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Re: abos arent a race
Reply #600 - Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:39pm

mothra wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:38pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:33pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:19pm:

So your thread title is a lie?

The title is currently considered to be correct - it is the conclusions drawn from it that are incorrect.

During the 20th century Aboriginals were considered to be their own race, the current position is that we are all part of the human race and that there are several sub groups.

It does not mean that discrimination against Aboriginals isn't racist.

It's the same old line this lot trotted out when being wildly Islamophobic ... Muslims aren't a race.

It's bullshit intended solely to diminish racism. I'm so over pointing it out.

Is Nazism a race?

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Re: abos arent a race
Reply #601 - Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:40pm

JC Denton wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 1:15pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2023 at 1:11pm:

To claim to be 'Aboriginal' (or from any group) by ancestry, where that one ancestor is 2 or 3 times removed, is a statement of socio-cultural affinity, not a reference to exact DNA alignment with full-blood aboriginal DNA.

but sometimes they have absolutely no aboriginal ancestors at all

you can still be recognised as aboriginal with no ancestry, as long as you receive community recognition etc

so aboriginals are definitionally not really a race at all anymore, but some sort of social club

Aboriginality has cultural, social and religious dimensions that give it legitimacy.

This is exactly how NZ Maoris are defined given there are no Maoris alive today who are not also part non-Maori descent.

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Re: abos arent a race
Reply #602 - Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:40pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:36pm:

JC Denton wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:13pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 11:29am:

JC Denton wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 11:19am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 4:56pm:

'Racial' characteristics used as a means to define character, in the 21st century, is moribund.

DNA, like a dry sponge wetted in one corner, will infuse throughout.

'Race' is a discredited pseudo-science.

you are an absolute f_cking nong

From the perspective of DNA, there is no pure 'racial' anyone, making the concept of 'race' moribund and the least credible determiner of anything about a people other than for unjustified prejudical purposes.

Prior to the late 20th century, 'race' was once all we had to define a people's sensibility by physical characteristics alone which, by pre-20th-century discriminatory standards, were wrongly associated with moral character, personality and status.

you don't know what you're talking about idiot

it is irrelevant if there is no supposedly 'pure' anything for rational and common sense categorisation to be able to occur

you are so f_cking stupid man, just like your moronic predictions about ukraine everything you say is so unbelievably cretinous and delivered with an extremely undeserved overconfidence

'rational and common sense categorisation', eh! Like what?

imagine being so dumb you have to ask this

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Re: abos arent a race
Reply #603 - Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:41pm

Dnarever wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:33pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:19pm:

So your thread title is a lie?

The title is currently considered to be correct - it is the conclusions drawn from it that are incorrect.

During the 20th century Aboriginals were considered to be their own race, the current position is that we are all part of the human race and that there are several sub groups.

It does not mean that discrimination against Aboriginals isn't racist.

They are still considered to be their own race. That is how we manage to create racist laws specifically for them.

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Re: abos arent a race
Reply #604 - Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:41pm

JC Denton wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:40pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:36pm:

JC Denton wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:13pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 11:29am:

JC Denton wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 11:19am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 4:56pm:

'Racial' characteristics used as a means to define character, in the 21st century, is moribund.

DNA, like a dry sponge wetted in one corner, will infuse throughout.

'Race' is a discredited pseudo-science.

you are an absolute f_cking nong

From the perspective of DNA, there is no pure 'racial' anyone, making the concept of 'race' moribund and the least credible determiner of anything about a people other than for unjustified prejudical purposes.

Prior to the late 20th century, 'race' was once all we had to define a people's sensibility by physical characteristics alone which, by pre-20th-century discriminatory standards, were wrongly associated with moral character, personality and status.

you don't know what you're talking about idiot

it is irrelevant if there is no supposedly 'pure' anything for rational and common sense categorisation to be able to occur

you are so f_cking stupid man, just like your moronic predictions about ukraine everything you say is so unbelievably cretinous and delivered with an extremely undeserved overconfidence

'rational and common sense categorisation', eh! Like what?

imagine being so dumb you have to ask this

Then you should have no trouble answering the question.

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Re: abos arent a race
Reply #605 - Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:42pm

freediver wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:41pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:33pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:19pm:

So your thread title is a lie?

The title is currently considered to be correct - it is the conclusions drawn from it that are incorrect.

During the 20th century Aboriginals were considered to be their own race, the current position is that we are all part of the human race and that there are several sub groups.

It does not mean that discrimination against Aboriginals isn't racist.

They are still considered to be their own race. That is how we manage to create racist laws specifically for them.

We've been creating racist laws for them for 250 years. Why so butt-hurt now all of a suuden?

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Re: abos arent a race
Reply #606 - Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:45pm

mothra wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:42pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:41pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:33pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:19pm:

So your thread title is a lie?

The title is currently considered to be correct - it is the conclusions drawn from it that are incorrect.

During the 20th century Aboriginals were considered to be their own race, the current position is that we are all part of the human race and that there are several sub groups.

It does not mean that discrimination against Aboriginals isn't racist.

They are still considered to be their own race. That is how we manage to create racist laws specifically for them.

We've been creating racist laws for them for 250 years. Why so butt-hurt now all of a suuden?

I wasn't around 250 years ago Mothra. Were you?

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Re: abos arent a race
Reply #607 - Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:45pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:41pm:

JC Denton wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:40pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:36pm:

JC Denton wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:13pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 11:29am:

JC Denton wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 11:19am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 4:56pm:

'Racial' characteristics used as a means to define character, in the 21st century, is moribund.

DNA, like a dry sponge wetted in one corner, will infuse throughout.

'Race' is a discredited pseudo-science.

you are an absolute f_cking nong

From the perspective of DNA, there is no pure 'racial' anyone, making the concept of 'race' moribund and the least credible determiner of anything about a people other than for unjustified prejudical purposes.

Prior to the late 20th century, 'race' was once all we had to define a people's sensibility by physical characteristics alone which, by pre-20th-century discriminatory standards, were wrongly associated with moral character, personality and status.

you don't know what you're talking about idiot

it is irrelevant if there is no supposedly 'pure' anything for rational and common sense categorisation to be able to occur

you are so f_cking stupid man, just like your moronic predictions about ukraine everything you say is so unbelievably cretinous and delivered with an extremely undeserved overconfidence

'rational and common sense categorisation', eh! Like what?

imagine being so dumb you have to ask this

Then you should have no trouble answering the question.

what kinds of characteristics do you think groups that are typically considered to be human sub-groups tend to have in common

-common continental ancestry
-common shared phenotypic traits
-common genotypic markers
-common grouped clustered ancestry

durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

but keep pretending you can't tell the difference between a negro and a caucasian, though it wouldn't surprise me that you actually couldn't you would be flat out distinguishing between a python and a garden hose

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Re: abos arent a race
Reply #608 - Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:46pm

mothra wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:42pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:41pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:33pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:19pm:

So your thread title is a lie?

The title is currently considered to be correct - it is the conclusions drawn from it that are incorrect.

During the 20th century Aboriginals were considered to be their own race, the current position is that we are all part of the human race and that there are several sub groups.

It does not mean that discrimination against Aboriginals isn't racist.

They are still considered to be their own race. That is how we manage to create racist laws specifically for them.

We've been creating racist laws for them for 250 years. Why so butt-hurt now all of a suuden?

what is with your rivalry with lisa? did you really rock up to stalk john smith or whoever in person?

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Re: abos arent a race
Reply #609 - Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:47pm

freediver wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:45pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:42pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:41pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:33pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:19pm:

So your thread title is a lie?

The title is currently considered to be correct - it is the conclusions drawn from it that are incorrect.

During the 20th century Aboriginals were considered to be their own race, the current position is that we are all part of the human race and that there are several sub groups.

It does not mean that discrimination against Aboriginals isn't racist.

They are still considered to be their own race. That is how we manage to create racist laws specifically for them.

We've been creating racist laws for them for 250 years. Why so butt-hurt now all of a suuden?

I wasn't around 250 years ago Mothra. Were you?

Around for any of it?

It's a continuum, you know.

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Re: abos arent a race
Reply #611 - Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:49pm

mothra wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:47pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:45pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:42pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:41pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:33pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:19pm:

So your thread title is a lie?

The title is currently considered to be correct - it is the conclusions drawn from it that are incorrect.

During the 20th century Aboriginals were considered to be their own race, the current position is that we are all part of the human race and that there are several sub groups.

It does not mean that discrimination against Aboriginals isn't racist.

They are still considered to be their own race. That is how we manage to create racist laws specifically for them.

We've been creating racist laws for them for 250 years. Why so butt-hurt now all of a suuden?

I wasn't around 250 years ago Mothra. Were you?

Around for any of it?

It's a continuum, you know.

Good question Mothra. I have been around my whole life.

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Re: abos arent a race
Reply #612 - Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:49pm

JC Denton wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:46pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:42pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:41pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:33pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:19pm:

So your thread title is a lie?

The title is currently considered to be correct - it is the conclusions drawn from it that are incorrect.

During the 20th century Aboriginals were considered to be their own race, the current position is that we are all part of the human race and that there are several sub groups.

It does not mean that discrimination against Aboriginals isn't racist.

They are still considered to be their own race. That is how we manage to create racist laws specifically for them.

We've been creating racist laws for them for 250 years. Why so butt-hurt now all of a suuden?

what is with your rivalry with lisa? did you really rock up to stalk john smith or whoever in person?

As i keep saying, anyone who believes Larry deserves to. And i can think of no worthier candidate than you.

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Re: abos arent a race
Reply #613 - Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:50pm

mothra wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:42pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:41pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:33pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:19pm:

So your thread title is a lie?

The title is currently considered to be correct - it is the conclusions drawn from it that are incorrect.

During the 20th century Aboriginals were considered to be their own race, the current position is that we are all part of the human race and that there are several sub groups.

It does not mean that discrimination against Aboriginals isn't racist.

They are still considered to be their own race. That is how we manage to create racist laws specifically for them.

We've been creating racist laws for them for 250 years. Why so butt-hurt now all of a suuden?

'Race' was a presumed science until the 20th century.

It's no surprise that people worldwide prior to the 20th century discriminated by 'race', most perniciously by the presumed 'scientific' notion of 'racial' moral, social and religious superiority predicated on 'race'.
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Re: abos arent a race
Reply #614 - Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:50pm

mothra wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:49pm:

JC Denton wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:46pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:42pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:41pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:33pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 7^th, 2023 at 12:19pm:

So your thread title is a lie?

The title is currently considered to be correct - it is the conclusions drawn from it that are incorrect.

During the 20th century Aboriginals were considered to be their own race, the current position is that we are all part of the human race and that there are several sub groups.

It does not mean that discrimination against Aboriginals isn't racist.

They are still considered to be their own race. That is how we manage to create racist laws specifically for them.

We've been creating racist laws for them for 250 years. Why so butt-hurt now all of a suuden?

what is with your rivalry with lisa? did you really rock up to stalk john smith or whoever in person?

As i keep saying, anyone who believes Larry deserves to. And i can think of no worthier candidate than you.

i'm not saying i necessarily believe her or you, just curious where all of this came from

it's clear there's some horrible acrimony between the members here who came from yahoo, it's a telling website of origin for you lot given you're all a pack of obvious yahoos yourselves

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