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thegreatdivide Gold Member Offline Australian Politics<br /> Posts: 12644 Gender:	Re: abos arent a race Reply #780 - Sep 11^th, 2023 at 5:41pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 11^th, 2023 at 5:37pm: Here's the voice, you can't understand it Vote it down and make it clear Vote no-oo-o-o-o-o.. Graps....edging ever closer to the Top Fraud on Ozpolitics award.
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Reply #781 - Sep 11^th, 2023 at 5:43pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 11^th, 2023 at 5:40pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 11^th, 2023 at 5:29pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 11^th, 2023 at 2:12pm:

Last chance dividie - how are YOU going to close the gaps? Just create jobs out of doing nothing and just pay them out there for doing nothing? Change the entire economic structure to suit your oddball ideas that have never worked yet or your half-baked interpretations of Keynes and such?

Last chance: listen up, or join Ozpolitics' top frauds like Lisa and Fraudiver.

1. Close the poverty/welfare industry, and its hangers-on bureaucracy, ASAP.

2. Understand the concept of useful work (even necessary work currently done by 'volunteers').

3. Organize such work via the local council, with wages funded by the national (currency-issuing) govt.

4. As communities achieve independence and development through work, more individuals will be able to transition to the market economy, as they save and take on extra training.

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Get a life.

FYI I already have one, promoting the new economics required in the post climate-change world (see today's MMT posts).

PS re Keynes: it was only at the end of his life he understood the implications of fiat currencies NOT based on the gold standard. And post WW2 Keynesianism (established after Keynes died), worked well for a time,
creating the "golden age of capitalism", until the Arab oil embargo and competition from low wage Asia spoilt the party, as the economy became globalized.

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Gosh, graps has gone to sleep while attempting to reply....

Not surprising, really.

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thegreatdivide Gold Member Offline Australian Politics<br /> Posts: 12644 Gender:	Re: abos arent a race Reply #782 - Sep 11^th, 2023 at 5:43pm .
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 84012 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: abos arent a race Reply #783 - Sep 11^th, 2023 at 6:03pm zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 84012 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: abos arent a race Reply #784 - Sep 11^th, 2023 at 6:03pm zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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thegreatdivide Gold Member Offline Australian Politics<br /> Posts: 12644 Gender:	Re: abos arent a race Reply #785 - Sep 11^th, 2023 at 6:05pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 11^th, 2023 at 6:03pm: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Wow, graps can press reply while he's asleep. No doubt a reptilian brain reflex.
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thegreatdivide Gold Member Offline Australian Politics<br /> Posts: 12644 Gender:	Re: abos arent a race Reply #786 - Sep 11^th, 2023 at 6:05pm .
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 84012 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: abos arent a race Reply #787 - Sep 11^th, 2023 at 6:05pm Practical - on the ground measures and when are you going to start instead of talking? First get your Cheer off his arse... but you reckon that oppression by a socio-economic structure to which NONE of us here sub scribe other than in your imagination..... how old are you again?
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 84012 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: abos arent a race Reply #788 - Sep 11^th, 2023 at 6:05pm zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74319 Gender:	Re: abos arent a race Reply #789 - Sep 11^th, 2023 at 6:08pm has crappler totally lost it? Talking to himself and even then it's just to tell himself he's asleep
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Re: abos arent a race
Reply #790 - Sep 11^th, 2023 at 6:16pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 11^th, 2023 at 6:05pm:

Practical - on the ground measures and when are you going to start instead of talking?

Talking? It's a whole of government approach which is required, to get rid of the welfare/poverty industry ( as noted in step 1.

You ofcourse can't contemplate the concept of useful work which is non market based - though a lot of greed-driven, market based employment is worse than useless, when it destroys health and wealth, eg the sugary soft-drinks industry responsible for the diabetes and obesity epidemic.

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First get your Cheer off his arse... but you reckon that oppression by a socio-economic structure to which NONE of us here sub scribe other than in your imagination..... how old are you again?

To be exact: the poverty/welfare industry to which you subscribe - which undoubtedly costs more than a job guarantee, in the long run.

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thegreatdivide Gold Member Offline Australian Politics<br /> Posts: 12644 Gender:	Re: abos arent a race Reply #791 - Sep 11^th, 2023 at 6:17pm .
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Reply #792 - Sep 11^th, 2023 at 6:49pm

"You of course can't contemplate the concept of useful work which is non market based"..

What nonsense... I understand fully the value of REAL art, and have spent some time on the barricades as a professional actor myself so I know full well the value of 'non market based' work.... clearly you don't know what it is other than some theoretical (gasps) social construct.... and you've never once been there for real......

Michelangelo painted the Cistine Chapel (Mickie! when are you gonna finish?) for lodging and meals and a bit of spending money.... not some huge commission rate....

Now then - about the TRUE value of those 'archeological' searches (not digs etc) in Aboland way out west ....

..... (breaks into song) .....VOICE - the Musical ................ (where the rain don't fall, got a job with a uni group that don't dig at all... and I ain't gonna leave, money's good when bludging on the la-and...)....

..... so... errr... what do you bunch of girls in them white man's boats do? Oh, we check on the Reef..... livin' an' a-workin' on the sea, you know... well, what special skills did you bring to the job.... well - they had to teach us .... any unemployed kid of any colour in this area of shortage of jobs could do it and love the work.... but they reserved it for Abos.... oppressed species, you know....

What about you, Jackie-Jackie at the bar there? ... Oh, I'm a ranger at Mount Warning.... What? But there are no tourists etc.... it's blocked off...... Yeah - easy money that, eh?

.. Livin' and a bummin' off the lend.....

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 84012 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: abos arent a race Reply #793 - Sep 11^th, 2023 at 6:49pm thegreatdivide wrote on Sep 11^th, 2023 at 6:17pm: . zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 84012 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: abos arent a race Reply #794 - Sep 11^th, 2023 at 6:55pm
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