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Reply #361 - Sep 5th, 2023 at 8:52pm
 
So the Mabo decision is illegal since it defines its decision by race?

Always good to know for when the REAL government takes over and all that guff is put in its proper place.... BTW - Mabo applies to a small island held by squatter's right by the same family group for ages and the government declined to ask for the usual payment for taking over the land legally ... nothing more - nothing less... it has no place in discussion of any handing over of vast swathes of land where the claimants have scarcely walked for decades and sometimes more.  By that standard every bushwalker can claim a national park.

They who choose to live in a remote area and to pursue their own mode of life which does not fit well are responsible for their own lack of employment.... blenty of good keffir have a job.... same rates of pay too!!
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Reply #362 - Sep 5th, 2023 at 8:52pm
 
thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 8:49pm:
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Re: abos arent a race
Reply #363 - Sep 5th, 2023 at 9:13pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 8:40pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 8:07pm:
Dnarever wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 7:43pm:
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abos arent a race


Don't see how it matters but they are legally accepted as such in Australia.


You don't know ANYTHING, pea brain. That is your function in life - the guy who knows nothing but is not afraid to say so.


Abos are either a race or they are not.
If not, then why should they have a dedicated Vouce? On what grounds?

If they are a race - where does Aboriginality start and END?

Does Aboriginal ancestry, however tenuous, render you automatically inferior and incapable an DC therefore, racially in need of special treatment, assistance, dispensation, preferment?


Do the children of Stan Grant, Megan Davis, Linda Burney, Warren Mundene,  Ken Wyatt,  Jacinta Price, Livid Thorpe, Noel Pearson, Bruce Pascoe need special treatment because they are Aborigines, at various removes?




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If they are a race


They were found to be a race as far back as the Marbo decision if not before, Appeals against the determination have all failed.

As a statement of fact the Aboriginal people are legally determined to be a race of people.

Do you find it interesting that I apparently know nothing but show that I know more than you almost every single time ? Can you work out what they says about you ?

Do you understand that this topic is the work of a self admitted white nationalist racist etc and that you agree with him on it seems every point ? Can you work out what they says about you ?

Doktor BBwian would disagree with you, duck brain.  He maintains that there is no such thing as race, and Mabo be damned.

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Reply #364 - Sep 5th, 2023 at 9:23pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 8:35pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 8:06pm:
Dnarever wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 7:43pm:
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abos arent a race


Don't see how it matters but they are legally accepted as such in Australia.


You don't know ANYTHING, pea brain. That is your function in life - the guy who knows nothing but is not afraid to say so.


Abos are either a race or they are not.
If not, then why should they have a dedicated Vouce? On what grounds?

If they are a race - where does Aboriginality start and END?

Does Aboriginal ancestry, however tenuous, render you automatically inferior and incapable an DC therefore, racially in need of special treatment, assistance, dispensation, preferment?

Do the children of Stan Grant, Megan Davis, Linda Burney, Warren Mundene,  Ken Wyatt,  Jacinta Price, Livid Thorpe, Noel Pearson, Bruce Pascoe need special treatment because they are Aborigines, at various removes?


Only a Racist cares, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

So you are a racist, then.
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Re: abos arent a race
Reply #365 - Sep 5th, 2023 at 9:26pm
 
John Smith wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 8:37pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 8:31pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 8:23pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 8:20pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 8:15pm:
Gnads wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 6:38pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 3rd, 2023 at 8:53pm:
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Why would I do that John? Multiple people have confirmed it and no-one disagrees with them.


Great,  then you can stop asking dumb questions that you then run away from when given a chance to learn the answers.  Less embarrassing for you that way.




So that's a "yes" then .... gr.10? Grin

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

I only went to high school to grade 10  Wink

then 2 years at Ag college.


It shows

When did YOU drop out?

How much Aboriginal is in you?

You should be able to say unless you are as HGH and (which is why you have been avoiding answering).


Me - zero Aboriginality.  I am not ashamed to say it .


Who said I dropped out sore end?  Cheesy


Everyone.

How Abo are you?  Don't be ashamed.


I've answered that question dumb arse. If you were so stupid that you posted the same question in a hundred threads and now can't find the answer then that is your problem for being so stupid in the first place.

And  how would anyone know my education levels? I've only ever offered to share my qualifications with fd but he ran away.  Did you all read it in your tea leaves?

No you havent. You avoided answering it.

What is your racial background.
You are obviously not a 'John Smith'. You are hiding your background because you are ashamed of it.

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Reply #366 - Sep 5th, 2023 at 9:29pm
 
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Reply #367 - Sep 5th, 2023 at 9:33pm
 
Frank wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 9:13pm:
Dnarever wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 8:40pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 8:07pm:
Dnarever wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 7:43pm:
Quote:
abos arent a race


Don't see how it matters but they are legally accepted as such in Australia.


You don't know ANYTHING, pea brain. That is your function in life - the guy who knows nothing but is not afraid to say so.


Abos are either a race or they are not.
If not, then why should they have a dedicated Vouce? On what grounds?

If they are a race - where does Aboriginality start and END?

Does Aboriginal ancestry, however tenuous, render you automatically inferior and incapable an DC therefore, racially in need of special treatment, assistance, dispensation, preferment?


Do the children of Stan Grant, Megan Davis, Linda Burney, Warren Mundene,  Ken Wyatt,  Jacinta Price, Livid Thorpe, Noel Pearson, Bruce Pascoe need special treatment because they are Aborigines, at various removes?




Quote:
If they are a race


They were found to be a race as far back as the Marbo decision if not before, Appeals against the determination have all failed.

As a statement of fact the Aboriginal people are legally determined to be a race of people.

Do you find it interesting that I apparently know nothing but show that I know more than you almost every single time ? Can you work out what they says about you ?

Do you understand that this topic is the work of a self admitted white nationalist racist etc and that you agree with him on it seems every point ? Can you work out what they says about you ?

Doktor BBwian would disagree with you, duck brain.  He maintains that there is no such thing as race, and Mabo be damned.



He may be right, However they are a people - and not only a people but a people who were here before us. See back to the top line - does it matter ?  Marbo ruled that terra nullius was a crock and it is difficult to disagree. The Aboriginal people do not have to be a race being a discrete people is effectively the same thing. Just as there is no Australian American or Chinese race ?
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Re: abos arent a race
Reply #368 - Sep 5th, 2023 at 9:39pm
 
So WHO are the Aborigines?

If Pascoe can be an Aborigine then anyone can be an Aborigine - which EMPTIES the concept of all meaning.


And if it is emptied of all meaning then what the **** is the point of putting such a meaningless, empty concept into the constitution?


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Reply #369 - Sep 5th, 2023 at 9:59pm
 
Who cares if it was terra nullius way back then?  It's Terra Australis now and cannot be turned back to suit a whining majority...

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Reply #370 - Sep 5th, 2023 at 10:02pm
 
Frank wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 9:26pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 8:37pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 8:31pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 8:23pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 8:20pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 8:15pm:
Gnads wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 6:38pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 3rd, 2023 at 8:53pm:
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Why would I do that John? Multiple people have confirmed it and no-one disagrees with them.


Great,  then you can stop asking dumb questions that you then run away from when given a chance to learn the answers.  Less embarrassing for you that way.




So that's a "yes" then .... gr.10? Grin

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

I only went to high school to grade 10  Wink

then 2 years at Ag college.


It shows

When did YOU drop out?

How much Aboriginal is in you?

You should be able to say unless you are as HGH and (which is why you have been avoiding answering).


Me - zero Aboriginality.  I am not ashamed to say it .


Who said I dropped out sore end?  Cheesy


Everyone.

How Abo are you?  Don't be ashamed.


I've answered that question dumb arse. If you were so stupid that you posted the same question in a hundred threads and now can't find the answer then that is your problem for being so stupid in the first place.

And  how would anyone know my education levels? I've only ever offered to share my qualifications with fd but he ran away.  Did you all read it in your tea leaves?

No you havent. You avoided answering it.

What is your racial background.
You are obviously not a 'John Smith'. You are hiding your background because you are ashamed of it.



Sure I have. You're just too stupid to know where to look for the answer.
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Reply #371 - Sep 5th, 2023 at 10:05pm
 
Now they've done it - upset the 'better classes'.... the Abos haven't been there for over a hundred years now and I thought mothra told us they'd all been driven out ....... but don't let that stand in their way.... like Goat Island... you know.... primest real estate and they demand it.... even if their 'ties to the lend' are from somewhere else...

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/balmoral-beach-aboriginal-land-claim-pa...
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Reply #372 - Sep 5th, 2023 at 10:26pm
 
John Smith wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 10:02pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 9:26pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 8:37pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 8:31pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 8:23pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 8:20pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 8:15pm:
Gnads wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 6:38pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 3rd, 2023 at 8:53pm:
Quote:
Why would I do that John? Multiple people have confirmed it and no-one disagrees with them.


Great,  then you can stop asking dumb questions that you then run away from when given a chance to learn the answers.  Less embarrassing for you that way.




So that's a "yes" then .... gr.10? Grin

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

I only went to high school to grade 10  Wink

then 2 years at Ag college.


It shows

When did YOU drop out?

How much Aboriginal is in you?

You should be able to say unless you are as HGH and (which is why you have been avoiding answering).


Me - zero Aboriginality.  I am not ashamed to say it .


Who said I dropped out sore end?  Cheesy


Everyone.

How Abo are you?  Don't be ashamed.


I've answered that question dumb arse. If you were so stupid that you posted the same question in a hundred threads and now can't find the answer then that is your problem for being so stupid in the first place.

And  how would anyone know my education levels? I've only ever offered to share my qualifications with fd but he ran away.  Did you all read it in your tea leaves?

No you havent. You avoided answering it.

What is your racial background.
You are obviously not a 'John Smith'. You are hiding your background because you are ashamed of it.



Sure I have. You're just too stupid to know where to look for the answer.

Ashamed, then, of your parents.
Carry on. Gawd knows, you will.

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Reply #373 - Sep 5th, 2023 at 10:43pm
 
Frank wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 10:26pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 10:02pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 9:26pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 8:37pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 8:31pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 8:23pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 8:20pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 8:15pm:
Gnads wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 6:38pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 3rd, 2023 at 8:53pm:
Quote:
Why would I do that John? Multiple people have confirmed it and no-one disagrees with them.


Great,  then you can stop asking dumb questions that you then run away from when given a chance to learn the answers.  Less embarrassing for you that way.




So that's a "yes" then .... gr.10? Grin

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

I only went to high school to grade 10  Wink

then 2 years at Ag college.


It shows

When did YOU drop out?

How much Aboriginal is in you?

You should be able to say unless you are as HGH and (which is why you have been avoiding answering).


Me - zero Aboriginality.  I am not ashamed to say it .


Who said I dropped out sore end?  Cheesy


Everyone.

How Abo are you?  Don't be ashamed.


I've answered that question dumb arse. If you were so stupid that you posted the same question in a hundred threads and now can't find the answer then that is your problem for being so stupid in the first place.

And  how would anyone know my education levels? I've only ever offered to share my qualifications with fd but he ran away.  Did you all read it in your tea leaves?

No you havent. You avoided answering it.

What is your racial background.
You are obviously not a 'John Smith'. You are hiding your background because you are ashamed of it.



Sure I have. You're just too stupid to know where to look for the answer.

Ashamed, then, of your parents.
Carry on. Gawd knows, you will.



Careful   you're projecting again  Cheesy
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Reply #374 - Sep 5th, 2023 at 10:45pm
 
Frank wrote on Sep 5th, 2023 at 9:39pm:
So WHO are the Aborigines?

If Pascoe can be an Aborigine then anyone can be an Aborigine - which EMPTIES the concept of all meaning.

And if it is emptied of all meaning then what the **** is the point of putting such a meaningless, empty concept into the constitution?


Only in the little minds' of Racists like yourself, Soren.  Intelligent people see Indigenous people as people.  Time for you think like a 21st century person and see people as people as well.  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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