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Re: Does Atheism really exist?
Reply #315 - Sep 29^th, 2023 at 11:18am

Dnarever wrote on Sep 29^th, 2023 at 10:55am:

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Does Atheism really exist?

80 million people claiming to be atheist exist.

While the majority of us disagree with atheism it is hardly possible to have your head deep enough in the sand to question its existence.

According to sociologist Phil Zuckerman broad estimates
of those who have an absence of belief in a god range from
500 to 750 million people worldwide. And according to
sociologists Ariela Keysar and Juhem Navarro-Rivera's review
of numerous global studies on atheism, there are 450 to 500
million positive atheists and agnostics worldwide (7% of the
world's population) with China alone accounting for 200 million
of that demographic.

According to Gallup, in 2017, 63% of Australians were atheists.
And here, also, atheists now outnumber each of the major Christian
and Catholic church adherents.

(The 80M figure was made up by God-botherers
in order to support their absurd beliefs in the
supernatural or paranormal LOL.)

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Re: Does Atheism really exist?
Reply #316 - Sep 29^th, 2023 at 11:19am

AusGeoff wrote on Sep 29^th, 2023 at 11:01am:

Frank wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 12:52pm:

...For theists, there is lots of evidence of the existence of God. Atheists don't accept any of them as evidence.

As I said, there is lots of evidence but atheists accept only a certain class of evidence - empirical - and not others.
But accepting only empirical evidence for something super-natural, ie 'super-empirical', is pathological from beginning to end.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47507 Gender:	Re: Does Atheism really exist? Reply #317 - Sep 29^th, 2023 at 11:21am Zero actual empirical evidence. Just faith that dirty word.
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Re: Does Atheism really exist?
Reply #318 - Sep 29^th, 2023 at 11:23am

AusGeoff wrote on Sep 29^th, 2023 at 11:18am:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 29^th, 2023 at 10:55am:

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Does Atheism really exist?

80 million people claiming to be atheist exist.

While the majority of us disagree with atheism it is hardly possible to have your head deep enough in the sand to question its existence.

According to sociologist Phil Zuckerman broad estimates
of those who have an absence of belief in a god range from
500 to 750 million people worldwide. And according to
sociologists Ariela Keysar and Juhem Navarro-Rivera's review
of numerous global studies on atheism, there are 450 to 500
million positive atheists and agnostics worldwide (7% of the
world's population) with China alone accounting for 200 million
of that demographic.

According to Gallup, in 2017, 63% of Australians were atheists.
And here, also, atheists now outnumber each of the major Christian
and Catholic church adherents.

(The 80M figure was made up by God-botherers
in order to support their absurd beliefs in the
supernatural or paranormal LOL.)

You are likely correct but for the point of this topic does it matter - a lot is a lot. 2 would prove the point of existence.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58694 Here Gender:	Re: Does Atheism really exist? Reply #319 - Sep 29^th, 2023 at 11:25am Does anyone here care what other people think about this ? My belief is my belief and anyone else is free to believe whatever they like.
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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12656 Gender:	Re: Does Atheism really exist? Reply #320 - Sep 29^th, 2023 at 11:33am I think theists imagine atheists spend much of their time thinking about the non-existence of god, in the way they spend a lot of time praising, praying and speaking to their god.
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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Does Atheism really exist? Reply #321 - Sep 29^th, 2023 at 11:37am MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 29^th, 2023 at 11:33am: I think theists imagine atheists spend much of their time thinking about the non-existence of god, in the way they spend a lot of time praising, praying and speaking to their god. You’re wrong. And as a theist I can tell you that.
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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Does Atheism really exist? Reply #322 - Sep 29^th, 2023 at 11:38am Dnarever wrote on Sep 29^th, 2023 at 11:25am: Does anyone here care what other people think about this ? My belief is my belief and anyone else is free to believe whatever they like. I certainly don’t care about your belief. Happy now? 😂🤣😆
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Re: Does Atheism really exist?
Reply #323 - Sep 29^th, 2023 at 11:40am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Sep 29^th, 2023 at 11:33am:

I think theists imagine atheists spend much of their time thinking about the non-existence of god, in the way they spend a lot of time praising, praying and speaking to their god.

I never think about it. Atheism is not a movement and I don’t try to convert theists.

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Re: Does Atheism really exist?
Reply #324 - Sep 29^th, 2023 at 11:45am

Frank wrote on Sep 29^th, 2023 at 11:19am:

AusGeoff wrote on Sep 29^th, 2023 at 11:01am:

Frank wrote on Sep 28^th, 2023 at 12:52pm:

...For theists, there is lots of evidence of the existence of God. Atheists don't accept any of them as evidence.

As I said, there is lots of evidence but atheists accept only a certain class of evidence - empirical - and not others.
But accepting only empirical evidence for something super-natural, ie 'super-empirical', is pathological from beginning to end.

Frank How many times have you been required to post this? I’ve lost count now.

I’m starting to believe that all the atheists in this topic have dementia and need to be reminded every 5 minutes.

Edit : Hang on .....

Dumbarse Drunk is an atheist (yay wouldn’t want him anywhere near a clean pure Heaven anyway) AND he has dementia AND he’s crawling all over this topic like an annoying blowfly which is chronically avoided. ✅

The atheists in THIS topic are displaying dementia.✅

Ok how many atheist IDs in here are Dumbarse Drunk? 😐

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Offline Dogs not cats! Posts: 47507 Gender:	Re: Does Atheism really exist? Reply #325 - Sep 29^th, 2023 at 11:46am Empirical is the only valid evidence.
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Re: Does Atheism really exist?
Reply #326 - Sep 29^th, 2023 at 11:52am

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 29^th, 2023 at 11:38am:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 29^th, 2023 at 11:25am:

Does anyone here care what other people think about this ?

My belief is my belief and anyone else is free to believe whatever they like.

I certainly don’t care about your belief. Happy now? 😂🤣😆

After a nice morning at the beach with the Dog how could I not be as happy as ever.

You posts identify your lack of caring so synonymous with the right in general so no need to say.

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Reply #327 - Sep 29^th, 2023 at 11:55am

Dnarever wrote on Sep 29^th, 2023 at 11:52am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 29^th, 2023 at 11:38am:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 29^th, 2023 at 11:25am:

Does anyone here care what other people think about this ?

My belief is my belief and anyone else is free to believe whatever they like.

I certainly don’t care about your belief. Happy now? 😂🤣😆

After a nice morning at the beach with the Dog how could I not be as happy as ever.

You posts identify your lack of caring so synonymous with the right in general so no need to say.

Larry identifies, loudly, as a christian, Dunno why he bothers, his foul behavior shows him to be a self-declared christian—an arsehole.

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Re: Does Atheism really exist?
Reply #328 - Sep 29^th, 2023 at 11:58am

Dnarever wrote on Sep 29^th, 2023 at 11:52am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 29^th, 2023 at 11:38am:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 29^th, 2023 at 11:25am:

Does anyone here care what other people think about this ?

My belief is my belief and anyone else is free to believe whatever they like.

I certainly don’t care about your belief. Happy now? 😂🤣😆

After a nice morning at the beach with the Dog how could I not be as happy as ever.

You posts identify your lack of caring so synonymous with the right in general so no need to say.

Puddle Duck

Why would you expect me to be concerned about/care about you and/or what you did this morning? You’re just some random online ID. For all I know you could well be an AI controlled ID.

Don’t take this personally but you may not even be a person. And as you profess to be an atheist...surely you don’t expect me to simply believe YOU actually exist? Why that would make you a hypocrite and a tosspot. Wouldn’t it Puddle Duck?

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Does Atheism really exist? Reply #329 - Sep 29^th, 2023 at 12:03pm Anyway....has anyone seen Mattyfisk Linus this morning?
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Question: Atheism - how do YOU define it?
Not believing in GOD? 6 (50.0%) Believing in NO GOD? 6 (50.0%) Total votes: 12 « Created by: Lisa Jones on: Sep 28^th, 2023 at 11:29am »