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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12507 Gender:	CIA COVID Coverup? Sep 17^th, 2023 at 7:09pm An unnamed senior-level CIA whistleblower has testified to a House Select Subcommittee that the agency offered hush money to analysts to cover up their findings that COVID-19 likely originated in a lab in Wuhan, China. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjMf5OTUAEI https://abcnews.go.com/US/cia-allegations-connected-covid-19-origins/story?id=10...
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Reply #1 - Sep 17^th, 2023 at 7:28pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 17^th, 2023 at 7:09pm:

An unnamed senior-level CIA whistleblower has testified to a House Select Subcommittee that the agency offered hush money to analysts to cover up their findings that COVID-19 likely originated in a lab in Wuhan, China.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjMf5OTUAEI

https://abcnews.go.com/US/cia-allegations-connected-covid-19-origins/story?id=10...

2 days after the story posted below, a report from US intilligence dropped that Covid likely came from the wet market.

Quinkydink?

US Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen has just concluded a four-day trip to China, aimed at rebuilding bridges between the two countries.

The US and China are once again talking to each other, face to face, politely and respectfully, if not warmly.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-66146889

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 105125 Melbourne Gender:	Re: CIA COVID Coverup? Reply #2 - Sep 17^th, 2023 at 7:31pm Good find - I posted it in my thread here: https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1580611988/1181#1181
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Reply #3 - Sep 17^th, 2023 at 8:11pm

Seems unlikely.

Especially since the Republicans have obscured all of it from any type of examination.

It also seems that the finding either way was considered low confidence. Basically they were leaning slightly one way or the other but didn't really know.

I am not sure if when considering it may have been from the lab that it does not mean that it is the result of gain of function research as they virtually all rule that out.

The most likely source of the virus is either naturally occuring spread through something like the market or it was still naturally occuring held in the lab and it escaped. The third option is man made and escaped from a lab which is a miniscule possibility.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 105125 Melbourne Gender:	Re: CIA COVID Coverup? Reply #4 - Sep 17^th, 2023 at 8:21pm Both China and the USA have run for cover and are just denying everything - if they admitted what they did they would be up for the deaths of 7 million people and financial damage of up to $100 trillion.
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Reply #5 - Sep 17^th, 2023 at 8:28pm

People do realise that if the CIA did pay to have the results changed however unlikely the proposition is that it would have been as the result of political involvement.

The reason would have been to keep the USA and China on a positive footing allowing research into covid in China to continue.

Any such political interference in this period would have had to have been at the hands of the Trump administration.

I personally think it unlikely but if true this is where it leads.

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Reply #6 - Sep 17^th, 2023 at 8:34pm

Dnarever wrote on Sep 17^th, 2023 at 8:28pm:

People do realise that if the CIA did pay to have the results changed however unlikely the proposition is that it would have been as the result of political involvement.

The reason would have been to keep the USA and China on a positive footing allowing research into covid in China to continue.

Any such political interference in this period would have had to have been at the hands of the Trump administration.

I personally think it unlikely but if true this is where it leads.

Not quite.

The CIA often operates by not providing the president with details or full disclosure. That way they protect the Commander-in-Chief from involvement and give him the opportunity for plausible deniability.

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Reply #7 - Sep 17^th, 2023 at 8:42pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 17^th, 2023 at 8:34pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 17^th, 2023 at 8:28pm:

People do realise that if the CIA did pay to have the results changed however unlikely the proposition is that it would have been as the result of political involvement.

The reason would have been to keep the USA and China on a positive footing allowing research into covid in China to continue.

Any such political interference in this period would have had to have been at the hands of the Trump administration.

I personally think it unlikely but if true this is where it leads.

Not quite.

The CIA often operates by not providing the president with details or full disclosure. That way they protect the Commander-in-Chief from involvement and give him the opportunity for plausible deniability.

There would be no reason for them to have a view on the result self driven either way. It still leads back to the government of the day, maybe falling short of the Prsident but within his administration or government departments.

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 48572 Gender:	Re: CIA COVID Coverup? Reply #8 - Sep 17^th, 2023 at 8:47pm Covid was just a scam to get rid of Trump. So many people who never got the jabs are alive and well still.
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Reply #9 - Sep 17^th, 2023 at 8:50pm

Dnarever wrote on Sep 17^th, 2023 at 8:42pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 17^th, 2023 at 8:34pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 17^th, 2023 at 8:28pm:

People do realise that if the CIA did pay to have the results changed however unlikely the proposition is that it would have been as the result of political involvement.

The reason would have been to keep the USA and China on a positive footing allowing research into covid in China to continue.

Any such political interference in this period would have had to have been at the hands of the Trump administration.

I personally think it unlikely but if true this is where it leads.

Not quite.

The CIA often operates by not providing the president with details or full disclosure. That way they protect the Commander-in-Chief from involvement and give him the opportunity for plausible deniability.

There would be no reason for them to have a view on the result self driven either way. It still leads back to the government of the day, maybe falling short of the Prsident but within his administration or government departments.

It would depend on how exposed the US was by any colluding with the Chinese without the president's knowledge.

The CIA is effectively the president's private army or a latter-day Praetorian Guard to the president.

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Reply #10 - Sep 17^th, 2023 at 8:55pm

Jasin wrote on Sep 17^th, 2023 at 8:47pm:

Covid was just a scam to get rid of Trump.
So many people who never got the jabs are alive and well still.

I doubt that -
the first variant of Covid was a super deadly bio weapon.
Remember in Italy how young healthy doctors and nurses
were dying in their 100s trying to treat Covid patients?

The later variants were much milder.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58606 Here Gender:	Re: CIA COVID Coverup? Reply #11 - Sep 17^th, 2023 at 8:59pm Jasin wrote on Sep 17^th, 2023 at 8:47pm: Covid was just a scam to get rid of Trump. So many people who never got the jabs are alive and well still. And so many millions who didn't get the jabs are now dead.
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Reply #12 - Sep 17^th, 2023 at 9:00pm

Jasin wrote on Sep 17^th, 2023 at 8:47pm:

Covid was just a scam to get rid of Trump.
So many people who never got the jabs are alive and well still.

Trump had the opportunity to not kill a million people and to have come out of it smelling roses.

From that position his insurrection may have worked and he would be Fuhrer for life.

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Reply #13 - Sep 17^th, 2023 at 9:03pm

Jasin wrote on Sep 17^th, 2023 at 8:47pm:

Covid was just a scam to get rid of Trump.

LOL... claim of the day! Bullshit of course. Roll Eyes

Jasin wrote on Sep 17^th, 2023 at 8:47pm:

So many people who never got the jabs are alive and well still.

Another meaningless claim duh.

Not accounting of course for the millions of unvaccinated
people who died globally, or the 22,000 unvaccinated
Australians who died—or who're still dying today.

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