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JC Denton Gold Member Offline Posts: 5471 Gender:	Re: welcome to country Reply #15 - Sep 6^th, 2023 at 6:28pm thank you for actually addressing the topic if anyone else has any experiences with WtC please feel free to share
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Reply #16 - Sep 6^th, 2023 at 7:13pm

Frank wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 5:59pm:

JC Denton wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 4:21pm:

have you ever been welcomed to country at your job

what did they do

how long does it normally last

how often do you have to endure it etc

does it annoy you

It is a silly charade. I have been to meetings at most universities and a fair few state and federal departments and there is an unspoken protocol for acknowledging country. It is largely about perceptions, 'optics'.
It is never done when you are meeting within an organisational unit or for a specific purpose with one or two sets of outsiders. Then it's business.

My son has to take turns in chairing meetings as they rotate the chair, it was like a stroke hit many at once when he was told to acknowledge country and he said pretty much, "yeah, nah, my country too. Let's get on with the business."

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Reply #17 - Sep 6^th, 2023 at 7:17pm

Setanta wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 7:13pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 5:59pm:

JC Denton wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 4:21pm:

have you ever been welcomed to country at your job

what did they do

how long does it normally last

how often do you have to endure it etc

does it annoy you

It is a silly charade. I have been to meetings at most universities and a fair few state and federal departments and there is an unspoken protocol for acknowledging country. It is largely about perceptions, 'optics'.
It is never done when you are meeting within an organisational unit or for a specific purpose with one or two sets of outsiders. Then it's business.

My son has to take turns in chairing meetings as they rotate the chair, it was like a stroke hit many at once when he was told to acknowledge country and he said pretty much, "yeah, nah, my country too. Let's get on with the business."

If you're Afrikaans, (or imagine yourself to be), how did that work out for you and your kinfolk?

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Reply #18 - Sep 6^th, 2023 at 7:18pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 7:17pm:

Setanta wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 7:13pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 5:59pm:

JC Denton wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 4:21pm:

have you ever been welcomed to country at your job

what did they do

how long does it normally last

how often do you have to endure it etc

does it annoy you

It is a silly charade. I have been to meetings at most universities and a fair few state and federal departments and there is an unspoken protocol for acknowledging country. It is largely about perceptions, 'optics'.
It is never done when you are meeting within an organisational unit or for a specific purpose with one or two sets of outsiders. Then it's business.

My son has to take turns in chairing meetings as they rotate the chair, it was like a stroke hit many at once when he was told to acknowledge country and he said pretty much, "yeah, nah, my country too. Let's get on with the business."

If you're Afrikaans, (or imagine yourself to be), how did that work for you?

I'm not and I don't imagine myself to be and your question makes no sense at all. Perhaps rephrase it?

Edit: I get it...

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Reply #19 - Sep 6^th, 2023 at 7:32pm

None of the people performing welcome to country - a recent invention by Ernie Dingo - is in any position to claim any country or any authority to welcome, or not, anyone to it.

Every Aboriginal ritual, pronouncement, legal claim etc is totally anachronistic. Totally.

Every single claim, of any kind, made by Aborigines is totally inexpressible in any Aboriginal language or conceptual universe.

Everything they say, every concept, every legal basis, every grievance is entirely British. As are most of them, much more than Aboriginal.
The best ones, like Price, acknowledge it upfront.
The worst, like Livid Thorpe, hide it.

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Reply #20 - Sep 6^th, 2023 at 7:37pm

Frank wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 7:32pm:

None of the people performing welcome to country - a recent invention by Ernie Dingo - is in any position to claim any country or any authority to welcome, or not, anyone to it.

Every Aboriginal ritual, pronouncement, legal claim etc is totally anachronistic. Totally.

Every single claim, of any kind, made by Aborigines is totally inexpressible in any Aboriginal language or conceptual universe.

Everything they say, every concept, every legal basis, every grievance is entirely British.

I think the acknowledgement of country is more ubiquitous, it's in workplaces for meeting, it's in parliament, the ABC, etc. There's no place for it, it's like a prayer that some aboriginal(god) will hear just by you saying it, no matter where, no matter when. It makes no sense, much like prayer.

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Reply #21 - Sep 6^th, 2023 at 7:37pm

The only time I have seen a Welcome to Country in person was during the orientation week of university. The speaker did not look comfortable saying what she was saying. It was like she was forced to say it. But the left-wing university has taken a position to support the "yes" campaign. I guess the lady's concern was with her well-paying job.

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Reply #22 - Sep 6^th, 2023 at 7:47pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 7:37pm:

The only time I have seen a Welcome to Country in person was during the orientation week of university. The speaker did not look comfortable saying what she was saying. It was like she was forced to say it. But the left-wing university has taken a position to support the "yes" campaign. I guess the lady's concern was with her well-paying job.

Yes, I have seen that. They don't believe in it themselves but it's money for the clan - sorry, for the Aboriginal land council controlled by the Big Men.

Any inquiry into how Aboriginal organisations operate would be like an inquiry in Italy into how the Mafia works,

And they would find the same forces at work. 50,000 years of Mafia. The longest surviving mafia in history.

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Reply #23 - Sep 6^th, 2023 at 7:57pm

I will repeat - it is a clear indication that you are only here by invitation, and thus can be told to piss off at any time by the owners. It is subtle and insidious in instilling in the young and malleable the basic idea that this is not their country and never can or will be - regardless of how much of a majority they are in it, and regardless of how many of them were born here and how much they actually do to make it a better place.

In accepting this, those who do are accepting second class status in their own country... a sure recipe for trouble down the track once people begin to wake up, as they are clearly doing over this voice nonsense.

That is the catalyst - be sure to maintain the rage... I cannot be here forever to hold your hands as you sign the paper to give away your own country from under the feet of your descendants... mine deserve better... do not be content with trashing the voice - be ready to take it further and demand the return of your national parks and so forth, shoot a dingo on Fraser Island, and demand a clampdown on crime to bring all under the same roof instead of this nonsense of 'if you arrest us it's discrimination'.

Sellout monkeys not welcome..... pack your bags....

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Reply #24 - Sep 6^th, 2023 at 8:13pm

Acknowledgement of Country is much as I stated, a prayer, and like all prayers meant to show your allegiance to the cause of said religion. It's meant to bind you into only The Religion's way of thinking. If you don't follow protocol, you are a heretic, worse, you are a racist! You should be cancelled or at least burnt at the stake.

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Reply #25 - Sep 6^th, 2023 at 8:23pm

Setanta wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 8:13pm:

Acknowledgement of Country is much as I stated, a prayer, and like all prayers meant to show your allegiance to the cause of said religion. It's meant to bind you into only The Religion's way of thinking. If you don't follow protocol, you are a heretic, worse, you are a racist! You should be cancelled or at least burnt at the stake.

Exactly.

It’s total BS. I never bother with it.

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Reply #26 - Sep 6^th, 2023 at 11:38pm

When it comes on at the start of something on TV - I go to the fridge for a beer or make a drink such as grape juice... maybe grab some Swiss cheese and biccies.... must top up the Swiss cheese tomorrow in town.....

I have never once listened to one 'welcome to country' all the way through, and can't wait for them to end so we can just get on with it.... now if we could translate that to everyday life.......

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Reply #28 - Oct 13^th, 2023 at 9:20am

JC Denton wrote on Sep 6^th, 2023 at 5:35pm:

you've done it brian i warned you

now you have to stare at this cv nt's ugly f_king head for all eternity

you thought loyal heydrich was so bad well feast your eyeballs on this smug old queen's hideously misshapen skull

suffering will be the only world you will ever know from this point forward

Albo has a likeness to old Himmler don't you think?

I couldn't tell you'd changed your avatar for a sec. Grin

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