Lisa Jones
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Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 7 th, 2023 at 1:19pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 7 th, 2023 at 1:11pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 7 th, 2023 at 1:05pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 7 th, 2023 at 12:54pm: JC Denton wrote on Sep 7 th, 2023 at 12:45pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 7 th, 2023 at 12:41pm: JC Denton wrote on Sep 7 th, 2023 at 12:40pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 7 th, 2023 at 12:36pm: JC Denton wrote on Sep 7 th, 2023 at 12:13pm: MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 7 th, 2023 at 11:29am: JC Denton wrote on Sep 7 th, 2023 at 11:19am: MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 6 th, 2023 at 4:56pm: 'Racial' characteristics used as a means to define character, in the 21st century, is moribund.
DNA, like a dry sponge wetted in one corner, will infuse throughout.
'Race' is a discredited pseudo-science. you are an absolute f_cking nong From the perspective of DNA, there is no pure 'racial' anyone, making the concept of 'race' moribund and the least credible determiner of anything about a people other than for unjustified prejudical purposes. Prior to the late 20th century, 'race' was once all we had to define a people's sensibility by physical characteristics alone which, by pre-20th-century discriminatory standards, were wrongly associated with moral character, personality and status. you don't know what you're talking about idiot it is irrelevant if there is no supposedly 'pure' anything for rational and common sense categorisation to be able to occur you are so f_cking stupid man, just like your moronic predictions about ukraine everything you say is so unbelievably cretinous and delivered with an extremely undeserved overconfidence 'rational and common sense categorisation', eh! Like what? imagine being so dumb you have to ask this Then you should have no trouble answering the question. what kinds of characteristics do you think groups that are typically considered to be human sub-groups tend to have in common -common continental ancestry -common shared phenotypic traits -common genotypic markers -common grouped clustered ancestry durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr but keep pretending you can't tell the difference between a negro and a caucasian, though it wouldn't surprise me that you actually couldn't you would be flat out distinguishing between a python and a garden hose Those aren't 'racial' categories. They are geographical estimates of likely ancestral location. And there are anomalies everywhere. Have you ever had your DNA analyzed? You might get a shock. Populations have been moving around (since time immemorial) looking for water etc. Water is what can make or break a civilisation. At some stage this reality will need to be factored into this discussion. As can access to shelter and food resources. We are all only ever a few weeks away from death by exposure, starvation and dehydration. Precisely. I was also thinking of the Mayans (we watch a lot of History Channel here ... in fact 1 of our TVs is permanently locked onto that channel lol). Meister : I’ve got to get back to my wifey chores here wrt laundry, watering gardens and prepping dinner for tonight. I’ll come back online to tell you something interesting re last night’s dinner conversation which centred on Aborigines/Referendum issues. It’s quite interesting in that as individuals we are receiving the same information but we can and do interpret the same data quite differently ... even within the same nuclear family unit. Ok back for a bit.
The conversation we had as a family last night over dinner was pretty much about Aborigines and the upcoming referendum.
Before long ...the discussion started tearing off in all directions and a few members starting getting angry/upset. It was quite bizarre...and I could not help but notice the parallels btwn the Aboriginal Sub Forum of OzPol and our family (a microcosm of sorts).
What did that conversation ultimately yield?
Division Disappointment Disagreement Depression Disgust
We couldn’t even establish definitions. WTF is an aboriginal TODAY? Well we (eventually) worked out that the important/operative word isn’t “Aboriginal”...it’s “TODAY”.
And this is probably what’s at the heart of so much conflict. You can’t focus on the past in order to move forward. You have to focus on the NOW...on the TODAY.
We also had the mother of all arguments on why Aborigines are so backward wrt technology etc compared to other cultures. Again so many different reasons were put forward - some to explain it...others to justify it even. So things like Australia being so remote and isolated on this large island that the Aborigines couldn’t trade like Europeans did (with each other and with those in Anatolia). Again the point was made that even so ... Maori’s were more advanced and organised. The question of how ALL these groups first migrated out of China yet China moved on and even discovered gun powder etc.
Anyway at this point in time: we are all voting No (except for my Left Wing hubby who’s still undecided).
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