gordon wrote on Aug 22nd, 2023 at 9:57pm:


Exaggerate like always.

Quote:
.... their children were asked to make "sorry" cards to First Nations people apologising for the actions of colonisers.


Nothing more than the formal apology endorsed by all , even Dutton, given by Rudd.

Get yer hands off it, you faux outraged wankers.


No comparison. Rudd & Co are adult politicians.

Hanging guilt trips on pre-schoolers is not the job of their teachers.

I hope you don't have children or grandkids if you agree with hanging that shyte on them.


Expressing regret for something that happened years ago is not a guilt trip, you idiot.


FMD AUSSIE ... THE TODDLERS WERE APOLOGISING FOR SOMETHING THEY NEVER DID AND CAN’T UNDERSTAND!

That’s (emotional) child abuse!

And you missed that point entirely!


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Re: Preschoolers forced to say sorry
Reply #59 - Aug 23rd, 2023 at 8:00pm
 
If you read the article, the very first lines state:

"Families of preschool students say they are outraged after their children were asked to make "sorry" cards to First Nations people apologising for the actions of colonisers.
2GB listener Kim told Chris O'Keefe that her four-year-old twin grandchildren had participated in a lesson of painting cards apologising to First Nations people on National Sorry Day earlier this year at their preschool in Sydney's south.

One card read: "Sorry for hurting you. Sorry for hurting your land."


Looking at in one way, you could say it's a way to introduce young children to empathy, history, and social justice. While the children themselves may not have been responsible for historical injustices, the goal could be to help them understand the impacts of those actions and to develop a sense of responsibility towards creating a more just society.

However, it's obviously a highly sensitive area in society, and it may have been prudent to consult with parents beforehand.
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