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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12622 Gender:	Re: Does Atheism really exist? Reply #795 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 10:30am Jasin wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 9:20am: HATERS of Religion which is what Atheism is. On this, a vast number of theologians are self-described atheists, despite their having spent decades studying religion.
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Reply #796 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 10:45am

Jasin wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 9:20am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 8:10am:

53 pages thanks to a bunch of atheists chatting about God.

Such dedication. As a Christian I’m impressed.

I'm not an Atheist Lisa.

I'm Pro-Religious and Pro-Science.

If Atheists had the balls to admit that they are Pro-Science, Pro-Media (especially) and American Music.
Maybe they could enjoy a happier life rather than being HATERS of Religion which is what Atheism is.

Either way, they cease to really exist. Wink

I’m not religious.

In fact I abhor religion (so did Jesus Christ who had 1 interesting word for the religious in his time : WOE!)

I am a Theist...in particular a Christian. I believe in God and I believe in His Son Jesus Christ.

Am I ashamed to confess this? No. Of course not. Am I worthy to even confess this? No. Of course not. None of us are.

Even so ... we ALL have a choice to either accept/refuse God and His Son Jesus Christ into our lives.

At some stage this topic (which YOU started lol) will FINALLY realise that the existence of God is essentially a matter of individual choice.

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Reply #797 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 10:50am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 10:30am:

Jasin wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 9:20am:

HATERS of Religion which is what Atheism is.

On this, a vast number of theologians are self-described atheists, despite their having spent decades studying religion.

Theologians are religious zealots. As such they’ve been around for some time. Jesus Christ himself didn’t hold back when he addressed them by using scathing adjectives/nouns.

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Reply #798 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 11:23am

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 10:50am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 10:30am:

Jasin wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 9:20am:

HATERS of Religion which is what Atheism is.

On this, a vast number of theologians are self-described atheists, despite their having spent decades studying religion.

Theologians are religious zealots. As such they’ve been around for some time. Jesus Christ himself didn’t hold back when he addressed them by using scathing adjectives/nouns.

Many theologians - those who study religion - openly admit they are atheists, or at the very least agnostics.

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Reply #799 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 11:40am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 11:23am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 10:50am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 10:30am:

Jasin wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 9:20am:

HATERS of Religion which is what Atheism is.

On this, a vast number of theologians are self-described atheists, despite their having spent decades studying religion.

Theologians are religious zealots. As such they’ve been around for some time. Jesus Christ himself didn’t hold back when he addressed them by using scathing adjectives/nouns.

Many theologians - those who study religion - openly admit they are atheists, or at the very least agnostics.

That’s correct.

It’s their decision/choice to do so.

Knowledge OF God is not belief/faith IN God.

It ALL comes down to personal choice....a decision to either accept or reject God.

Personally speaking .... nothing would make me happier than to see everyone reject religion but choose to accept God and Jesus Christ.

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 46763 Gender:	Re: Does Atheism really exist? Reply #800 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 12:43pm Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 10:45am: FINALLY realise that the existence of God is essentially a matter of individual choice. That's very Californian in a "whatever's yo bag, man" kinda way.
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Reply #801 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 1:40pm

Frank wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 12:43pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 10:45am:

FINALLY realise that the existence of God is essentially a matter of individual choice.

That's very Californian in a "whatever's yo bag, man" kinda way. Shocked

Well ... that’s just your opinion.

There’s a biblical (New Testament) basis underpinning what I’ve stated. I’ve merely chosen not to elaborate further (mainly because it’s not where the topic is at).

Frank ... I just want to say this here right now out in the open:

My prayer for you is this : that one day you too will choose to accept God and His Son Jesus into your heart and life.

I think we’ll have interesting discussions in Heaven if you do this. Our lives here on Earth are way too short I reckon.

Anyone else who wishes to join us is of course more than welcome.

Warning : Discussions in Heaven continue forever 😂😆🤣

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Does Atheism really exist? Reply #802 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 1:41pm *
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 48853 Gender:	Re: Does Atheism really exist? Reply #803 - Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 3:08pm And Jesus said unto his Jewish people who got the Romans to nail him up on a cross. "Wait till me little brother Hitler gets yas - yar bastards!"
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Reply #804 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 7:48am

Jasin wrote on Oct 31^st, 2023 at 5:18pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Oct 31^st, 2023 at 3:08pm:

Jasin wrote on Oct 31^st, 2023 at 2:29pm:

I'm not scared.
This topic was made to 'test the waters' on different opinions.
The fact that Atheists themselves refuse to admit who they are bias towards for want of embracing it fully and officially, as opposed to their long running Anti-Religious existence.

Not my fault you and Geoff fell into a bit of an obvious trap. Wink

It's only a "trap" if you're so close-minded that you're only accepting information that adheres to your beliefs no matter what is real.

Atheism is a lack of belief in God or gods.

It's in the name, it's clearly defined.

It's rich for you to claim others are refusing to admit anything with the blinkered stance you're taking here. You're all about setting traps and winning.

That's not to say atheists can't be anti-religion because they certainly can. I've never claimed to the contrary.

I've only ever said that atheism alone is not anti-religion, it's just the mindset of an individual who does not believe in God or gods.

To make any claim about atheism just isn't possible.

Tell me, what would it take for you to change your mind on your idea that to be an atheist, one must be anti-religion?

Are you having another Sook lefty Yes voter? Huh

You didn't like that question, did you...

That's what running scared looks like.

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Reply #805 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 8:00am

Jasin wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 9:20am:

HATERS of Religion which is what Atheism is.

This shows how weakly you "believe" in your own position.

It's okay to have a crisis of faith. It's okay to come out the other side with a stronger sense of faith or to lose it all together.

Just be ready for it because it's coming.

The way in most of your arguments here you have to keep demonising those you don't agree with to justify your stance rather than rely on the strength of your position based on the facts or evidence, it's a very Oppression Olympics way of behaving and people mostly have to rely on this tactic because they're afraid they can't justify their opinions.

And you've been doing it in practically every thread we've interacted in since I got back.

It shows the weakness of what you believe in if you're unwilling to defend it without attacking others, or evading questions as you routinely do, of course, while still demanding others answer yours.

There is only so much of that behaviour you can blame on your subconscious. Deep down you know the truth.

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Reply #806 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 8:23am

Frank wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2023 at 9:53am:

...It's confused drivel because you can hold two glaringly contradictory notions simultaneously within the space of two short paragraphs - see highlights - AND being totally oblivious to it.
And then you are asking for an explanation!

Oh dear...

A definition and a description are two different things Frank,
and certainly not "contradictory".

A definition is technically precise, and unequivocally accurate.
A description is non-specific, imprecise and subject to dispute.

Anyway, you didn't answer my questions:

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Can I ask you what, exactly, is your definition of God
and/or gods?

And can you tell me the differences between the
Christian god, and Dionysus, Jupiter, Quetzalcoatl,
Brahma, or the Rainbow Serpent?

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The Heartless Felon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2869 Gender:	Re: Does Atheism really exist? Reply #807 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 8:59am I heard an old song recently that explains how believing in God (the Christian kind) works: "From Monday to Saturday I do as I please. Come Sunday morning, I'm down on my knees."
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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Does Atheism really exist? Reply #808 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 9:13am Ha! I knew it! You’re all a bunch of Atheists! Stop it! 😂🤣😆
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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Does Atheism really exist? Reply #809 - Nov 4^th, 2023 at 9:14am The Heartless Felon wrote on Nov 4^th, 2023 at 8:59am: I heard an old song recently that explains how believing in God (the Christian kind) works: "From Monday to Saturday I do as I please. Come Sunday morning, I'm down on my knees." Umm no ... that’s not how it works. If anything that’s how it doesn’t work.
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Question: Atheism - how do YOU define it?
Not believing in GOD? 6 (50.0%) Believing in NO GOD? 6 (50.0%) Total votes: 12 « Created by: Lisa Jones on: Sep 28^th, 2023 at 11:29am »