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Reply #660 - Sep 7th, 2023 at 10:12pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 10:03pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 10:02pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 8:47pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 6:29pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 5:49pm:
What would you demand if someone else asked the same question?


The same thing, your qualifications.


You wouldn't tell them to look for the quote?



No need



John,
you're lucky the search engine is so poor.   Embarrassed



Fd knows how to use it. Ask him to help you
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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.
 
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Reply #661 - Sep 7th, 2023 at 10:15pm
 
John Smith wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 10:04pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 8:35pm:
Dnarever wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 8:29pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 8:02pm:
Frank wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 7:33pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 6:29pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 5:49pm:
What would you demand if someone else asked the same question?


The same thing, your qualifications.

Well, you cant ask for a refund for your high school fees as you haven't done any high school, thick-as, so that's a saving for you.
You blew the fees on garlic cannoli and Thai witchety grubs, didnya, little thicko of shameful provenance. Ey?!  Any Leb in ya, cuz?




His dealer is a Leb. Does that count?


How unusual the righties all lining up in a group to bash someone for 10 pages.

And they all think that are clever.


Not at all.

Thicko Gino is a snarling, the arrogant git and invites - and deserves - all the bollicking he gets.

You don't get that treatment, ducky, because you are just an idiot without the snarling arrogance.





You think I'm getting a bollocking? Grin


Only a blissfully unaware tragic tosspot like you Five Foot Frodo would even post that. Especially after your ID and all its garbage it has posted...has been dragged through the mud and chucked in the gutter.
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Reply #662 - Sep 7th, 2023 at 10:16pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 9:42pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 9:01pm:
Dnarever wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 8:55pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 8:49pm:
Anyway - Mabo Island was deemed to not be Terra Nullius - maybe the rest wasn't either.... though the concept applied to no government etc - no civilisation - to deal with.... Mabo Island was a unique small place with a single group living on it...

No matter which way you roll that drunk, a group wandering across a swathe of land while never civilising it or forming government simply cannot claim all that land as their own.... doesn't work that way.

They may only claim the small bit they are/were on at the time the joint was civilised .... let's bury this hatchet properly ....


You know that when Cook claimed Australia he held about 10 square yards of land sand at Kurnell right ?


Puddle Duck : Not only are you unable to construct English sentences correctly (despite the fact that English IS your alleged 1st language)...you also know SFA about Australian history.

Which brings me to this question :

Did you, Puddle Duck, finish Primary School? Your answer is either a yes or a no.



Where did Cook claim Australia?

Possession Island

In 1770 Lieutenant James Cook, captain of the ship the HMS Endeavour, climbed to the highest point of Possession Island and claimed the east coast of the Australian continent for Britain, naming it New South Wales.



And you think this changes the substance of the point how? he wasn't even on the Australian mainland.



Well for starters it shows how ignorant and clueless you are about simple facts regarding your own country’s history. I’m just glad I was able to show you how tragically unaware you are. Hopefully it will get your pwned arse into gear so that you will do something about it.


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Reply #663 - Sep 7th, 2023 at 10:43pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 10:12pm:
Dnarever wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 9:42pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 9:01pm:
Dnarever wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 8:55pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 8:49pm:
Anyway - Mabo Island was deemed to not be Terra Nullius - maybe the rest wasn't either.... though the concept applied to no government etc - no civilisation - to deal with.... Mabo Island was a unique small place with a single group living on it...

No matter which way you roll that drunk, a group wandering across a swathe of land while never civilising it or forming government simply cannot claim all that land as their own.... doesn't work that way.

They may only claim the small bit they are/were on at the time the joint was civilised .... let's bury this hatchet properly ....


You know that when Cook claimed Australia he held about 10 square yards of land sand at Kurnell right ?


Puddle Duck : Not only are you unable to construct English sentences correctly (despite the fact that English IS your alleged 1st language)...you also know SFA about Australian history.

Which brings me to this question :

Did you, Puddle Duck, finish Primary School? Your answer is either a yes or a no.



Where did Cook claim Australia?

Possession Island

In 1770 Lieutenant James Cook, captain of the ship the HMS Endeavour, climbed to the highest point of Possession Island and claimed the east coast of the Australian continent for Britain, naming it New South Wales.



And you think this changes the substance of the point how? he wasn't even on the Australian mainland.



Well for starters it shows how ignorant and clueless you are about simple facts regarding your own country’s history. I’m just glad I was able to show you how tragically unaware you are. Hopefully it will get your pwned arse into gear so that you will do something about it.




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no civilisation - to deal with.... Mabo Island was a unique small place with a single group living on it...

No matter which way you roll that drunk, a group wandering across a swathe of land while never civilising it or forming government simply cannot claim all that land as their own.... doesn't work that way.


This is the standard under comparison.

Cooks primary landing was at Kurnell - not the only landing.

When Cook claimed Australia he had no greater holding or presence in Australia than the Aboriginals in this comparison but a lot less than the Aboriginals in general.

What I said isn't incorrect in the context. Your inability to understand what was said is different.

Maybe stick to running you team of kindy grade bullies.
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Reply #664 - Sep 7th, 2023 at 10:52pm
 
The Spanish lay claim to this region long before the British.
Fact.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Re: abos arent a race
Reply #665 - Sep 7th, 2023 at 11:06pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 10:43pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 10:12pm:
Dnarever wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 9:42pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 9:01pm:
Dnarever wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 8:55pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 8:49pm:
Anyway - Mabo Island was deemed to not be Terra Nullius - maybe the rest wasn't either.... though the concept applied to no government etc - no civilisation - to deal with.... Mabo Island was a unique small place with a single group living on it...

No matter which way you roll that drunk, a group wandering across a swathe of land while never civilising it or forming government simply cannot claim all that land as their own.... doesn't work that way.

They may only claim the small bit they are/were on at the time the joint was civilised .... let's bury this hatchet properly ....


You know that when Cook claimed Australia he held about 10 square yards of land sand at Kurnell right ?


Puddle Duck : Not only are you unable to construct English sentences correctly (despite the fact that English IS your alleged 1st language)...you also know SFA about Australian history.

Which brings me to this question :

Did you, Puddle Duck, finish Primary School? Your answer is either a yes or a no.



Where did Cook claim Australia?

Possession Island

In 1770 Lieutenant James Cook, captain of the ship the HMS Endeavour, climbed to the highest point of Possession Island and claimed the east coast of the Australian continent for Britain, naming it New South Wales.



And you think this changes the substance of the point how? he wasn't even on the Australian mainland.



Well for starters it shows how ignorant and clueless you are about simple facts regarding your own country’s history. I’m just glad I was able to show you how tragically unaware you are. Hopefully it will get your pwned arse into gear so that you will do something about it.




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no civilisation - to deal with.... Mabo Island was a unique small place with a single group living on it...

No matter which way you roll that drunk, a group wandering across a swathe of land while never civilising it or forming government simply cannot claim all that land as their own.... doesn't work that way.


This is the standard under comparison.

Cooks primary landing was at Kurnell - not the only landing.



No Dumbarse ... that isn’t the standard at all. It’s where YOU went horribly wrong because you haven’t a clue about Australian history. Here these were your own words tosspot 👇


You know that when Cook claimed Australia he held about 10 square yards of land sand at Kurnell right ?


This was my reply to your actual mistake  (you do forget what’s posted at you so I’ll have to remind you again sigh)

Where did Cook claim Australia?

Possession Island

In 1770 Lieutenant James Cook, captain of the ship the HMS Endeavour, climbed to the highest point of Possession Island and claimed the east coast of the Australian continent for Britain, naming it New South Wales.

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Reply #666 - Sep 7th, 2023 at 11:11pm
 
Jasin wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 10:52pm:
The Spanish lay claim to this region long before the British.
Fact.


A few countries arrived earlier Xav.

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Reply #667 - Sep 8th, 2023 at 3:27am
 
https://navyhistory.au/possession-island/
'This indicates the significance of the event was after days of being locked by reef strewn passages they had at last found a way clear and were on their way home, and had nothing to do with annexation'.

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Reply #668 - Sep 8th, 2023 at 5:42am
 
"You know that when Cook claimed Australia he held about 10 square yards of land sand at Kurnell right ?"

Thank you for proving my case - that the old colonial concept of claiming vast swathes of land no longer holds sway, and thus each and every one of the claims made by the claimed descendants of a small and wandering group to vast swathes of land have no power today and cannot be set 'right' within that same failed context.

The rules have changed - now you may not colonise settled countries - and thus your heroic wanderers must accept that under no circumstances can they possess any more than 3% of the nation, and can only do so by the current rules of possession.

Takes a while for some of you to get around your own circle, and back to what I posited months ago - that nowadays no person or group can arbitrarily lay claim to any swathe of land simply by looking at it from a high point - you must purchase land these days and you can't just grab it from your neighbours via lawfare or any other kind of warfare.

It doesn't matter that you claim to have been here first, all three of you out of possibly a hundred or more - that no longer applies, and the world is not going to get out of the way or your dinky car on the highways of life.

On another note, this is a fine example of the intrinsic and fatal contradictions of the 'progressive left' - apparently as long as you are of the right colour or creed, it was perfectly in order to just claim huge lands and hold them by killing off any opposition and literally genociding many such in doing so - tribal wars were brutal - but if you are of another colour or creed that is now the majority, you had no such right.

As I said - I've just been reading Bernard Keane's book 'The Mess We're In' - a fine collection of often flawed and often self-contradicting essays - and one which clearly demonstrates his privileged Eastern Surburbs Catholic schooling with all its benefits and pitfalls.... among those pitfalls being the never-ending shoulder chip of the Catholic here, the dogged determination that a religious based education must be the only correct one, and the imbuing with its acolytes with the quite incredible belief that since their word is descended from god himself, they cannot be wrong, no matter how often and in how many ways they are proven to be so.

My first major introduction to such Catholic sufferers was some with whom I played Rugby - you could see the domineering way the schooling approach of the (most often) priest teacher classes had pervaded, via the socialisation/osmotic process I've described elsewhere, their thinking and given them a sense of holy self-righteousness way out of kilter with the reality of their thinking and action and results.  Quite literally, many such acolytes are 'acting out' the very behaviour of their 'oppressor' - that apparently rigid and unbending and perhaps criminal person who compelled them to 'learn' in a certain way, and offered them, in education, the same kind of 'certainties' that the religion apparently did.

Told yez never to touch the crosses of a civilised man... so many different faces of (in)humanity to confront ... in this Keep it is not the demon that is kept prisoner lest he inflict dire harm on the entire world - it is the Angel component of humanity that is being held in the tower and hidden behind an iron mask.....  Never Touch The Crosses - NEVER!  You may find it impossible to control that which you release.... and Angelism has no place in modern society on this planet... you have to admit - the 21th Century was all the Demon's!  And the lying down of the Western Beowulf with the feminist Demon compels us to this day to deal with the bastard offspring of the unholy union... even Keane manages to allude to that in his book, without reaching the final conclusion therein, but remaining mired in the blame game against All Old White Men like some White Male Mothra......

NEVER touch the crosses - you are not capable of following the intellect and mind of the Angel you will unleash .... not fit to follow in his footsteps...
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Reply #669 - Sep 8th, 2023 at 5:47am
 
chimera wrote on Sep 8th, 2023 at 3:27am:
Then standing in far north Queensland off the coast, James from England took control of Tasmania? And west to central Australia? That makes sense, the Spanish knew that, as they were given all Americas and the Portuguese held the Pope's Asia. They enjoyed the red hot branding iron to mark slaves who were the land owners.
The Royal Australian Navy has doubts, however. Cook was a dud and didn't send the continent to George III.
https://navyhistory.au/possession-island/
'This indicates the significance of the event was after days of being locked by reef strewn passages they had at last found a way clear and were on their way home, and had nothing to do with annexation'.


Same-same - you cannot outlaw that kind of colonial taking of possession and reinstall a pre-dating far worse and less organised and civlised and more destructive and truly genocidal taking of possession of vast swathes of land by force simply to walk over it and pick up lunch ..... a just cause, you say?  Just Cause They Could - they had more spears and spared nobody in their tribal conflicts.

ALL such claims now hold no merit............... so we are forced to accept the majority rule that pervade society today.  Look at South Africa..... ** falls about laughing** ... at least here we don't condone and promote murder of our minorities and the theft of all their property - not as the ruling 97% we don't.  Unlike the Africa for African types we're civilised............
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Reply #670 - Sep 8th, 2023 at 7:09am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 8:49pm:
They may only claim the small bit they are/were on at the time the joint was civilised

Interesting. Britain gets the Opera House. Each Aboriginal family clan that governed the territory they walked around can claim that land. This includes at Kurnell and Possession Island. (And Canberra).
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Reply #671 - Sep 8th, 2023 at 9:58am
 
Mothra has a sock puppet on here called donincognito

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=donincognito

How many more does she have? 

Mothra - confess - wipe the slate clean of your clandestine activities -
tell us all the names.
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Reply #672 - Sep 8th, 2023 at 10:07am
 
John Smith wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 10:02pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 8:47pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 6:29pm:
freediver wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 5:49pm:
What would you demand if someone else asked the same question?


The same thing, your qualifications.


You wouldn't tell them to look for the quote?



No need


Because you aren't denying it? You seemed fairly insistent before.
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Reply #673 - Sep 8th, 2023 at 10:20am
 
chimera wrote on Sep 8th, 2023 at 7:09am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 7th, 2023 at 8:49pm:
They may only claim the small bit they are/were on at the time the joint was civilised

Interesting. Britain gets the Opera House. Each Aboriginal family clan that governed the territory they walked around can claim that land. This includes at Kurnell and Possession Island. (And Canberra).
by Grappler.



So this now includes a specific date and time at which point Civilisation began here?  Nay, sir - Civilisation is a long and extended process... in the mean time all must abide by the same rules - you cannot lay colonial imperialist claim to any swathe of land just by looking it over... you must purchase it with hard cash - therefore it is meet that the many Aborigines live in rented State housing, don' cha think?  They CANNOT claim that swathe of land that they may have walked on - but only the bit they are in at that point, and fighting over it like children voids their claim to be treated as civilised.... .

It's a modest, fair and generous offer....... not even A4 long and on my office wall.....   Cool  Cool
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Reply #674 - Sep 8th, 2023 at 10:22am
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 8th, 2023 at 9:58am:
Mothra has a sock puppet on here called donincognito

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=donincognito

How many more does she have? 

Mothra - confess - wipe the slate clean of your clandestine activities -
tell us all the names.


Don Incongrueto?  I thought that character was dead, cremated and scattered to the four winds....
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