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Re: Does Atheism really exist?
Reply #630 - Oct 6^th, 2023 at 7:46pm

Frank wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 7:45pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 7:40pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 7:38pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 7:17pm:

Look neckbeard, what i said is that religion is at the heart of most of the world's misery not the cause of it.

Anything new?

Rainbow Serpent, Muhammad and Allah are responsible for Aboriginal and Muslim misery.

Christ is responsible for your misery. Atheism is responsible for North Korean, Chinese and Soviet misery.

The only happy people in the world are the Mothras.

But i asked your god for a worthy adversary!

More of Frank's kind of proof in his nonexistence.

Oh, so you DO speak to god.

You are repudiating what you cannot be without.

Where did i repudiate god?

I clearly said i was agnostic.

Can anyone on this godforsaken forum debate constructively and honestly?

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Re: Does Atheism really exist?
Reply #631 - Oct 6^th, 2023 at 7:50pm

mothra wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 7:45pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 7:41pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 7:36pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 7:29pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 7:26pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 7:22pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 7:17pm:

Look neckbeard, what i said is that religion is at the heart of most of the world's misery not the cause of it.

So, you're now saying that what you meant is that religion is at the heart of most of the world's misery not the cause of it.

What could 'at the heart of' mean other than 'the cause of'?

A distinction without a difference?

Or are you saying that religion just happened to be hanging around on the sidelines (an accidental witness?) when misery was upon the people?

Think. What do people, particularly throughout history, think when a disaster or ill-fortune of any kind occurs?

And how have people (and do some still) react to this?

So you're saying 'at the heart of' refers to ancient peoples, in lieu of a rational understanding of actual causes, often blaming god(s) for their misery.

Is that it?

Jesus.

No. I'm saying that religious people have a propensity to lay account for any happening at the feet of their god or gods. So when a natural disaster occurs, religious people may think that they angered or displeased the god, that it's some kind of sign. Throughout the ages, this translates into all sorts of misery for people; from living in fear to being sacrificed on an altar or slaying their last goat.

What shouldn't require saying, for the love of god, is that religion permeates all levels of existence to the believer. The idea that that is a benefit to the majority of those believers is a relatively new idea.

How many Egyptians, Romans, Greeks, Zoroastrians, Buddhists, Hindus, Christians, Muslims etc sacrificed their co-religionists on altars because of natural disasters?

Another strawman. I never said they did.

You're simply argumentative. You do not debate.

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to being sacrificed on an altar

So, none then.

What peoples usually did was they abandoned the god they believed in and adopted the god of victors or the beneficiaries of a natural disaster or who were spared from disaster.

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Re: Does Atheism really exist?
Reply #632 - Oct 6^th, 2023 at 7:58pm

mothra wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 7:36pm:

Jesus.

No. I'm saying that religious people have a propensity to lay account for any happening at the feet of their god or gods. So when a natural disaster occurs, religious people may think that they angered or displeased the god, that it's some kind of sign. Throughout the ages, this translates into all sorts of misery for people; from living in fear to being sacrificed on an altar or slaying their last goat.

What shouldn't require saying, for the love of god, is that religion permeates all levels of existence to the believer. The idea that that is a benefit to the majority of those believers in their present incarnation is a relatively new idea.

You couldn't be more banal if you tried. Calling you cliched and pedestrian is to overestimate you.

Religion has held Aborigines in Stone Age superstitious, magical bondage for 40,000 years. They are very mindful of displeasing their totem animals. Go and educate them about the miserable stupidity of their ways.

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Re: Does Atheism really exist?
Reply #634 - Oct 6^th, 2023 at 8:00pm

mothra wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 7:46pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 7:45pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 7:40pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 7:38pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 7:17pm:

Look neckbeard, what i said is that religion is at the heart of most of the world's misery not the cause of it.

Anything new?

Rainbow Serpent, Muhammad and Allah are responsible for Aboriginal and Muslim misery.

Christ is responsible for your misery. Atheism is responsible for North Korean, Chinese and Soviet misery.

The only happy people in the world are the Mothras.

But i asked your god for a worthy adversary!

More of Frank's kind of proof in his nonexistence.

Oh, so you DO speak to god.

You are repudiating what you cannot be without.

Where did i repudiate god?

I clearly said i was agnostic.

Can anyone on this godforsaken forum debate constructively and honestly?

You are agitating for atheism on this thread.

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Re: Does Atheism really exist?
Reply #635 - Oct 6^th, 2023 at 8:15pm

Frank wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 8:00pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 7:46pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 7:45pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 7:40pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 7:38pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 7:17pm:

Look neckbeard, what i said is that religion is at the heart of most of the world's misery not the cause of it.

Anything new?

Rainbow Serpent, Muhammad and Allah are responsible for Aboriginal and Muslim misery.

Christ is responsible for your misery. Atheism is responsible for North Korean, Chinese and Soviet misery.

The only happy people in the world are the Mothras.

But i asked your god for a worthy adversary!

More of Frank's kind of proof in his nonexistence.

Oh, so you DO speak to god.

You are repudiating what you cannot be without.

Where did i repudiate god?

I clearly said i was agnostic.

Can anyone on this godforsaken forum debate constructively and honestly?

You are agitating for atheism on this thread.

On Yahoo Methra agitated for atheism, narcissism and communism.

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Re: Does Atheism really exist?
Reply #637 - Oct 11^th, 2023 at 10:48am

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 12:41pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 12:01pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 11:47am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 11:37am:

When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

Unfortunately not all make the progression from child- hood, intellectually.

That's true.

For many, psychological development is arrested at puberty.

And only the insane chat to themselves. On OzPol they’re also referred to as Mongs.

Exhibit A

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1645944963/615

Still waitng for your explanation of the significance of the "brackets change", i have no idea what you are talking about. Thank you.

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Re: Does Atheism really exist?
Reply #638 - Oct 11^th, 2023 at 10:57am

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 10:48am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 12:41pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 12:01pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 11:47am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 11:37am:

When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

Unfortunately not all make the progression from child- hood, intellectually.

That's true.

For many, psychological development is arrested at puberty.

And only the insane chat to themselves. On OzPol they’re also referred to as Mongs.

Exhibit A

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1645944963/615

Still waitng for your explanation of the significance of the "brackets change", i have no idea what you are talking about. Thank you.

Have you bothered to click on that link yet? It’s all there.

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Re: Does Atheism really exist?
Reply #639 - Oct 11^th, 2023 at 10:57am

The Hebrew phantom aka 'Jehovah' certainly really exists, regardless of whether atheism exists; it's weird that Jews and Muslims are at one another's throats, because Muhammad also adopted the Hebrew genocidal bronze-age, 'jealous god' Jehovah, as "the One True God".

And poor Jesus (who preached 'blessed are the peace-makers') has been caught up in it all , via the Holy Trinity dogma... hence Biden is standing by ready to eradicate Iran if she steps out of line....

But ironically, neither Jews nor Muslims accept the Trinity.

The "Peoples of the Book"...oh dear....

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Re: Does Atheism really exist?
Reply #641 - Oct 11^th, 2023 at 11:15am

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 10:57am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 10:48am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 12:41pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 12:01pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 11:47am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 11:37am:

When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

Unfortunately not all make the progression from child- hood, intellectually.

That's true.

For many, psychological development is arrested at puberty.

And only the insane chat to themselves. On OzPol they’re also referred to as Mongs.

Exhibit A

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1645944963/615

Still waitng for your explanation of the significance of the "brackets change", i have no idea what you are talking about. Thank you.

Have you bothered to click on that link yet? It’s all there.

Poor Lisa, she thinks the educational MMT thread - with more views than most other threads, has anything to do with this topic with it's dodgy question format.

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Re: Does Atheism really exist?
Reply #642 - Oct 11^th, 2023 at 4:39pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 10:57am:

The Hebrew phantom aka 'Jehovah' certainly really exists, regardless of whether atheism exists; it's weird that Jews and Muslims are at one another's throats, because Muhammad also adopted the Hebrew genocidal bronze-age, 'jealous god' Jehovah, as "the One True God".

And poor Jesus (who preached 'blessed are the peace-makers') has been caught up in it all , via the Holy Trinity dogma... hence Biden is standing by ready to eradicate Iran if she steps out of line....

But ironically, neither Jews nor Muslims accept the Trinity.

The "Peoples of the Book"...oh dear....

Cheeses, you ARE thick.

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Re: Does Atheism really exist?
Reply #643 - Oct 11^th, 2023 at 4:58pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 11:15am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 10:57am:

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 10:48am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 12:41pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 12:01pm:

thegreatdivide wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 11:47am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 6^th, 2023 at 11:37am:

When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

Unfortunately not all make the progression from child- hood, intellectually.

That's true.

For many, psychological development is arrested at puberty.

And only the insane chat to themselves. On OzPol they’re also referred to as Mongs.

Exhibit A

https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1645944963/615

Still waitng for your explanation of the significance of the "brackets change", i have no idea what you are talking about. Thank you.

Have you bothered to click on that link yet? It’s all there.

Poor Lisa, she thinks the educational MMT thread - with more views than most other threads, has anything to do with this topic with it's dodgy question format.

Forget Atheism... I don’t think YOU really exist. You’re just a bot.

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