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Reply #15 - Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:20pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:15pm:

Pure Aboriginal DNA is endemic to Australia, although it carries the markers found in certain Indian tribal DNA, Papua-New Guinean DNA, Indonesian DNA, Phillipine DNA, Denisovan DNA and, of course, African DNA.

1. Oh so Bobby was right then - they did migrate from these other regions (in which case I don’t understand how we can even talk of “PURE Aboriginal DNA”).

2. BTW - I wouldn’t mind seeing a link. (It’s not that I don’t believe you ... I would like to read more).

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Reply #16 - Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:25pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:20pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:15pm:

Pure Aboriginal DNA is endemic to Australia, although it carries the markers found in certain Indian tribal DNA, Papua-New Guinean DNA, Indonesian DNA, Phillipine DNA, Denisovan DNA and, of course, African DNA.

1. Oh so Bobby was right then - they did migrate from these other regions.

2. BTW - I wouldn’t mind seeing a link. (It’s not that I don’t believe you ... I would like to read more).

Of course they migrated. Dreamtime stories are, y'know, creation myths - common to every human society - not records of actual events.

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Reply #17 - Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:26pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 11:58am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 11:53am:

At the comedy end of race ideology is the shock, from DNA analysis, some people get when they discover that they're not only not the 'race' they thought they were but in many cases, they're not even the progeny of whom they thought they were.

Hitler was famously terrified that he might have Jewish ancestry.

$hitler has nothing to do with this topic. Nor do the Jews for that matter.

... other than in the tactics employed and the often dire results that follow..... the division, the dominance, the control and finally the solution............ so let's start at stopping step one...

Albo is just going to have to do without his Lincoln the Liberator statue ...

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Reply #18 - Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:29pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:25pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:20pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:15pm:

Pure Aboriginal DNA is endemic to Australia, although it carries the markers found in certain Indian tribal DNA, Papua-New Guinean DNA, Indonesian DNA, Phillipine DNA, Denisovan DNA and, of course, African DNA.

1. Oh so Bobby was right then - they did migrate from these other regions (in which case I don’t understand how we can even talk of “PURE Aboriginal DNA”).

2. BTW - I wouldn’t mind seeing a link. (It’s not that I don’t believe you ... I would like to read more).

Of course they migrated. Dreamtime stories are, y'know, creation myths - common to every human society - not records of actual events.

Oral traditions are nothing new. Stories through songs, drama, dance, myths etc.

Also I don’t understand how you can even talk about pure Aboriginal DNA given the migration processes you’ve outlined.

Have you got a link?

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Reply #19 - Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:31pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:20pm:

in which case I don’t understand how we can even talk of “PURE Aboriginal DNA”).

We can't speak of pure DNA - in the sense that it was not inherited from other regions, species or sub-species.

If you met your millionth great-grandfather, you'd likely fry him in butter and eat him.

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Reply #20 - Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:36pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:31pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:20pm:

in which case I don’t understand how we can even talk of “PURE Aboriginal DNA”).

We can't speak of pure DNA - in the sense that it was not inherited from other regions, species or sub-species.

That’s right. You brought the phrase up here 👇

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:15pm:

Pure Aboriginal DNA is endemic to Australia, although it carries the markers found in certain Indian tribal DNA, Papua-New Guinean DNA, Indonesian DNA, Phillipine DNA, Denisovan DNA and, of course, African DNA.

There’s no such thing as PURE DNA wrt Aborigines.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74303 Gender:	Re: abos arent a race Reply #21 - Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:37pm Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:20pm: 1. Oh so Bobby was right then - they did migrate from these other regions as did the Greeks you cretin. Or did you think Adam and Eve were Greek?
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Reply #22 - Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:38pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:36pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:31pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:20pm:

in which case I don’t understand how we can even talk of “PURE Aboriginal DNA”).

We can't speak of pure DNA - in the sense that it was not inherited from other regions, species or sub-species.

That’s right. You brought the phrase up here 👇

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:15pm:

Pure Aboriginal DNA is endemic to Australia, although it carries the markers found in certain Indian tribal DNA, Papua-New Guinean DNA, Indonesian DNA, Phillipine DNA, Denisovan DNA and, of course, African DNA.

There’s no such thing as PURE DNA wrt Aborigines.

In fact that’s probably why I’m asking for a link Meister.

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Bias_2012 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10766 Gender:	Re: abos arent a race Reply #23 - Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:40pm Albosqueaky thinks Abos are a race. He's holding a referendum to prove it Brian Ross doesn't think they are a race, he said all humans are the same, that there are no races ... yet he calls us racist if we talk about them. How can anyone be racist if there are no races? It gets a little confusing at times
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Reply #24 - Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:42pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:40pm:

Albosqueaky thinks Abos are a race. He's holding a referendum to prove it

Brian Ross doesn't think they are a race, he said all humans are the same, that there are no races ... yet he calls us racist if we talk about them. How can anyone be racist if there are no races?

It gets a little confusing at times

confusion is a permanent state of being with you

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Reply #25 - Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:44pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:36pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:31pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:20pm:

in which case I don’t understand how we can even talk of “PURE Aboriginal DNA”).

We can't speak of pure DNA - in the sense that it was not inherited from other regions, species or sub-species.

That’s right. You brought the phrase up.

There’s no such thing as PURE DNA wrt Aborigines.

It depends on the context you use 'pure'. All DNA is inherited - that applies to all living and extinct species prior to the 'creation' events that gave rise to RNA and DNA.

In the context of where similar DNA found in Australian Aboriginals is found elsewhere in the world, their DNA is endemic to Australia - i.e. pure as in 'full-blood' - not mixed with recent European/Asian/etc... DNA.

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Reply #26 - Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:49pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:40pm:

Albosqueaky thinks Abos are a race. He's holding a referendum to prove it

Brian Ross doesn't think they are a race, he said all humans are the same, that there are no races ... yet he calls us racist if we talk about them. How can anyone be racist if there are no races?

It gets a little confusing at times

Race is whatever the writer/speaker says it is.

But usually, they're referring to religious/societal/cultural phenomena - or superficialities like skin colour.

Sentinel Island peoples look African, yet their DNA indicates that they are likely more closely related to Southeast Asians than Africans.

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Reply #27 - Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:52pm

"Race" is a concept created by Racists to justicy their denigration of humans on the basis of physical differences between people. There is more difference within most "Racial" groups than there is between the groups. "Race" is based upon usually melanin/facial differences/hair differences/etc., rather than genetic differences. The use of the term "sub-species" is a complete misnomer used by "Racists" to try to justify their "Racism", all humans have no difficulties interbreeding amongst themselves, "sub-species" point to major genetic differences. It is time they woke up and smelled the truth of Genetics and what it implies for humanity. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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Reply #28 - Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:52pm

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:40pm:

Albosqueaky thinks Abos are a race. He's holding a referendum to prove it

Brian Ross doesn't think they are a race, he said all humans are the same, that there are no races ... yet he calls us racist if we talk about them. How can anyone be racist if there are no races?

It gets a little confusing at times

Oh I know. I’m getting there.

Very soon you’ll find that those advocating for YES will finally wake up to the ruse of a vile Labor Party Prime Minister who is pretending to be a caring working class man who values the environment and Aborigines. Albo is a fraud! The sooner we ALL wake up to this the better. The guy is the exact opposite of what he claims. Many left wingers who voted him
in are ever so slowly waking up to this.

Has anyone heard the blooming fool talk about The Voice as being about nation building? It’s not! It’s the exact opposite! It’s nation destroying! We’re fighting each other. Aborigines are fighting Aborigines. Non Aborigines are fighting non Aborigines.

Does anyone remember the blatant lies he’s told wrt to his pro environment policies which would help Australia make a stand against Liberal Party policy? Take a look at the coal mines Labor is approving left right and centre AND Labor has pushed to override previous legislation so as to allow the biggest polluters of the current globe to bury their nuclear waste in Australia. And the regions Albo has offered up are close to waterways.

My apologies to all for going off topic but you know.... I’m farkkkkimg angry at how dumb Australia is. What has happened to make so many Australians seriously naive, gullible and stupid??

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Reply #29 - Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:56pm

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 12:52pm:

"Race" is a concept created by Racists to justicy their denigration of humans on the basis of physical differences between people. There is more difference within most "Racial" groups than there is between the groups. "Race" is based upon usually melanin/facial differences/hair differences/etc., rather than genetic differences. The use of the term "sub-species" is a complete misnomer used by "Racists" to try to justify their "Racism", all humans have no difficulties interbreeding amongst themselves, "sub-species" point to major genetic differences. It is time they woke up and smelled the truth of Genetics and what it implies for humanity. Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

Sub-species is used to define groups that were split and isolated from others such that their DNA markers differ significantly from each other but not enough to prevent interbreeding that produces fertile offspring.

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