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ATO - Indigenous Helpline
Aug 28^th, 2023 at 1:34pm

https://www.ato.gov.au/General/Aboriginal-and-Torres-Strait-Islander-people/Indi...

Unbelievable! Why does it even exist??

Our Indigenous helpline is for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples. You can also get free help at tax time.

If you have any questions about tax or super, you can contact us for help.

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If you have any questions about tax or super, you can contact us for help. You may also be able to get free Tax Help during tax time.

When you phone or visit, we may ask for your tax file number (TFN). You don’t have to tell us, but it's easier to help you if you do. If you don't have a TFN, we can help you get one.

We can’t give you information about someone else, even if they’re family. If you're helping a friend, family member or a kinship carer, they must be with you when you phone or visit us, unless we already have their written permission.

Find out how you can give permission for someone to speak to us on your behalf at update your contact details or authorised contacts.

Indigenous helpline

The ATO Indigenous helpline is for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples. Our staff on the Indigenous helpline may not be Indigenous themselves but they specialise in helping Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples. They can help you with things like getting a TFN, lodging your tax return, or finding your super.

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Re: ATO - Indigenous Helpline
Reply #1 - Aug 28^th, 2023 at 1:39pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 28^th, 2023 at 1:34pm:

https://www.ato.gov.au/General/Aboriginal-and-Torres-Strait-Islander-people/Indi...

Unbelievable! Why does it even exist??

Our Indigenous helpline is for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples. You can also get free help at tax time.

If you have any questions about tax or super, you can contact us for help.

On this page

Engage with us
Indigenous helpline
Other phone services
Visit us
Order forms and publications
Free Tax Help
Engage with us

If you have any questions about tax or super, you can contact us for help. You may also be able to get free Tax Help during tax time.

When you phone or visit, we may ask for your tax file number (TFN). You don’t have to tell us, but it's easier to help you if you do. If you don't have a TFN, we can help you get one.

We can’t give you information about someone else, even if they’re family. If you're helping a friend, family member or a kinship carer, they must be with you when you phone or visit us, unless we already have their written permission.

Find out how you can give permission for someone to speak to us on your behalf at update your contact details or authorised contacts.

Indigenous helpline

The ATO Indigenous helpline is for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples. Our staff on the Indigenous helpline may not be Indigenous themselves but they specialise in helping Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples. They can help you with things like getting a TFN, lodging your tax return, or finding your super.

All part of the poverty industry you support; even while most people suffering in generational welfare dependency won't need to seek tax advice....

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Re: ATO - Indigenous Helpline
Reply #2 - Aug 28^th, 2023 at 2:09pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 28^th, 2023 at 1:39pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 28^th, 2023 at 1:34pm:

https://www.ato.gov.au/General/Aboriginal-and-Torres-Strait-Islander-people/Indi...

Unbelievable! Why does it even exist??

Our Indigenous helpline is for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples. You can also get free help at tax time.

If you have any questions about tax or super, you can contact us for help.

On this page

Engage with us
Indigenous helpline
Other phone services
Visit us
Order forms and publications
Free Tax Help
Engage with us

If you have any questions about tax or super, you can contact us for help. You may also be able to get free Tax Help during tax time.

When you phone or visit, we may ask for your tax file number (TFN). You don’t have to tell us, but it's easier to help you if you do. If you don't have a TFN, we can help you get one.

We can’t give you information about someone else, even if they’re family. If you're helping a friend, family member or a kinship carer, they must be with you when you phone or visit us, unless we already have their written permission.

Find out how you can give permission for someone to speak to us on your behalf at update your contact details or authorised contacts.

Indigenous helpline

The ATO Indigenous helpline is for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples. Our staff on the Indigenous helpline may not be Indigenous themselves but they specialise in helping Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples.
They can help you with things like getting a TFN, lodging your tax return, or finding your super.

All part of the poverty industry you support; even while most people suffering in generational welfare dependency won't need to seek tax advice....

You (once again) missed the point.

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If I let myself be bought then I am no longer free.

HYPATIA - Greek philosopher, mathematician and astronomer (370 - 415)

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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20588 Gordon Gender:	Re: ATO - Indigenous Helpline Reply #3 - Aug 28^th, 2023 at 2:13pm If you're a boong, press 1. If you're a half cast, press 2. If your lighter (early days) Stan the Tan Man, please hold and we'll connect you to the next available operator.
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Reply #4 - Aug 28^th, 2023 at 2:19pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 28^th, 2023 at 2:09pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 28^th, 2023 at 1:39pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 28^th, 2023 at 1:34pm:

https://www.ato.gov.au/General/Aboriginal-and-Torres-Strait-Islander-people/Indi...

Unbelievable! Why does it even exist??

Our Indigenous helpline is for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples. You can also get free help at tax time.

If you have any questions about tax or super, you can contact us for help.

On this page

Engage with us
Indigenous helpline
Other phone services
Visit us
Order forms and publications
Free Tax Help
Engage with us

If you have any questions about tax or super, you can contact us for help. You may also be able to get free Tax Help during tax time.

When you phone or visit, we may ask for your tax file number (TFN). You don’t have to tell us, but it's easier to help you if you do. If you don't have a TFN, we can help you get one.

We can’t give you information about someone else, even if they’re family. If you're helping a friend, family member or a kinship carer, they must be with you when you phone or visit us, unless we already have their written permission.

Find out how you can give permission for someone to speak to us on your behalf at update your contact details or authorised contacts.

Indigenous helpline

The ATO Indigenous helpline is for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples. Our staff on the Indigenous helpline may not be Indigenous themselves but they specialise in helping Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples.
They can help you with things like getting a TFN, lodging your tax return, or finding your super.

All part of the poverty industry you support; even while most people suffering in generational welfare dependency won't need to seek tax advice....

You (once again) missed the point.

No; the point IS the bureaucracy supporting the poverty industry, trying to make itself useful with tax advice for blacks.

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Re: ATO - Indigenous Helpline
Reply #5 - Aug 28^th, 2023 at 2:27pm

They pay tax - or is it that those who do are tax illiterate... or that they should be finding out about their special dispensations and deductions - you know - rent payments by another name?????

NEVER trust government.

Bonus Question:- Are 'royalties' taken into account in determining their eligibility for social security payments. If I get a return on shares I have to include it in my tax return.... if I gain income I have to declare it against pension.... do the same rules apply or is this just free money - reparations and compensation of some kind - jeez - even those are subject to tax and social security rules..... must be different rules for different races, eh? But that's not racist.....

Just rent payment without responsibility? I note that the major complaint about the complaints of malfeasance is that there is no proper accounting - meaning the Silverback and family take all the cream and then some, live the rock star lifestyle, and grandly hand out a few bucks to the struggling poor .....

dividie? You ready to send in the People's Liberation Army yet to fix all this?

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: ATO - Indigenous Helpline Reply #6 - Aug 28^th, 2023 at 2:27pm Gordon wrote on Aug 28^th, 2023 at 2:13pm: If you're a boong, press 1. If you're a half cast, press 2. If your lighter (early days) Stan the Tan Man, please hold and we'll connect you to the next available operator. I’m going to call them (just to see wtf this BS helpline is really all about).
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Re: ATO - Indigenous Helpline
Reply #7 - Aug 28^th, 2023 at 2:39pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 28^th, 2023 at 2:27pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 28^th, 2023 at 2:13pm:

If you're a boong, press 1.
If you're a half cast, press 2.
If your lighter (early days) Stan the Tan Man, please hold and we'll connect you to the next available operator.

I’m going to call them (just to see wtf this BS helpline is really all about).

Octoroons press 8 ... High-steppin' Yellas (teaspoon med students etc) press 9..... Whites press 0 to get the equivalent response and assistance..... 0.

Bonus question:- Does UNSW make a fuss over any other ethnic group being in the graduating classes? Surely they laud Juden, given that they are the Jewish Technical College.

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Reply #8 - Aug 28^th, 2023 at 3:37pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 28^th, 2023 at 2:27pm:

They pay tax - or is it that those who do are tax illiterate... or that they should be finding out about their special dispensations and deductions - you know - rent payments by another name?????

NEVER trust government.

Asinine contention: govt. MUST be made to function for the people.

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Bonus Question:- Are 'royalties' taken into account in determining their eligibility for social security payments. If I get a return on shares I have to include it in my tax return.... if I gain income I have to declare it against pension.... do the same rules apply or is this just free money - reparations and compensation of some kind - jeez - even those are subject to tax and social security rules..... must be different rules for different races, eh? But that's not racist.....

That's what the "land rights' " madness has led to - a separate system for blacks.

But you refuse to ensure housing and jobs for everyone, you fraud.

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Just rent payment without responsibility?

Today we have a rent affordability problem, do try to keep up.

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I note that the major complaint about the complaints of malfeasance is that there is no proper accounting - meaning the Silverback and family take all the cream and then some, live the rock star lifestyle, and grandly hand out a few bucks to the struggling poor .....

A dysfunctional system. which you support.

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dividie? You ready to send in the People's Liberation Army yet to fix all this?

The CCP is also now runnning into problems, as the old export-driven wealth-creation model fails, because the US (and the West) is trying to bring manufacturing jobs back home.

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Reply #9 - Aug 28^th, 2023 at 3:53pm

Gordon wrote on Aug 28^th, 2023 at 2:13pm:

If you're a boong, press 1.
If you're a half cast, press 2.
If your lighter (early days) Stan the Tan Man, please hold and we'll connect you to the next available operator.

"Hello, I bought a new boomerang one for my welcome to country business and want to write it off in tax one - but I can't seem to be able to throw away the old one one. Would I be penalised for having two ones?"

"What are you, a comedian one? Get off this helpline at once or one will lose one's patience!"
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Reply #10 - Aug 28^th, 2023 at 5:13pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Aug 28^th, 2023 at 3:37pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 28^th, 2023 at 2:27pm:

They pay tax - or is it that those who do are tax illiterate... or that they should be finding out about their special dispensations and deductions - you know - rent payments by another name?????

NEVER trust government.

Asinine contention: govt. MUST be made to function for the people.

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Bonus Question:- Are 'royalties' taken into account in determining their eligibility for social security payments. If I get a return on shares I have to include it in my tax return.... if I gain income I have to declare it against pension.... do the same rules apply or is this just free money - reparations and compensation of some kind - jeez - even those are subject to tax and social security rules..... must be different rules for different races, eh? But that's not racist.....

That's what the "land rights' " madness has led to - a separate system for blacks.

But you refuse to ensure housing and jobs for everyone, you fraud.

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Just rent payment without responsibility?

Today we have a rent affordability problem, do try to keep up.

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I note that the major complaint about the complaints of malfeasance is that there is no proper accounting - meaning the Silverback and family take all the cream and then some, live the rock star lifestyle, and grandly hand out a few bucks to the struggling poor .....

A dysfunctional system. which you support.

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dividie? You ready to send in the People's Liberation Army yet to fix all this?

The CCP is also now runnning into problems, as the old export-driven wealth-creation model fails, because the US (and the West) is trying to bring manufacturing jobs back home.

And there you have it, folks ... dividie in all his glory and missing every point - as usual ................

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Reply #11 - Aug 28^th, 2023 at 5:15pm

Now - just to put the real questions back at the top:-

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 28^th, 2023 at 2:27pm:

They pay tax - or is it that those who do are tax illiterate... or that they should be finding out about their special dispensations and deductions - you know - rent payments by another name?????

NEVER trust government.

Bonus Question:- Are 'royalties' taken into account in determining their eligibility for social security payments. If I get a return on shares I have to include it in my tax return.... if I gain income I have to declare it against pension.... do the same rules apply or is this just free money - reparations and compensation of some kind - jeez - even those are subject to tax and social security rules..... must be different rules for different races, eh? But that's not racist.....

Just rent payment without responsibility? I note that the major complaint about the complaints of malfeasance is that there is no proper accounting - meaning the Silverback and family take all the cream and then some, live the rock star lifestyle, and grandly hand out a few bucks to the struggling poor .....

dividie? You ready to send in the People's Liberation Army yet to fix all this?

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Reply #12 - Aug 28^th, 2023 at 5:40pm

**chuckles** 'rent crisis' - the boy doesn't know the difference between the demand for paying the rent and the rental crisis.... just one error in his ways..... hint - one applies to Kooners - the other may but not in the same way.... got it? Wink

Once again - two separate issues..... stay out of your cellar filled with books....

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Reply #13 - Aug 29^th, 2023 at 1:14pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 28^th, 2023 at 5:15pm:

Now - just to put the real questions back at the top:-

The REAL question is closing the gap. [I'm with Simon Birmingham (!) who today said there are more important issues than promoting the Voice eg, closing the gap, and dealing with homelessness and a cost of living crisis].

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NEVER trust government.

Good government - ensuring provision of housing and jobs for all - is pricessless. Homelessness and entrenched welfare - courstesy of your neoliberal market orthodoxy - are disastrous.

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Bonus Question:- Are 'royalties' taken into account in determining their eligibility for social security payments.

Both are examples of wrong-headed policies of Liberalism. Oz resources belong to the OZ people, and the dole is a sham.

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dividie? You ready to send in the People's Liberation Army yet to fix all this?

No, they can't help.

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