Frank wrote on Oct 14
th, 2023 at 1:35pm:
thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 14
th, 2023 at 1:10pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 13
th, 2023 at 3:43pm:
chimera wrote on Oct 13
th, 2023 at 3:27pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 13
th, 2023 at 3:25pm:
Language is inherent in humans.
You can't be born speaking a language, only with the ability to learn it.
You can smear, smudge, or blend the paint in an image. Smearing produces a similar effect to dragging across wet paint.
Yeah, sorry, my bad again, I forgot
again that you are insane.
Er....excuse me, but while the
human ability to learn and speak a language might be said to be "inherent", what has that to do with the posited existence of "inherent rights"?
You are showing the limitations of analogies; stick to the subject at hand ie "inherent rights" ...which are really only
desires masquerading as "rights".
You can't be born speaking a language, only with the ability to learn it.
...which is equivalent to saying the human capacity for language is 'inherent'***, but the
specific language you actually learn depends eg, on where you were born.
***"inherent" because of vocal anatomy; again, nothing to do with posited "inherent rights".
Quote:Same with walking, tool making, cooperating, planning, etc. That is what inherent means.
No it's not; while it may be said vocal chords are 'inherent' in human anatomy, what is vocalised is not, eg a different language, or support for the illusions re "rights" are not 'inhernet', they depend of the self-interested individual's point of view.
It seems you are confusing the reality of
differing points of view, as proof of the existence of "inalienable rights", even though in reality those same 'rights' manifest in opposing forms, and in competiton as well as co-operation
This is the reason for fd's remarkably silly "inter-subjective reality" concept, to enable him to hold onto illusory "inalieanable rights" dogma, even though those rights are disputed by individuals with different points of view.
Quote: To realise your human characteristics, your inherent human traits, is your human right - the right to say ll f-realisation as a human being. But since you do not live alone, your rights must be tempered by the rights of other people around you. That's what interpersonal means.
Yes, and interpersonal means the point of view of each individual will need to be addressed, which is why rule of law is required.
Quote:The innovation of Christianity was to say that we are all born with the same inherent tt human characteristics and dignity, that there is no difference in human dignity between sexes, races, classes.
Buddhism and its search by all for enlightenment, surely also implies this 'dignity' which is available to all (if the ego is subsumed by the individual).
Quote:This is why human rights is an idea rooted in Christianity, this particular Christian idea, and not in Judaism, Islam, Hinduism or Buddhism, none of which recognise equal human dignity.
Buddhism implies human dignity, and even Confucianism is concerned with dignified relations.
But our global village is experiencing an absolute chaos of human degradation; time for some internatonal law, as well as national and local law.