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Re: abos arent a race
Reply #390 - Sep 6^th, 2023 at 10:19am

mothra wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 1:47pm:

JC Denton wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 1:44pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 1:42pm:

JC Denton wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 1:35pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 1:33pm:

JC Denton wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 1:28pm:

replying to mothra and greatdivide is a waste of time

I kicked your arse. You had nothing. Nothing.

you didnt lol

your argument consisted of repeating the notion that supply and demand magically do not apply to australia's rental market

pumping in hundreds of thousands of migrants without regard to the pace of available rental supply will necessarily put upward pressure on prices

YOU F KING IDIOT

THAT IS GOING TO UNDENIABLY SO

how the f_ck is anyone supposed to address something so backwards ass ignorant and moronic

Is that what you got from what i said?

Poor little nazi. So oblivious.

Did you think what might have been different over the last few years that may have effected the housing market? I did give you a few clies. I was even quite bold about it.

Any land? No?

immigration is higher now than it has been in f_cking forever

rental prices stalled during covid but climbed a bit after work from home drove an increased demand for larger dwellings

then they absolutely exploded after covid when albanese started bringing in migrants to an unprecedented degree

it wouldnt be possible for you to be a more frustrating f_cktard if you tried

Rental process stalled through Covid?

You have absolutely no odea what you're talking about. It's just a sequence of lies.

Just a heads up to all..Methra posted this laughable drivel based on his/her/its landlord not renegotiating a lower amount.

Methra - anything posted by that ID should be ignored. Or laughed at. Or both.

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Re: abos arent a race
Reply #391 - Sep 6^th, 2023 at 10:56am

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 9:32am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 8:52am:

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 8:49am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 8:44am:

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 8:25am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 8:37pm:

And how would anyone know my education levels?

Because you told everyone that you didn't finish high school.

Do you deny it?

Did I? Can you show that quote?

Why would I do that John?

You prove you're not a gullible idiot.

Several people saw it John. No-one is denying it. Not even you. And it is entirely consistent with what you post here. So where is the great mystery you think I need to get to the bottom of?

Did they? Or did they make it up?

You're making gullible idiots look like geniuses Grin

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Re: abos arent a race
Reply #392 - Sep 6^th, 2023 at 10:57am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 9:22am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 8:44am:

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 8:25am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 8:37pm:

And how would anyone know my education levels?

Because you told everyone that you didn't finish high school.

Do you deny it?

Did I? Can you show that quote?

Pages of this!

Reminds me of my brother's best mate in school. Couldn't wait to turn 15 so he could leave and start his own business - in fruit and veg of all things!

Left the day he turned 15.

Made his first million before he turned 21 and now can't remember what it was like to be poor - because he was never poor - even when he didn't have any money.

My brother says he's worth something around 30 million.

I have no problem with anyone dropping out. My problem is with people making up stories and pretending they have a clue.

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Re: abos arent a race
Reply #393 - Sep 6^th, 2023 at 10:58am

Preamble to the Constitution:-

"We are one but we are many, from all the lands on earth we come... we sing with one voice - we're all Australiun ... and that includes the hunter-gatherers who once wandered the continent...."

"..and dug gold!.."

"Well - yes - the gold digging goes without saying..."

"... and hunted whales... those paintings are not just their imagination.. herh-herh..."

"... and did astronomy! They said so!"

"Don't forget their navigation skills - sun rises east, sets west - we go that way at one mile an hour ... there's a water hole there somewhere... me uncle told me!! Herh-herh!"

" ..... and they invented the Pascoe Loaf - BREAD!"

"Yeah - where would we be without the bread?!"

"All right... I'll give you the gold, the whales, the stars, the navigation at one mile an hour walking, their uncle's idea of a water hole, and the bread... but what else have the Aborigines ever brought to Australia, ay???

"Um.. the dingo - killed off the wildlife!??

"Oh - SHUDDUP!'

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Re: abos arent a race
Reply #394 - Sep 6^th, 2023 at 10:59am

Bobby. wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 9:45am:

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 9:32am:

Several people saw it John. No-one is denying it. Not even you. And it is entirely consistent with what you post here. So where is the great mystery you think I need to get to the bottom of?

I remember more now.
John was boasting of how he was far more wealthy than me
from painting houses from the age of 15.
He also thought he was more literate and smarter than me.

great, you'll have no trouble posting any of those comments then?

and EVERYONE is smarter than you so that doesn't prove anything

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Re: abos arent a race
Reply #395 - Sep 6^th, 2023 at 11:07am

Dnarever wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 10:11am:

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 9:53am:

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That would mean that they are not entitled to a mention in their constitution either ?

Would you like to elaborate on this sense of entitlement you are projecting onto others?

The argument put in the topic is that Aboriginals are not entitled to constitutional consideration because they are to some extent a mixed people not a race.

Most nationalities are mixed people. Does it not follow that these other people if judged to the same standard would also not be entitled to the same ?

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OH and by 20th century standards Aboriginals are indeed defined as a race.

So then, should we have a Voice for Indians, Chinese, Arabs, Jews, Africans etc?

If your your great great grandfather came to the Goldfields from China/Ireland/Germany/Canada in the 19th century but since then all your forebears were born here - are you still Chinese/Irish/German/Canadian?

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74303 Gender:	Re: abos arent a race Reply #397 - Sep 6^th, 2023 at 11:15am Frank wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 11:07am: So then, should we have a Voice for Indians, Chinese, Arabs, Jews, Africans etc? in 50 000 years they can ask for one.
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Re: abos arent a race
Reply #398 - Sep 6^th, 2023 at 11:15am

Frank wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 11:07am:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 10:11am:

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 9:53am:

Quote:

That would mean that they are not entitled to a mention in their constitution either ?

Would you like to elaborate on this sense of entitlement you are projecting onto others?

The argument put in the topic is that Aboriginals are not entitled to constitutional consideration because they are to some extent a mixed people not a race.

Most nationalities are mixed people. Does it not follow that these other people if judged to the same standard would also not be entitled to the same ?

...
OH and by 20th century standards Aboriginals are indeed defined as a race.

So then, should we have a Voice for Indians, Chinese, Arabs, Jews, Africans etc?

If your your great great grandfather came to the Goldfields from China/Ireland/Germany/Canada in the 19th century but since then all your forebears were born here - are you still Chinese/Irish/German/Canadian?

Do you run a course on completely missing the point ?

Any and all the people with those national backgrounds would have a solid claim if they were residents of Australia thousands of years prior to settlement.

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Re: abos arent a race
Reply #400 - Sep 6^th, 2023 at 11:24am

John Smith wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 10:56am:

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 9:32am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 8:52am:

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 8:49am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 8:44am:

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 8:25am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 8:37pm:

And how would anyone know my education levels?

Because you told everyone that you didn't finish high school.

Do you deny it?

Did I? Can you show that quote?

Why would I do that John?

You prove you're not a gullible idiot.

Several people saw it John. No-one is denying it. Not even you. And it is entirely consistent with what you post here. So where is the great mystery you think I need to get to the bottom of?

Did they? Or did they make it up?

You're making gullible idiots look like geniuses Grin

I am asking you John. I would be gullible if I believed your assertion that I need to go looking for quotes. Your tapdancing says far more than they do.

John Smith wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 10:57am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 9:22am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 8:44am:

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 8:25am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 5^th, 2023 at 8:37pm:

And how would anyone know my education levels?

Because you told everyone that you didn't finish high school.

Do you deny it?

Did I? Can you show that quote?

Pages of this!

Reminds me of my brother's best mate in school. Couldn't wait to turn 15 so he could leave and start his own business - in fruit and veg of all things!

Left the day he turned 15.

Made his first million before he turned 21 and now can't remember what it was like to be poor - because he was never poor - even when he didn't have any money.

My brother says he's worth something around 30 million.

I have no problem with anyone dropping out. My problem is with people making up stories and pretending they have a clue.

Are you accusing Bobby and Lisa of lying about you telling everyone you didn't finish high school?

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Re: abos arent a race
Reply #401 - Sep 6^th, 2023 at 11:25am

Dnarever wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 11:15am:

Any and all the people with those national backgrounds would have a solid claim if they were residents of Australia thousands of years prior to settlement.

No one alive has been resident in Australia for thousands of years.

But here's a point: if you're only 1/8th Aboriginal, should you receive only 1/8th of any Aboriginal benefits?

Given, the example above, where the other 7/8ths of your ancestry turn out to be 'oppressors', why should you receive 8/8ths of the benefits as opposed to just 1/8th?

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Reply #402 - Sep 6^th, 2023 at 11:26am

Dnarever wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 11:15am:

Frank wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 11:07am:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 10:11am:

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 9:53am:

Quote:

That would mean that they are not entitled to a mention in their constitution either ?

Would you like to elaborate on this sense of entitlement you are projecting onto others?

The argument put in the topic is that Aboriginals are not entitled to constitutional consideration because they are to some extent a mixed people not a race.

Most nationalities are mixed people. Does it not follow that these other people if judged to the same standard would also not be entitled to the same ?

...
OH and by 20th century standards Aboriginals are indeed defined as a race.

So then, should we have a Voice for Indians, Chinese, Arabs, Jews, Africans etc?

If your your great great grandfather came to the Goldfields from China/Ireland/Germany/Canada in the 19th century but since then all your forebears were born here - are you still Chinese/Irish/German/Canadian?

Do you run a course on completely missing the point ?

Any and all the people with those national backgrounds would have a solid claim if they were residents of Australia thousands of years prior to settlement.

Solid claim to what? Racial superiority?

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Re: abos arent a race
Reply #403 - Sep 6^th, 2023 at 11:27am

Dnarever wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 10:11am:

freediver wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 9:53am:

Quote:

That would mean that they are not entitled to a mention in their constitution either ?

Would you like to elaborate on this sense of entitlement you are projecting onto others?

The argument put in the topic is that Aboriginals are not entitled to constitutional consideration because they are to some extent a mixed people not a race.

No-one is entitled to special mention in the constitution. It is not the point of the document.

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People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

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