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thegreatdivide Gold Member Offline Australian Politics<br /> Posts: 12644 Gender:	Re: abos arent a race Reply #300 - Sep 5^th, 2023 at 12:45pm .
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Reply #301 - Sep 5^th, 2023 at 12:48pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 12:45pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 12:34pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 12:29pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 12:23pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 12:14pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 12:09pm:

Are they discriminated against?

If ever there was a question that didn't deserve an answer. Christ on a bike!

What's the bet Fleadriver asks me so many times that he becomes frustrated and starts thread about it and my dishonesty for not answering him?

You could just try being honest upfront. Why are you afraid of the answer?

All people denied full-time work, who want to work, are
discriminated against by your sick neoliberal 'invisible hand' greed-based markets.

And black unemployment rates are double those of non- blacks.

You fraud; you ran a million miles from the reality of the egregious effects of generational welfare dependency.

I just don't think welfare is a cure for welfare dependency, no matter how well you disguise it.

So you are confused(it's amazing how a faulty world view renders people incapable of rational analysis); the "cure" for welfare is a job, which thereby eliminates welfare dependency, by definition.

Geez....

Time to face the egregious effects of the unmitigated greed-based 'invisible hand' market economy.

Time for govt. oversight to engender "from each according to his ability....", to ameliorate that greed-based market system.

When people don't want to turn every single thread into a discussion about your one idiotic idea that you keep parroting, they are not running away. They are bored.

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thegreatdivide Gold Member Offline Australian Politics<br /> Posts: 12644 Gender:	Re: abos arent a race Reply #302 - Sep 5^th, 2023 at 1:13pm .
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Re: abos arent a race
Reply #303 - Sep 5^th, 2023 at 1:18pm

freediver wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 12:48pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 12:45pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 12:34pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 12:29pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 12:23pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 12:14pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 12:09pm:

Are they discriminated against?

If ever there was a question that didn't deserve an answer. Christ on a bike!

What's the bet Fleadriver asks me so many times that he becomes frustrated and starts thread about it and my dishonesty for not answering him?

You could just try being honest upfront. Why are you afraid of the answer?

All people denied full-time work, who want to work, are
discriminated against by your sick neoliberal 'invisible hand' greed-based markets.

And black unemployment rates are double those of non- blacks.

You fraud; you ran a million miles from the reality of the egregious effects of generational welfare dependency.

I just don't think welfare is a cure for welfare dependency, no matter how well you disguise it.

So you are confused(it's amazing how a faulty world view renders people incapable of rational analysis); the "cure" for welfare is a job, which thereby eliminates welfare dependency, by definition.

Geez....

Time to face the egregious effects of the unmitigated greed-based 'invisible hand' market economy.

Time for govt. oversight to engender "from each according to his ability....", to ameliorate that greed-based market system.

When people don't want to turn every single thread into a discussion about your one idiotic idea that you keep parroting, they are not running away. They are bored.

So there you have it; defending welfare dependency by saying its different to welfare: "I just don't think welfare is a cure for welfare dependency".

What exactly do you imagine that absurd statement means? What IS the cure for welfare dependency, if not a job?

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thegreatdivide Gold Member Offline Australian Politics<br /> Posts: 12644 Gender:	Re: abos arent a race Reply #304 - Sep 5^th, 2023 at 1:19pm .
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Re: abos arent a race
Reply #305 - Sep 5^th, 2023 at 1:27pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 1:18pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 12:48pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 12:45pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 12:34pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 12:29pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 12:23pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 12:14pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 12:09pm:

Are they discriminated against?

If ever there was a question that didn't deserve an answer. Christ on a bike!

What's the bet Fleadriver asks me so many times that he becomes frustrated and starts thread about it and my dishonesty for not answering him?

You could just try being honest upfront. Why are you afraid of the answer?

All people denied full-time work, who want to work, are
discriminated against by your sick neoliberal 'invisible hand' greed-based markets.

And black unemployment rates are double those of non- blacks.

You fraud; you ran a million miles from the reality of the egregious effects of generational welfare dependency.

I just don't think welfare is a cure for welfare dependency, no matter how well you disguise it.

So you are confused(it's amazing how a faulty world view renders people incapable of rational analysis); the "cure" for welfare is a job, which thereby eliminates welfare dependency, by definition.

Geez....

Time to face the egregious effects of the unmitigated greed-based 'invisible hand' market economy.

Time for govt. oversight to engender "from each according to his ability....", to ameliorate that greed-based market system.

When people don't want to turn every single thread into a discussion about your one idiotic idea that you keep parroting, they are not running away. They are bored.

So there you have it; defending welfare dependency by saying its different to welfare: "I just don't think welfare is a cure for welfare dependency".

What exactly do you imagine that absurd statement means? What IS the cure for welfare dependency, if not a job?

I mean the same thing I meant in the many other threads where I have had the exact same conversation with you.

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JC Denton Gold Member Offline Posts: 5470 Gender:	Re: abos arent a race Reply #306 - Sep 5^th, 2023 at 1:28pm replying to mothra and greatdivide is a waste of time
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mothra Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 35331 Gender:	Re: abos arent a race Reply #307 - Sep 5^th, 2023 at 1:33pm JC Denton wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 1:28pm: replying to mothra and greatdivide is a waste of time I kicked your arse. You had nothing. Nothing.
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Reply #308 - Sep 5^th, 2023 at 1:35pm

mothra wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 1:33pm:

JC Denton wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 1:28pm:

replying to mothra and greatdivide is a waste of time

I kicked your arse. You had nothing. Nothing.

you didnt lol

your argument consisted of repeating the notion that supply and demand magically do not apply to australia's rental market

pumping in hundreds of thousands of migrants without regard to the pace of available rental supply will necessarily put upward pressure on prices

YOU F KING IDIOT

THAT IS GOING TO UNDENIABLY SO

how the f_ck is anyone supposed to address something so backwards ass ignorant and moronic

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Reply #309 - Sep 5^th, 2023 at 1:36pm

mothra wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 12:41pm:

JC Denton wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 12:38pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 12:34pm:

JC Denton wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 12:27pm:

it's migrants you moron, the laws of supply and demand don't magically don't apply to australia's land and rental market

you bring in more people than there is available supply and supply falls out of equilibrium with the introduced demand

holy sh1t how stupid are you

I think you'll find that minds far greater than yours have factored migrants in to the supply and demand for housing and have done successfully for many decades.

What happened is COVID hit. People moved back to their rental properties from overseas and interstate and kicked their tenants out. There was a sudden and unforeseen demand for property so more and more investment owners bought and sold ... taking advantage of low interest rates, threatening ever to rise.

How can you not know know this? Why do you not know this? Why aren't you properly educated on your special interest?

lmao what an unbelievable cop out

these "greater minds" go out of their way to sidestep the obvious fact that the government is bringing in a lot of migrants and that is swallowing the available land supply, they simply deflect the issue by trying to make it entirely a matter of supply and only ever propose supply-side solutions, while pretending that demand pressure doesn't exist

you don't even understand rudimentary economics 101 concepts, why is it even worth replying to you

I just refuted that.

Are you challenged? Scrap that. You're a nazi. Of course you are.

Migrants are well factored into supply and demand. Has been for decades.

Now, if you concentrate, can you think of something extraordinary that happened in the last few years?

No you didnt. Who are those "far greater minds"? The construction industry? Thd immigration department? The ScoMo Albo Governments?

Annual dwelling constructions per year since 2003 = approx 40 to 60 thousand dwellings
https://www.housingdata.gov.au/visualisation/housing-market/building-activity-dw...

Australia's natural population growth (excluding migration) is around 30-40 thousand per annum
https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/people/population/national-state-and-territory...

Annual net migration
2007 to 2020 average net gain of 226,000 per year - more temporary migration
2020-21 net loss of 85,000 due to impact of COVID-19 pandemic
2021-22 resumption of positive net migration - a net gain of 171,000 people recorded
https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/people/population/overseas-migration/latest-re...

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JC Denton Gold Member Offline Posts: 5470 Gender:	Re: abos arent a race Reply #310 - Sep 5^th, 2023 at 1:37pm there is no getting thru to this thick as pig sh1t creature
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Re: abos arent a race
Reply #311 - Sep 5^th, 2023 at 1:42pm

JC Denton wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 1:35pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 1:33pm:

JC Denton wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 1:28pm:

replying to mothra and greatdivide is a waste of time

I kicked your arse. You had nothing. Nothing.

you didnt lol

your argument consisted of repeating the notion that supply and demand magically do not apply to australia's rental market

pumping in hundreds of thousands of migrants without regard to the pace of available rental supply will necessarily put upward pressure on prices

YOU F KING IDIOT

THAT IS GOING TO UNDENIABLY SO

how the f_ck is anyone supposed to address something so backwards ass ignorant and moronic

Is that what you got from what i said?

Poor little nazi. So oblivious.

Did you think what might have been different over the last few years that may have effected the housing market? I did give you a few clies. I was even quite bold about it.

Any land? No?

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Reply #312 - Sep 5^th, 2023 at 1:44pm

mothra wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 1:42pm:

JC Denton wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 1:35pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 1:33pm:

JC Denton wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 1:28pm:

replying to mothra and greatdivide is a waste of time

I kicked your arse. You had nothing. Nothing.

you didnt lol

your argument consisted of repeating the notion that supply and demand magically do not apply to australia's rental market

pumping in hundreds of thousands of migrants without regard to the pace of available rental supply will necessarily put upward pressure on prices

YOU F KING IDIOT

THAT IS GOING TO UNDENIABLY SO

how the f_ck is anyone supposed to address something so backwards ass ignorant and moronic

Is that what you got from what i said?

Poor little nazi. So oblivious.

Did you think what might have been different over the last few years that may have effected the housing market? I did give you a few clies. I was even quite bold about it.

Any land? No?

immigration is higher now than it has been in f_cking forever

rental prices stalled during covid but climbed a bit after work from home drove an increased demand for larger dwellings

then they absolutely exploded after covid when albanese started bringing in migrants to an unprecedented degree

it wouldnt be possible for you to be a more frustrating f_cktard if you tried

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Reply #313 - Sep 5^th, 2023 at 1:45pm

Frank wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 1:36pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 12:41pm:

JC Denton wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 12:38pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 12:34pm:

JC Denton wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 12:27pm:

it's migrants you moron, the laws of supply and demand don't magically don't apply to australia's land and rental market

you bring in more people than there is available supply and supply falls out of equilibrium with the introduced demand

holy sh1t how stupid are you

I think you'll find that minds far greater than yours have factored migrants in to the supply and demand for housing and have done successfully for many decades.

What happened is COVID hit. People moved back to their rental properties from overseas and interstate and kicked their tenants out. There was a sudden and unforeseen demand for property so more and more investment owners bought and sold ... taking advantage of low interest rates, threatening ever to rise.

How can you not know know this? Why do you not know this? Why aren't you properly educated on your special interest?

lmao what an unbelievable cop out

these "greater minds" go out of their way to sidestep the obvious fact that the government is bringing in a lot of migrants and that is swallowing the available land supply, they simply deflect the issue by trying to make it entirely a matter of supply and only ever propose supply-side solutions, while pretending that demand pressure doesn't exist

you don't even understand rudimentary economics 101 concepts, why is it even worth replying to you

I just refuted that.

Are you challenged? Scrap that. You're a nazi. Of course you are.

Migrants are well factored into supply and demand. Has been for decades.

Now, if you concentrate, can you think of something extraordinary that happened in the last few years?

Annual dwelling constructions per year since 2003 = approx 40 to 60 thousand dwellings
https://www.housingdata.gov.au/visualisation/housing-market/building-activity-dw...

Australia's natural population growth (excluding migration) is around 30-40 thousand per annum
https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/people/population/national-state-and-territory...

Annual net migration
2007 to 2020 average net gain of 226,000 per year - more temporary migration
2020-21 net loss of 85,000 due to impact of COVID-19 pandemic
2021-22 resumption of positive net migration - a net gain of 171,000 people recorded
https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/people/population/overseas-migration/latest-re...

I', sorry fruitbat, but are you suggesting that we need to build a new house for every person born in Australia?

I mean, just going off what you are trying to pass off as relevance in your first two lonks.

Haven't got to the thirs one yet but i expect it's crap.

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Reply #314 - Sep 5^th, 2023 at 1:46pm

mothra wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 11:56am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 11:34am:

Boris wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 10:40am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 9:48am:

[quote author=MeisterEckhart link=1693582586/237#237 date=1693830664]When British settlers in the early 19th century finally reached the central coast of Western Australia, they were stunned to find some tribes of Aboriginal peoples who were tall, fairer-skinned and fairer-eyed than any Aboriginals encountered in Australia. Also, male-pattern baldness - unheard-of in other Aboriginal communities.

Their language, it was later discovered, included Dutch words in its lexicon.

There were at least 200 Europeans who were known to have been marooned in Western Australia (possibly more). They were never seen again by their European compatriots.

Evidence of their fate appears (at least for some) to have been preserved by their passing on their DNA.

There are myths passed on within some Aboriginal tribes in Western Australia that dead ancestors, (whose skin had turned white and whose hair had lightened), returned to their people in boats that had sailed from the moon.

It is true - I have seen it - Gascoyne Aborigines

A darker side to this Dutch inheritance is that a couple of genetc disorders (originating from the Netherlands) are still present outside the Netherlands among some Afrikaans people in South Africa, some Amish communities in the US and some Aboriginal peoples of midwest coastal Western Australia.

The genetic diseases in question are porphyria variegata and Ellis-van Creveld syndrome. Porphyria variegata, which has a high prevalence among Dutch-descended Afrikaners in South Africa, also appears in Aboriginal populations along the west coast of Western Australia.

The argument is that a crew member or passenger picked up at the Cape Colony may have had that disease, survived a shipwreck and introduced it into the local Aboriginal populations.

A similar argument has been put forward in regard to Ellis-van Creveld syndrome. This disorder, characterised by polydactylism, has its highest incidence globally in the Mennonite sect of the Amish community. The Amish moved from the Netherlands to the USA in the late 17th century.

The second highest incidence of EllisVan Creveld is amongst the Aboriginal population in the southwest of Western Australia, the implication being that the defect was introduced by Dutch seafarers.

https://rupertgerritsen.tripod.com/pdf/published/Evidence_of_Cohabitation_-_Book...

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