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Re: So...the day after the Referendum
Reply #195 - Sep 15^th, 2023 at 1:08pm

Belgarion wrote on Sep 15^th, 2023 at 12:01pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 15^th, 2023 at 6:58am:

It's most hilarious that Jacinta pretends aborigines already have representatives in parliament whilst with the same breath ignoring the wishes of at least 90 aboriginal communities in her electorate

the woman is a fraud and a liar.

You hate and fear her because she is a strong, independent woman who does not fit your racist stereotype of the submissive and incapable aboriginal who needs others to speak for them. Roll Eyes

No-one hates or fears her. There is zero reason to. She is a light weight hypocrite who presently has a grab bag of slogans and bullshit political rhetoric..and a spotlight given she is boong, an Uncle Toby, and we have the Referendum on boong issues.

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Reply #196 - Sep 15^th, 2023 at 1:11pm

issuevoter wrote on Sep 15^th, 2023 at 8:51am:

Jacinta Price (mixed blood) on making indigenous people feel like victims.

Journalist: “Would you accept there has been generations of trauma because of that history?”

Price: “Well I guess that would mean those of us whose ancestors were dispossessed of their own country and brought here in chains as convicts were also suffering from intergenerational trauma, so I'd be doubly suffering from intergenerational trauma.” Cheers and applause from the press gallery.

I'm glad you posted that as I did not pick up on what she said as she said it. She had those lines so ready/prepared and thus, she rushed them out so quickly I did not hear her accurately.

What she ignores is that those people came here under a judicial sentence handed out in the jurisdiction in which they lived. The black fella was dispossessed by invasion from overseas and violence.

Stupid.

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Reply #197 - Sep 15^th, 2023 at 1:18pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 15^th, 2023 at 9:23am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 15^th, 2023 at 8:55am:

issuevoter wrote on Sep 15^th, 2023 at 8:51am:

Well I guess that would mean those of us whose ancestors were dispossessed of their own country and brought here in chains as convicts were also suffering from intergenerational trauma, so I'd be doubly suffering from intergenerational trauma

what a stupid comparison. Those bought here in chains were criminals.

The question is: was it just to exile them to Australia to be press-ganged into white slavery in the service of the empire?

Forced transportation to Australia was, for the most part, an atrocity.

However, as it turns out, the ancestors of those convicts do not appear to be suffering generational trauma, even if that wasn't always the case, with direct descendants concealing their ancestors' criminality.

take it up with the crown

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Reply #198 - Sep 15^th, 2023 at 1:18pm

Frank wrote on Sep 15^th, 2023 at 10:58am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 15^th, 2023 at 6:58am:

It's most hilarious that Jacinta pretends aborigines already have representatives in parliament whilst with the same breath ignoring the wishes of at least 90 aboriginal communities in her electorate

the woman is a fraud and a liar.

What wishes are those, thick-as-mince?

the wishes they signed on the 'statement from the heart' ya dumbarse

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I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #199 - Sep 15^th, 2023 at 1:39pm

Belgarion wrote on Sep 15^th, 2023 at 12:01pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 15^th, 2023 at 6:58am:

It's most hilarious that Jacinta pretends aborigines already have representatives in parliament whilst with the same breath ignoring the wishes of at least 90 aboriginal communities in her electorate

the woman is a fraud and a liar.

You hate and fear her because she is a strong, independent woman who does not fit your racist stereotype of the submissive and incapable aboriginal who needs others to speak for them. Roll Eyes

Fear and hate? For what? Because she's a hypocrite? Cheesy

if I feared and hated her for that I'd spend my whole life fearing all the right. Contempt and ridicule is closer to the mark

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Reply #200 - Sep 15^th, 2023 at 1:47pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 15^th, 2023 at 1:11pm:

issuevoter wrote on Sep 15^th, 2023 at 8:51am:

Jacinta Price (mixed blood) on making indigenous people feel like victims.

Journalist: “Would you accept there has been generations of trauma because of that history?”

Price: “Well I guess that would mean those of us whose ancestors were dispossessed of their own country and brought here in chains as convicts were also suffering from intergenerational trauma, so I'd be doubly suffering from intergenerational trauma.” Cheers and applause from the press gallery.

I'm glad you posted that as I did not pick up on what she said as she said it. She had those lines so ready/prepared and thus, she rushed them out so quickly I did not hear her accurately.

What she ignores is that those people came here under a judicial sentence handed out in the jurisdiction in which they lived. The black fella was dispossessed by invasion from overseas and violence.

Stupid.

Speaking of stupid ... YOU somehow completely missed the point that Price was stressing the TRAUMA experienced by both groups.

Imagine being sentenced to prison and then onto a penal colony on the other side of the world which would take months to get to in a crowded ship (which could be the death of you note many died en route you know) for the CRIME of stealing a loaf of bread so as to eat something because of hunger.

The separation from loved ones, the exclusion, the horrific journey, the horrendous circumstances once here. Slave labourers worked to death. Women were regarded lower than animals.

The Aboriginal story is only PART of the freaking equation of Australia’s colonial history.

Price embodies BOTH sides!

It must have terrified you when Price came clean about the confronting and brutal truth about your own ancestry Aussie. Your denial has had enough time in the domain of pretence It’s time YOU faced who YOU REALLY are: a convict’s descendant.

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38836 Gender:	Re: So...the day after the Referendum Reply #201 - Sep 15^th, 2023 at 1:50pm That whole post is diatribe and guess what...no I am not.
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Jasin Gold Member Online Posts: 49256 Gender:	Re: So...the day after the Referendum Reply #202 - Sep 15^th, 2023 at 1:50pm Don't forget all the Free Settler 'colonialists' with their 'american' right to bear arms and shoot all the Aborigines (like the genocide in Tasmania) and then cry to the British Troopers to protect them, if the Aborigines fought back. Aussie is descended from Free Settler colonialists. He's off to Gaol.
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Re: So...the day after the Referendum
Reply #203 - Sep 15^th, 2023 at 1:51pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 15^th, 2023 at 1:11pm:

issuevoter wrote on Sep 15^th, 2023 at 8:51am:

Jacinta Price (mixed blood) on making indigenous people feel like victims.

Journalist: “Would you accept there has been generations of trauma because of that history?”

Price: “Well I guess that would mean those of us whose ancestors were dispossessed of their own country and brought here in chains as convicts were also suffering from intergenerational trauma, so I'd be doubly suffering from intergenerational trauma.” Cheers and applause from the press gallery.

I'm glad you posted that as I did not pick up on what she said as she said it. She had those lines so ready/prepared and thus, she rushed them out so quickly I did not hear her accurately.

What she ignores is that those people came here under a judicial sentence handed out in the jurisdiction in which they lived. The black fella was dispossessed by invasion from overseas and violence.

Stupid.

Judicial sentence, eh! They targeted people from the lowest echelons of British society for transportation, after Irish/British political prisoners, and put them to work as white slaves - and treated them as badly as African slaves in the American colonies / United States.

The logic of African-American activism for slavery reparations could, in principle, be applied to the descendants of convicts.

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: So...the day after the Referendum Reply #204 - Sep 15^th, 2023 at 1:52pm Aussie wrote on Sep 15^th, 2023 at 1:50pm: That whole post is diatribe and guess what...no I am not. Translation: I hit the nail on the head!
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Jasin Gold Member Online Posts: 49256 Gender:	Re: So...the day after the Referendum Reply #205 - Sep 15^th, 2023 at 1:53pm Aussie Convicts were both Petty and Capital criminals. Many were murderers and brutal scum of the earth. To box 'all' Convicts into the 'loaf of bread' excuse is flawed.
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Re: So...the day after the Referendum
Reply #206 - Sep 15^th, 2023 at 1:53pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 15^th, 2023 at 1:18pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 15^th, 2023 at 10:58am:

John Smith wrote on Sep 15^th, 2023 at 6:58am:

It's most hilarious that Jacinta pretends aborigines already have representatives in parliament whilst with the same breath ignoring the wishes of at least 90 aboriginal communities in her electorate

the woman is a fraud and a liar.

What wishes are those, thick-as-mince?

the wishes they signed on the 'statement from the heart' ya dumbarse

The Uluru Wheeze was signed in 2017. Price was ELECTED by the people of the NT in 2022.

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Re: So...the day after the Referendum
Reply #208 - Sep 15^th, 2023 at 2:05pm

Jasin wrote on Sep 15^th, 2023 at 1:55pm:

Price should be Prime Minister or even Governor-General

Price deserves to be Australia’s FIRST ELECTED FEMALE PRIME MINISTER OR GOVERNOR GENERAL.

Price openly acknowledges and embraces her diverse cultural heritage and in so doing is positive role modelling how we all ought to embrace the reality of Australia’s society as we move forward.

The fact that it took a woman to show the men of Australia (who are actively involved in Australian politics) how it’s done is an absolute shame and a disgrace. Never mind. These matters are usually left for a woman to sort out. In this case ... a Conservative Gen X woman with a mixed cultural heritage and years of experience working in politics and surviving its challenges every day. Well done Jacinta Price. She is the refreshing change the Liberal Party Australia needs.

The Left wing woke nutters of OzPol are currently eating her dust (that’s why they’re spitting vitriol everywhere). Good! Watching them jump up and down like caged monkeys has made my day 😂🤣😆

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38836 Gender:	Re: So...the day after the Referendum Reply #209 - Sep 15^th, 2023 at 2:08pm She is a Nat, not Liberal.
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