Australian Politics Forum - Have you voted yet?

Boris Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4051 Gender:	Re: Have you voted yet? Reply #60 - Oct 7^th, 2023 at 9:50pm They are violent and lawless and they rape murder and eat babies
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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18574 Gender:	Re: Have you voted yet? Reply #61 - Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:16pm We have a major flaw with our voting system. People can vote numerous times. There is nothing stopping people voting at several polling locations. If caught they cannot remove your vote because it doesn't have your name on it.
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AusGeoff Gold Member Offline Sage of Gippsland Posts: 5999 Victoria Gender:	Re: Have you voted yet? Reply #62 - Oct 7^th, 2023 at 11:09pm I used postal voting. Got back my receipt Friday by return mail. And of course... I voted NO. It should be the only vote.
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Reply #63 - Oct 7^th, 2023 at 11:12pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:16pm:

We have a major flaw with our voting system.

People can vote numerous times.

There is nothing stopping people voting at several polling locations.

If caught they cannot remove your vote because it doesn't have your name on it.

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There is nothing stopping people voting at several polling locations.

Except the fines and prison time.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58791 Here Gender:	Re: Have you voted yet? Reply #64 - Oct 7^th, 2023 at 11:14pm AusGeoff wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 11:09pm: I used postal voting. Got back my receipt Friday by return mail. And of course... I voted NO. It should be the only vote. No the form I got allowed one of 2 votes. I do expect the no vote to easily win though. Damn stupid politicians.
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Reply #65 - Oct 7^th, 2023 at 11:18pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:16pm:

We have a major flaw with our voting system.

People can vote numerous times.

There is nothing stopping people voting at several polling locations.

If caught they cannot remove your vote because it doesn't have your name on it.

Nope. People cannot legally vote multiple times.

Detecting multiple voting - How is multiple voting detected? (Section 26).

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Reply #66 - Oct 7^th, 2023 at 11:25pm

AusGeoff wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 11:18pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:16pm:

We have a major flaw with our voting system.

People can vote numerous times.

There is nothing stopping people voting at several polling locations.

If caught they cannot remove your vote because it doesn't have your name on it.

Nope. People cannot legally vote multiple times.

Detecting multiple voting - How is multiple voting detected? (Section 26).

It is really obvious how easily it is detected. They cross your name off the DB when you pick up the paper. Multiple votes will be detected every time.

In Australian elections the rate of multiple voting is 0.01% That is close enough to nothing. They know the percentage because they catch them all.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 105874 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Have you voted yet? Reply #67 - Oct 7^th, 2023 at 11:29pm Send this video to all your friends: It will never be enough.
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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20660 Gordon Gender:	Re: Have you voted yet? Reply #68 - Oct 9^th, 2023 at 1:37pm Yes...I voted
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58791 Here Gender:	Re: Have you voted yet? Reply #69 - Oct 9^th, 2023 at 3:52pm Bobby. wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 11:29pm: Send this video to all your friends: It will never be enough. Do you know that listening to idiots could be your problem ?
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Reply #70 - Oct 9^th, 2023 at 4:03pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:16pm:

We have a major flaw with our voting system.

People can vote numerous times.

There is nothing stopping people voting at several polling locations.

If caught they cannot remove your vote because it doesn't have your name on it.

Actually, voter fraud is negligible in Australian elections

What was claimed

The Australian electoral process does not protect against multiple voting and other types of voter fraud.

The verdict

False. The Australian Electoral Commission has multiple measures to protect the integrity of elections, including cross-referencing electoral rolls and the use of party-appointed scrutineers.

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Reply #71 - Oct 9^th, 2023 at 4:07pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 4:03pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:16pm:

We have a major flaw with our voting system.

People can vote numerous times.

There is nothing stopping people voting at several polling locations.

If caught they cannot remove your vote because it doesn't have your name on it.

Actually, voter fraud is negligible in Australian elections

What was claimed

The Australian electoral process does not protect against multiple voting and other types of voter fraud.

The verdict

False. The Australian Electoral Commission has multiple measures to protect the integrity of elections, including cross-referencing electoral rolls and the use of party-appointed scrutineers.

Well, I could go to, say, 15 polling booths and vote 15 time under someone's name. At the end of they day, they will identify that someone voted 15 times but they will not be able to identify and remove the actual ballot papers with the fradulent multiple votes. Those fake votes would stay counted.

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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Crocodile Hunter: Origins Posts: 25015 Rockhampton Gender:	Re: Have you voted yet? Reply #72 - Oct 9^th, 2023 at 4:25pm I voted today at the Showgrounds pavilion. Took more time to find a parking spot than it did to get my name marked off and to write two letters in the answer box. The volunteers were very polite today. I wonder if that would change by Saturday.
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Reply #73 - Oct 9^th, 2023 at 4:31pm

Frank wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 4:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 4:03pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 7^th, 2023 at 10:16pm:

We have a major flaw with our voting system.

People can vote numerous times.

There is nothing stopping people voting at several polling locations.

If caught they cannot remove your vote because it doesn't have your name on it.

Actually, voter fraud is negligible in Australian elections

What was claimed

The Australian electoral process does not protect against multiple voting and other types of voter fraud.

The verdict

False. The Australian Electoral Commission has multiple measures to protect the integrity of elections, including cross-referencing electoral rolls and the use of party-appointed scrutineers.

Well, I could go to, say, 15 polling booths and vote 15 time under someone's name. At the end of they day, they will identify that someone voted 15 times but they will not be able to identify and remove the actual ballot papers with the fradulent multiple votes. Those fake votes would stay counted.

If the AEC read your proposition they may choose to do this:

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Injunction:

Section 383 of the Electoral Act provides that the Federal Court may grant an injunction against a person who has engaged, is engaging, or is proposing to engage in any activity that contravenes the Electoral Act (or other Commonwealth law as it relates to elections) to restrain them from engaging in the conduct. Section 383 specifies that either a candidate in the election or the AEC may apply to the Federal Court for an injunction. Electors who are not candidates are not able to independently apply to the Federal Court for an injunction and should instead notify the AEC.

Section 139 of the Referendum Act provides for similar injunctions in relation to activities that contravene the Referendum Act. Section 139 specifies that only the AEC may apply to the Federal Court for an injunction. All other persons are not able to independently apply to the Federal Court for an injunction and should instead notify the AEC.

OR: This

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36. Additionally, and as outlined above, an elector who has been convicted of multi-voting or is otherwise reasonably suspected of doing so may be declared a ‘designated elector.’ Designated electors may only vote by declaration vote. This additional measure ensures that only the first declaration vote received from that elector is admitted to the scrutiny process.

There are good reasons that we have about 0.01% of multiple votes in most elections.

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: Have you voted yet? Reply #74 - Oct 9^th, 2023 at 4:35pm Hmmm I wonder how many dead people vote in Australia (they apparently do vote in the USA ya know). 😳
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