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JC Denton

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abos arent a race
Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 1:36am

they're a social club

based on identification

not shared continental ancestry - the technical bedrock definition of a subspecies

anyone can be abo if they believe themselves to be and are accepted as such, regardless of their continental origin and measurable genotypic/phenotypic markers

this is conceptually how they have opted to define themselves, so who am i to argue

bashing them is therefore not racist

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Re: abos arent a race
Reply #1 - Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 1:48am

Oh dear... what a load of bullshit. Don't you have
anything better to do other than trolling this forum
with your puerile comments?

Anyway...

"Race is a categorisation of humans based on shared
physical or social qualities into groups generally
viewed as distinct within a given society. Modern
scholarship views racial categories as socially constructed,
that is, race is not intrinsic to human beings but rather
an identity created, often by socially dominant groups,
to establish meaning in a social context."

By starting this thread, you're deliberately hoping
to start yet another—of the already many—threads
here denigrating Aborigines with racist vitriol.

Angry

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JC Denton

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Re: abos arent a race
Reply #2 - Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 1:58am

lmao this is fvking moronic

imagine still bleating on about how the concept of subspecies doesn't apply to people using argumentative sleights of hand and bull-crap like fallacies from continuum

effectively semantic word play from the likes of mental midgets like yourself to attempt to eliminate common sense constructs that encompass real world biological phenomena

human races are certainly not identitarian constructs but delimiters of real world phenotypic and genotypic markers, which are bound by shared common ancestry

they are often more genetically distant than classified species are from each other

a true reality denialist trying to wave his hand with a bunch of semantic jedi mind tricks in order to pretend this stuff isn't real because he doesn't like the potential implications of it - the only people besides yourself you're convincing is everybody else as stupid as you

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 103404 Melbourne Gender:	Re: abos arent a race Reply #3 - Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 5:21am Abbos came from India about 60,000 years ago. They evolved to cope with the harsh, dry Australian conditions.
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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: abos arent a race Reply #4 - Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 7:53am Bobby. wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 5:21am: Abbos came from India about 60,000 years ago. Ahh so Abos are really just a bunch of wogs from India! 👌
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Re: abos arent a race
Reply #5 - Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 8:15am

JC Denton wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 1:58am:

lmao this is fvking moronic

imagine still bleating on about how the concept of subspecies doesn't apply to people using argumentative sleights of hand and bull-crap like fallacies from continuum

effectively semantic word play from the likes of mental midgets like yourself to attempt to eliminate common sense constructs that encompass real world biological phenomena

human races are certainly not identitarian constructs but delimiters of real world phenotypic and genotypic markers, which are bound by shared common ancestry

they are often more genetically distant than classified species are from each other

A quite spectacular example of someone trying to flesh out dot points they don't understand with words they've looked in effort to understand them but not really grasped the definition of those words.

Word. Salad.

Meaning absolutely nothing.

But what do we expect from someone with Himmler as their avatar?

Or are we all okay with that?

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If you can't be a good example, you have to be a horrible warning.

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JC Denton

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Re: abos arent a race
Reply #6 - Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 11:42am

mothra wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 8:15am:

JC Denton wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 1:58am:

lmao this is fvking moronic

imagine still bleating on about how the concept of subspecies doesn't apply to people using argumentative sleights of hand and bull-crap like fallacies from continuum

effectively semantic word play from the likes of mental midgets like yourself to attempt to eliminate common sense constructs that encompass real world biological phenomena

human races are certainly not identitarian constructs but delimiters of real world phenotypic and genotypic markers, which are bound by shared common ancestry

they are often more genetically distant than classified species are from each other

A quite spectacular example of someone trying to flesh out dot points they don't understand with words they've looked in effort to understand them but not really grasped the definition of those words.

Word. Salad.

Meaning absolutely nothing.

But what do we expect from someone with Himmler as their avatar?

Or are we all okay with that?

none of it is word salad lmao i can articulate every point

youre just stupid

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 48841 At my desk.	Re: abos arent a race Reply #7 - Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 11:46am He's got you there Mothra.
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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 12100 Gender:	Re: abos arent a race Reply #8 - Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 11:53am At the comedy end of race ideology is the shock, from DNA analysis, some people get when they discover that they're not only not the 'race' they thought they were but in many cases, they're not even the progeny of whom they thought they were. Hitler was famously terrified that he might have Jewish ancestry.
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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: abos arent a race Reply #9 - Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 11:56am freediver wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 11:46am: He's got you there Mothra. The poor bugger ... look at WHAT he’s got 😂🤣😆
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Re: abos arent a race
Reply #10 - Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 11:58am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 11:53am:

At the comedy end of race ideology is the shock, from DNA analysis, some people get when they discover that they're not only not the 'race' they thought they were but in many cases, they're not even the progeny of whom they thought they were.

Hitler was famously terrified that he might have Jewish ancestry.

$hitler has nothing to do with this topic. Nor do the Jews for that matter.

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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 12100 Gender:	Re: abos arent a race Reply #11 - Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:01pm JC Denton wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 1:58am: effectively semantic word play to attempt to eliminate common sense constructs that encompass real world biological phenomena Ah, the old postmodern-speak generator - the grandparent of ChatGPT!!
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Re: abos arent a race
Reply #12 - Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:05pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 11:58am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 11:53am:

At the comedy end of race ideology is the shock, from DNA analysis, some people get when they discover that they're not only not the 'race' they thought they were but in many cases, they're not even the progeny of whom they thought they were.

Hitler was famously terrified that he might have Jewish ancestry.

$hitler has nothing to do with this topic. Nor do the Jews for that matter.

Ah, the Jews... A 'race' or a religio-cultural phenomenon?

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Re: abos arent a race
Reply #13 - Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:10pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:05pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 11:58am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 11:53am:

At the comedy end of race ideology is the shock, from DNA analysis, some people get when they discover that they're not only not the 'race' they thought they were but in many cases, they're not even the progeny of whom they thought they were.

Hitler was famously terrified that he might have Jewish ancestry.

$hitler has nothing to do with this topic. Nor do the Jews for that matter.

Ah, the Jews... A 'race' or a religio-cultural phenomenon?

Well that’s an entirely different topic as you’re discussing more than just race AND you’re not discussing Aborigines.

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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 12100 Gender:	Re: abos arent a race Reply #14 - Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:15pm There are Sephardic Jews, Ashkenazi Jews, Ethiopian Jews etc... How many are 'Semites'? Pure Aboriginal DNA is endemic to Australia, although it carries the markers found in certain Indian tribal DNA, Papua-New Guinean DNA, Indonesian DNA, Phillipine DNA, Denisovan DNA and, of course, African DNA.
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