freediver wrote on Oct 6
th, 2023 at 4:47pm:
Inalienable means that no matter what you sign, you cannot sell yourself into slavery,
Phew - thanks fraudiver, I was worried I might forget my inalienable "right" to freedom, and sell myself into slavery....
Quote:..because the law does not recognise, accept or enforce such a sale or contract,
...provided slavery IS illegal...
Quote: and without institutionalised backing, genuine slavery cannot exist.
Slavery takes many forms, eg wage slavery.
Quote:That is the reality we find ourselves in, and it is just as real as that faced by people in the passed who were genuine slaves, and it only becomes reality as a consequence of our shared beliefs.
People like Wilberforce had to struggle many years, to ensure the 'belief' was shared.
Quote:Hence, rights are an intersubjective reality.
Existence is a consequence of shared belief.
Just as past belief in slavery institutionlized the evil of slavery, so the present belief in national sovereignty has institutionlaized the evil of war between nations.
So the "inalienable right" to make war means means the "inalienable right to life" is swept aside.
Quote:And no matter how much the CCP tells you that whatever BS system they have in China is a consequence of some old pieces of paper, it is a lie. It is the belief that makes it real. China's borders for example only exist because of the shared belief that they exist, yet they are 100% real.
Good to see you at least giving examples of "rights", even as fraudulent as your examples are.
China's constitution elevates
collective security and wellbeing above the "rights" of self-interested individuals.
Iow, it implements the
goals of the US Constitution (outlined in the Preamble), which a Classical Liberal conception of 'inalienable rights of the (self-interested) individual' can never implement - hence the parlous condition of US 'democracy'.
As for China's borders, they exist as remnants of the Qing dynasty state which collapsed in 1910. [Qing dynasty China at its fullest extent was much larger than the modern state].
Quote:... the shared belief that (the borders) exist, yet they are 100% real
According to the UN, there is One China, of which Taiwan is a part. An "inter-subjective reality"?