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Reply #75 - Sep 21st, 2023 at 11:52pm
 
To all those who so far have voted no -
this gif file shows that men and women are all getting fatter:


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Reply #76 - Sep 22nd, 2023 at 3:13am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 21st, 2023 at 4:27pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 21st, 2023 at 3:21pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 21st, 2023 at 2:59pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 20th, 2023 at 1:34am:
No. a lot of it is medical. Especially when doctors prescribe things that cause water retention. I know several ppl it happened to. As long as you are taking the crap theres no way you can lose any weight. I have also seen what happens when they get off the medications. They lose weight of course.


If I did not drink, eat junk food, and kept a moderate amount of physical activity in my life, I could be free of the metformin tablets that I take every day. Other than last night's KFC snack, I have had a reasonably good diet in the last week. I had physical resistance training a few nights ago, where I was suffering sore feet for the next day -- all good now.

My medication costs me $7 a month. I doubt that the pharmaceutical companies are really raking in a great profit. And even with government subsidies, there would not be a great deal in the profits. The profits would add up, though, and be enough to pay for the expenses and employees making the drugs.


Heh i didnt say ALL is caused by meds but a pretty high percentage is and the ppl on here hating

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Rubbish. My health problems are caused by too much sugar and not enough exercise.  The medication I have would help undo the damage or keep my body in reasonable health. I would have avoided taking medication in the first place had I maintained at least a reasonable diet and exercise routine.


Why are you saying "rubbish" when you didnt argue my point?

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Reply #77 - Sep 22nd, 2023 at 12:39pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 21st, 2023 at 11:34pm:
aquascoot wrote on Sep 21st, 2023 at 5:01pm:
its great to see you owning the problem rocky and i'll tell you why.

if you think the problem exists outside of yourself then how can you fix it?
you cant
all you can do is see yourself as a victim


I have seen myself as a perpetrator of my own diet for the last 34 of my last 44 years of life. I cannot really blame myself for when I was in single digit age for what diet I had. Mum and Dad fed me what they could afford. I presented myself as a glutton for food. But, I was nowhere near as gluttonous as I was when I reached my 30s. My teenage years were the time where I could eat what I wanted and not get all that fat. But, I did get to look at some photos Mum and Dad found of when I was a teenager. It was like I was a different person back then. There was a photo I saw of myself being somewhat obese in my teens. I did not remember being that fat in my teens. But, I do recall Mum giving me meal replacement shakes and then getting told to go for a jog more often. I think I basically burned off the excess weight in about 2 months.

I looked in the mirror the other night at a face I could barely recognise. I had been really down and out for the last few months. I don't know what it was -- perhaps the realisation that I have to make major changes quickly in my life, so that I can move into my middle years financially and emotionally secure. But it took taking the wrong supplement with a few hours later evening bottle of scotch that had me feeling like I was ready for a heart attack the next morning, for me to realise that I had to change my health status immediately.

I am not happy with the way my life has been over the last 15 years. I wish I could restart my last 20 years and do it right, instead of feeling sorry for myself. Heck, I would not mind going back 30 years and trying to get ahead in life from that point.

I don't know what it was that triggered me lately. Maybe it was the 5-figure bank account balance I had 18 months ago that slowly diminished due to my casual spending. Or maybe it was the massive financial hit I got when my car's engine had to be replaced. Goodness me, though. It was enough for me to stop boozing and casual spending on rubbish to only just begin (this last month) being frugal.

Thank you for the talk, aqua. But, I have to admit that the last 4 years are completely my own undoing. The "undoing" of the good work I did back in 2014/2015 when I was well on my way to being physically fit. But, I have rediscovered that feeling just in the last few months (other than the other week's big hiccup) to just go without drowning my problems with booze and comfort eating.



rocky

life is really one turd after another being laid at your doorstep

the turds never stop coming

we are actually here on planet earth, i beleive , to transcend the turds

to train ourselves so that we are no longer affected by the turds

what happens, happens and couldnt have happened any other way because it didnt

the lessons never end

the car engine blowing up is just another turd in a series of turds

now, if you get all sad and feel sorry for yourself when the car engine blows up, then its back to square 1 .  (though i note you wisely accepted this and used it to move up...well done)

if you do get sad and upset at the engine blowing up , you may start drinking to numb the pain, you may get in an arguement with your wife because you are pissed off, hell, you may get a road rage attack and end up inprison.

the turds are designed to make you grow.

you HAVE ro look at them like weights in the gym

heavy hard painful, designed to break you but if you voluntarily pick them up and accept the challenge, you get stronger and they get weaker.

and then a funny thing happens

the turds seem to diminish.

by adopting the right attitude to turds, the universe seems to say "we dont need to send that guy more turds, he's learning the lesson"

i cant figure out exactly why that is but i do know this

if you try to lead the easy life, if you try to dodge personal responsibility, if you look to government to save you ,  if you go for the easy option, spending money you shouldnt, drinking when you shouldnt, eating crap when you shouldnt , having an affair instead of being loyal , you go down and down and down

the easy route is nearly always the wrong route

love it when its hard
love the pain


pain is like the turds,  it is inevitable
if the turd comes and you dont accept it (if the engine blows and you dont accept it), guess what

you suffer twice, the turd is still there  (the engine is still blown) AND you are suffering thru non-acceptance .

non acceptance of reality is called suffering

suffering is totally on you, its a choice , you never ever have to suffer, you just have to recognise pain
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Re: Are women getting fatter?
Reply #78 - Sep 22nd, 2023 at 2:02pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Sep 22nd, 2023 at 12:39pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 21st, 2023 at 11:34pm:
aquascoot wrote on Sep 21st, 2023 at 5:01pm:
its great to see you owning the problem rocky and i'll tell you why.

if you think the problem exists outside of yourself then how can you fix it?
you cant
all you can do is see yourself as a victim


I have seen myself as a perpetrator of my own diet for the last 34 of my last 44 nd not get all that fat. But, I did get to look at some photos Mum and Dad found of when I was a teenager. It was like I was a different person back then. There was a photo I saw of myself being somewhat obese in my teens. I did not remember being that fat in my teens. But, I do recall Mum giving me meal replacement shakes and then getting told to go for a jog more often. I think I basically burned off the excess weight in about 2 months.

I looked in the mirror the other night at a face I could barely recognise. I had been really down and out for the last few months. I don't know what it was -- perhaps the realisation that I have to make major changes quickly in my life, so that I can move into my middle years financially and emotionally secure. But it took taking the wrong supplement with a few hours later evening bottle of scotch that had me feeling like I was ready for a heart attack the next morning, for me to realise that I had to change my health status immediately.

I am not happy with the way my life has been over the last 15 years. I wish I could restart my last 20 years and do it right, instead of feeling sorry for myself. Heck, I would not mind going back 30 years and trying to get ahead in life from that point.

I don't know what it was that triggered me lately. Maybe it was the 5-figure bank account balance I had 18 months ago that slowly diminished due to my casual spending. Or maybe it was the massive financial hit I got when my car's engine had to be replaced. Goodness me, though. It was enough for me to stop boozing and casual spending on rubbish to only just begin (this last month) being frugal.

Thank you for the talk, aqua. But, I have to admit that the last 4 years are completely my own undoing. The "undoing" of the good work I did back in 2014/2015 when I was well on my way to being physically fit. But, I have rediscovered that feeling just in the last few months (other than the other week's big hiccup) to just go without drowning my problems with booze and comfort eating.



rocky

life is really one turd after another being laid at your doorstep

the turds never stop coming

we are actually here on planet earth, i beleive , to transcend the turds

to train ourselves so that we are no longer affected by the turds

what happens, happens and couldnt have happened any other way because it didnt

the lessons never end

the car engine blowing up is just another turd in a series of turds

now, if you get all sad and feel sorry for yourself when the car engine blows up, then its back to square 1 .  (though i note you wisely accepted this and used it to move up...well done)

if you do get sad and upset at the engine blowing up , you may start drinking to numb the pain, you may get in an arguement with your wife because you are pissed off, hell, you may get a road rage attack and end up inprison.

the turds are designed to make you grow.

you HAVE ro look at them like weights in the gym

heavy hard painful, designed to break you but if you voluntarily pick them up and accept the challenge, you get stronger and they get weaker.

and then a funny thing happens

the turds seem to diminish.

by adopting the right attitude to turds, the universe seems to say "we dont need to send that guy more turds, he's learning the lesson"

i cant figure out exactly why that is but i do know this

if you try to lead the easy life, if you try to dodge personal responsibility, if you look to government to save you ,  if you go for the easy option, spending money you shouldnt, drinking when you shouldnt, eating crap when you shouldnt , having an affair instead of being loyal , you go down and down and down

the easy route is nearly always the wrong route

love it when its hard
love the pain


pain is like the turds,  it is inevitable
if the turd comes and you dont accept it (if the engine blows and you dont accept it), guess what

you suffer twice, the turd is still there  (the engine is still blown) AND you are suffering thru non-acceptance .

non acceptance of reality is called suffering

suffering is totally on you, its a choice , you never ever have to suffer, you just have to recognise pain


I know, but that depends on whether one really is a victim. If someone's engine keeps blowing up, I'd suggest one of two things:

1. A technical fault with the engine - a clear liability. The vehicle manufacturer should provide suitable compensation. A recall of all vehicles may be required. If not, a class action lawsuit could remedy the situation.

2. Someone is deliberately tampering with the engine. The Mafia, for example, could be trying to take out a hit. I would advise the victim to stay indoors and seek protection. This is a criminal matter for police.

I'm sorry, a vehicle with an exploding engine is not acceptable. It is highly dangerous and should be seen to immediately.
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Reply #79 - Sep 22nd, 2023 at 2:05pm
 
aquascoot wrote on Sep 22nd, 2023 at 12:39pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 21st, 2023 at 11:34pm:
aquascoot wrote on Sep 21st, 2023 at 5:01pm:
its great to see you owning the problem rocky and i'll tell you why.

if you think the problem exists outside of yourself then how can you fix it?
you cant
all you can do is see yourself as a victim


I have seen myself as a perpetrator of my own diet for the last 34 of my last 44 years of life. I cannot really blame myself for when I was in single digit age for what diet I had. Mum and Dad fed me what they could afford. I presented myself as a glutton for food. But, I was nowhere near as gluttonous as I was when I reached my 30s. My teenage years were the time where I could eat what I wanted and not get all that fat. But, I did get to look at some photos Mum and Dad found of when I was a teenager. It was like I was a different person back then. There was a photo I saw of myself being somewhat obese in my teens. I did not remember being that fat in my teens. But, I do recall Mum giving me meal replacement shakes and then getting told to go for a jog more often. I think I basically burned off the excess weight in about 2 months.

I looked in the mirror the other night at a face I could barely recognise. I had been really down and out for the last few months. I don't know what it was -- perhaps the realisation that I have to make major changes quickly in my life, so that I can move into my middle years financially and emotionally secure. But it took taking the wrong supplement with a few hours later evening bottle of scotch that had me feeling like I was ready for a heart attack the next morning, for me to realise that I had to change my health status immediately.

I am not happy with the way my life has been over the last 15 years. I wish I could restart my last 20 years and do it right, instead of feeling sorry for myself. Heck, I would not mind going back 30 years and trying to get ahead in life from that point.

I don't know what it was that triggered me lately. Maybe it was the 5-figure bank account balance I had 18 months ago that slowly diminished due to my casual spending. Or maybe it was the massive financial hit I got when my car's engine had to be replaced. Goodness me, though. It was enough for me to stop boozing and casual spending on rubbish to only just begin (this last month) being frugal.

Thank you for the talk, aqua. But, I have to admit that the last 4 years are completely my own undoing. The "undoing" of the good work I did back in 2014/2015 when I was well on my way to being physically fit. But, I have rediscovered that feeling just in the last few months (other than the other week's big hiccup) to just go without drowning my problems with booze and comfort eating.



rocky

life is really one turd after another being laid at your doorstep

the turds never stop coming

we are actually here on planet earth, i beleive , to transcend the turds

to train ourselves so that we are no longer affected by the turds

what happens, happens and couldnt have happened any other way because it didnt

the lessons never end

the car engine blowing up is just another turd in a series of turds

now, if you get all sad and feel sorry for yourself when the car engine blows up, then its back to square 1 .  (though i note you wisely accepted this and used it to move up...well done)

if you do get sad and upset at the engine blowing up , you may start drinking to numb the pain, you may get in an arguement with your wife because you are pissed off, hell, you may get a road rage attack and end up inprison.

the turds are designed to make you grow.

you HAVE ro look at them like weights in the gym

heavy hard painful, designed to break you but if you voluntarily pick them up and accept the challenge, you get stronger and they get weaker.

and then a funny thing happens

the turds seem to diminish.

by adopting the right attitude to turds, the universe seems to say "we dont need to send that guy more turds, he's learning the lesson"

i cant figure out exactly why that is but i do know this

if you try to lead the easy life, if you try to dodge personal responsibility, if you look to government to save you ,  if you go for the easy option, spending money you shouldnt, drinking when you shouldnt, eating crap when you shouldnt , having an affair instead of being loyal , you go down and down and down

the easy route is nearly always the wrong route

love it when its hard
love the pain


pain is like the turds,  it is inevitable
if the turd comes and you dont accept it (if the engine blows and you dont accept it), guess what

you suffer twice, the turd is still there  (the engine is still blown) AND you are suffering thru non-acceptance .

non acceptance of reality is called suffering

suffering is totally on you, its a choice , you never ever have to suffer, you just have to recognise pain


I forgot to add. I concur. The same should apply to all Dear Leaders.

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Reply #80 - Sep 22nd, 2023 at 3:14pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 21st, 2023 at 11:47pm:
umm - do you see men in a gym as being queer?

I don't - I think it's you who bats for the other side.   Embarrassed

Not that there's .....


You don't think very hard, do you? The issue here is your regular act of posting photos of muscular guys on debate sites. Not one act, but many. Imagine if someone (male) was regularly talking about a particular sports star and posting posters on their bedroom wall, etc. You would think that they had a sexual attraction to that person.

Then there is the "I think it's you who bats for the other side" rubbish. I have not made any posts that even suggest that I have a sexual attraction to my own gender. In fact, I have raised an objection about your need to continually post these stupid photoshopped photos, simply because you have such an attraction. The deflection strategy very much gives people the impression that you are gay.

Why else would you demonise women for allegedly getting fatter, and not men? There must be something in your area suggesting a general hatred for women. Obesity levels seem to be going down where I live.
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Reply #81 - Sep 22nd, 2023 at 3:17pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 22nd, 2023 at 3:14pm:
You don't think very hard, do you?



it hurts him to think
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Reply #82 - Sep 22nd, 2023 at 3:30pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Sep 22nd, 2023 at 3:13am:
Why are you saying "rubbish" when you didnt argue my point?

Spot


Here is your last post I responded to: "Heh i didnt say ALL is caused by meds but a pretty high percentage is and the ppl on here hating".

Despite the fact that it looked like some teenager in a rush to write a response and run away, I responded to supplement my previous point.

Some medications that cause water retention:
some antidepressants
some heart and blood pressure medicines
corticosteroids
the pill
non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs)
some hormone replacement therapies

Source

I have had diets, supplements, medications, etc., that would have led me to retaining water. But still, people are not on the medications forever to explain being morbidly obese. And if medications were what caused people to *mostly* explain why they become morbidly obese, those medications would have been off the market.
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Reply #83 - Sep 22nd, 2023 at 3:31pm
 
John Smith wrote on Sep 22nd, 2023 at 3:17pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 22nd, 2023 at 3:14pm:
You don't think very hard, do you?



it hurts him to think


His reasoning skills are so puerile, I am embarrassed to having made the effort responding.
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Reply #84 - Sep 22nd, 2023 at 3:33pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 22nd, 2023 at 3:14pm:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 21st, 2023 at 11:47pm:
umm - do you see men in a gym as being queer?

I don't - I think it's you who bats for the other side.   Embarrassed

Not that there's .....


You don't think very hard, do you? The issue here is your regular act of posting photos of muscular guys on debate sites. Not one act, but many. Imagine if someone (male) was regularly talking about a particular sports star and posting posters on their bedroom wall, etc. You would think that they had a sexual attraction to that person.

Then there is the "I think it's you who bats for the other side" rubbish. I have not made any posts that even suggest that I have a sexual attraction to my own gender. In fact, I have raised an objection about your need to continually post these stupid photoshopped photos, simply because you have such an attraction. The deflection strategy very much gives people the impression that you are gay.

Why else would you demonise women for allegedly getting fatter, and not men? There must be something in your area suggesting a general hatred for women. Obesity levels seem to be going down where I live.



So - what are you saying?
Now we'll all have to worship Kim Kardashian and her great big fat arse?

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Reply #85 - Sep 22nd, 2023 at 3:41pm
 
Kim Kardashian is a pretty woman. But, having an obese arse that she does is something that I cannot find attractive. Maybe it is cultural. Americans have gotten caught up in losing their shame that they cannot see health problems as not being sexy.
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Reply #86 - Sep 22nd, 2023 at 3:46pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 22nd, 2023 at 3:41pm:
Kim Kardashian is a pretty woman. But, having an obese arse that she does is something that I cannot find attractive. Maybe it is cultural. Americans have gotten caught up in losing their shame that they cannot see health problems as not being sexy.



yep and it's not photo-shopped:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/3419108/this-is-why-kim-kardashians-butt-really-...
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Reply #87 - Sep 22nd, 2023 at 3:54pm
 
Karnal wrote on Sep 22nd, 2023 at 2:02pm:
I know, but that depends on whether one really is a victim. If someone's engine keeps blowing up, I'd suggest one of two things:

1. A technical fault with the engine - a clear liability. The vehicle manufacturer should provide suitable compensation. A recall of all vehicles may be required. If not, a class action lawsuit could remedy the situation.

2. Someone is deliberately tampering with the engine. The Mafia, for example, could be trying to take out a hit. I would advise the victim to stay indoors and seek protection. This is a criminal matter for police.

I'm sorry, a vehicle with an exploding engine is not acceptable. It is highly dangerous and should be seen to immediately.


I should not really say this, but the reason for the engine change was that the engine had over 200,000km on the odometer. The engine was due for a change. What irritated me the most was that I had a 5-figure bank account balance in 2021. It whittled away to half that amount by July. Then there were the repairs and the car engine replacement which left me with a balance that I could probably use within a month -- if there is no income forthcoming.

Among a lot of things going on in my life is that my father seems to have only a couple of years left of life. And I am not even emotionally or financially ready for that inevitability. So, the only solution left for me is to be sober, employed, and very vigilant.

A lot of people go through this sort of thing in their 40s.
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Reply #88 - Sep 22nd, 2023 at 4:23pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 22nd, 2023 at 3:46pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 22nd, 2023 at 3:41pm:
Kim Kardashian is a pretty woman. But, having an obese arse that she does is something that I cannot find attractive. Maybe it is cultural. Americans have gotten caught up in losing their shame that they cannot see health problems as not being sexy.



yep and it's not photo-shopped:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/3419108/this-is-why-kim-kardashians-butt-really-...


Being 5 feet 3 inches tall would not explain why a woman has an arse double the expected size of someone fit and healthy. Genetics might play a part. However, it seems that Kardashian does not do leg workouts.
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Reply #89 - Sep 22nd, 2023 at 4:42pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 22nd, 2023 at 4:23pm:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 22nd, 2023 at 3:46pm:
UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 22nd, 2023 at 3:41pm:
Kim Kardashian is a pretty woman. But, having an obese arse that she does is something that I cannot find attractive. Maybe it is cultural. Americans have gotten caught up in losing their shame that they cannot see health problems as not being sexy.



yep and it's not photo-shopped:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/3419108/this-is-why-kim-kardashians-butt-really-...


Being 5 feet 3 inches tall would not explain why a woman has an arse double the expected size of someone fit and healthy. Genetics might play a part. However, it seems that Kardashian does not do leg workouts.



I think she cashes in on fat women to make them feel wanted.
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