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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 44450 Gender:	Re: Israel At War Reply #1020 - Dec 17^th, 2023 at 6:08am Aussie wrote on Dec 16^th, 2023 at 9:49am: So, the IDF shoots three of the hostages...their own people. Does anyone else see what follows from that? “Immediate lessons from the event have been learned, which have been passed on to all IDF troops in the field,” it added, expressing “deep remorse over the tragic incident”.
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Reply #1021 - Dec 17^th, 2023 at 6:54am

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 16^th, 2023 at 10:28pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 16^th, 2023 at 1:51pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 16^th, 2023 at 9:49am:

So, the IDF shoots three of the hostages...their own people.

Does anyone else see what follows from that?

No-one??

Can you cite any details on how this happened?

If i was held hostage in a tunnel with opportunity to escape i would grab one of the numerous AK47s Hamas have stashed.

I would also grab Hamas facecovering for escape so any hamas encountered would think i was one of them before i shot them.

I would still have AK47 when leaving tunnel which to the IDF might look like a terrorist leaving tunnel causing me a few problems.
That is what i would be doing.

We don't have the details the jew haters never wait for facts.

They were unarmed, and carrying a white flag.

Tsk tsk Roll Eyes

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Reply #1022 - Dec 17^th, 2023 at 8:02am

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 16^th, 2023 at 10:28pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 16^th, 2023 at 1:51pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 16^th, 2023 at 9:49am:

So, the IDF shoots three of the hostages...their own people.

Does anyone else see what follows from that?

No-one??

Can you cite any details on how this happened?

If i was held hostage in a tunnel with opportunity to escape i would grab one of the numerous AK47s Hamas have stashed.

I would also grab Hamas facecovering for escape so any hamas encountered would think i was one of them before i shot them.

I would still have AK47 when leaving tunnel which to the IDF might look like a terrorist leaving tunnel causing me a few problems.
That is what i would be doing.

We don't have the details the jew haters never wait for facts.

From the New York Times:

Quote:

The three Israeli hostages who were killed by Israeli forces in Gaza on Friday had emerged shirtless from a building and were bearing a makeshift white flag when they were shot, the military said on Saturday. The troubling details of how they died have created widespread anguish in Israel and prompted renewed calls for another temporary truce and a deal to allow more hostages to be released.

Lt. Gen. Herzi Halevy, the Israeli military chief of staff, said the three hostages had done “everything so that we would understand” that they were harmless. Nonetheless, Israeli troops shot and killed them, in an incident which shocked a country already deeply concerned about the fate of its remaining hostages in Gaza. He said the shooting violated the military’s rules of engagement.

“It is forbidden to shoot at those who raise a white flag and seek to surrender,” General Halevy said, adding, “The Israel Defense Forces, and myself as its commander, are responsible for what happened.”

Bunch of murderous arseholes.

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Jasin Gold Member Online Posts: 47355 Gender:	Re: Israel At War Reply #1023 - Dec 17^th, 2023 at 8:07am More would have died by illicit drugs and alcohol consumptions at a Musical excuse for self destruction and violence. I mean, HAMAS was probably sent in a rage from that Music Event anyway. Musicians are Evil.
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Reply #1024 - Dec 17^th, 2023 at 8:50am

Trigger happy IDF shoot their own men:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67738111

Israel Gaza: Hostages were carrying white cloth when shot, IDF says

1 hour ago

Three Israeli hostages mistakenly killed by Israeli soldiers in Gaza were shot dead while holding a white cloth, an Israeli military official says.

The official said the case was "against our rules of engagement" and an investigation was happening at the "highest level".

The hostages - Yotam Haim, 28, Samer Talalka, 22, and Alon Shamriz, 26 - were killed in Shejaiya on Friday.

Israeli troops have been facing stiff resistance in the area near Gaza City.

The case will add pressure on Israeli authorities to reach a deal for the release of captives who remain in Gaza.

More than 120 people remain hostage in Gaza, after being abducted in the Hamas attacks on 7 October. The wait of their families has gripped Israel, as the military carries out its offensive against Hamas.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told a news conference on Saturday evening that there would be no let-up in the Israeli operations.

"Military pressure is necessary both for the return of the hostages and for victory. Without military pressure... we have nothing," Mr Netanyahu said.

Hamas, for its part, said it had told mediators there would be no negotiations to release hostages "unless the aggression against our people stops once and for all".

An Israeli military official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said an initial investigation by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) suggested the three hostages emerged shirtless from a building, with one carrying a stick with a white cloth.

One of the soldiers, the official added, felt threatened, as the men were at a distance of tens of metres, declared them "terrorists" and opened fired. Two were immediately killed while the third, wounded, returned to the building.

A cry for help was heard in Hebrew and the battalion commander ordered the troops to cease fire. The wounded hostage later re-emerged, and was shot and killed, the official said.

The hostages had either been abandoned by their captors or escaped, the official added.

Meanwhile a freed Thai hostage who was held with the three men recalled his time with them.

Wichian Temthong, 37, said he was "very shocked" and "saddened" to learn of the deaths of the men he spent nearly 50 days in captivity with.

He said they had no common language so they used hand signals to communicate and give each other moral support.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 102902 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Israel At War Reply #1025 - Dec 17^th, 2023 at 8:50am flip
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74218 Gender:	Re: Israel At War Reply #1027 - Dec 17^th, 2023 at 8:54am The idf aren't after hamas, they're Jutland clearing and they don't care who they kill
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Reply #1028 - Dec 17^th, 2023 at 4:14pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 17^th, 2023 at 8:02am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 16^th, 2023 at 10:28pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 16^th, 2023 at 1:51pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 16^th, 2023 at 9:49am:

So, the IDF shoots three of the hostages...their own people.

Does anyone else see what follows from that?

No-one??

Can you cite any details on how this happened?

If i was held hostage in a tunnel with opportunity to escape i would grab one of the numerous AK47s Hamas have stashed.

I would also grab Hamas facecovering for escape so any hamas encountered would think i was one of them before i shot them.

I would still have AK47 when leaving tunnel which to the IDF might look like a terrorist leaving tunnel causing me a few problems.
That is what i would be doing.

We don't have the details the jew haters never wait for facts.

From the New York Times:

Quote:

The three Israeli hostages who were killed by Israeli forces in Gaza on Friday had emerged shirtless from a building and were bearing a makeshift white flag when they were shot, the military said on Saturday. The troubling details of how they died have created widespread anguish in Israel and prompted renewed calls for another temporary truce and a deal to allow more hostages to be released.

Lt. Gen. Herzi Halevy, the Israeli military chief of staff, said the three hostages had done “everything so that we would understand” that they were harmless. Nonetheless, Israeli troops shot and killed them, in an incident which shocked a country already deeply concerned about the fate of its remaining hostages in Gaza. He said the shooting violated the military’s rules of engagement.

“It is forbidden to shoot at those who raise a white flag and seek to surrender,” General Halevy said, adding, “The Israel Defense Forces, and myself as its commander, are responsible for what happened.”

Bunch of murderous arseholes.

The Israelis are honest about their mistakes unlike Hamas who claimed Israel bombed their hospital when it was Palestine islamic Jihad rocket.

A ceasefire command was given by Battalion commander one of the grunts shot these Israelis.

It's war it gets ugly cite one war where there has been no friendly fire incidents or innocent civilians killed.

US Patriot missile shot down British Tornado jet returning to base in Iraq.

Hamas fight in civilian clothes this is a fact which is proven by videos hamas have released.

IDF on this incident.

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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18262 Gender:	Re: Israel At War Reply #1029 - Dec 17^th, 2023 at 4:18pm Quote: Bill Maher @billmaher All wars end with negotiation, but it's hard to negotiate when the other side's bargaining position is "you all die and disappear." https://twitter.com/billmaher/status/1735886698360586367 I agree with Bill on this one
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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18262 Gender:	Re: Israel At War Reply #1030 - Dec 17^th, 2023 at 4:21pm Quote: HamISIS sewer rat just took his last selfie. https://twitter.com/TheMossadIL/status/1735392530173231126 Israel clearing out tunnels.
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Reply #1031 - Dec 17^th, 2023 at 4:24pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 17^th, 2023 at 4:14pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 17^th, 2023 at 8:02am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 16^th, 2023 at 10:28pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 16^th, 2023 at 1:51pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 16^th, 2023 at 9:49am:

So, the IDF shoots three of the hostages...their own people.

Does anyone else see what follows from that?

No-one??

Can you cite any details on how this happened?

If i was held hostage in a tunnel with opportunity to escape i would grab one of the numerous AK47s Hamas have stashed.

I would also grab Hamas facecovering for escape so any hamas encountered would think i was one of them before i shot them.

I would still have AK47 when leaving tunnel which to the IDF might look like a terrorist leaving tunnel causing me a few problems.
That is what i would be doing.

We don't have the details the jew haters never wait for facts.

From the New York Times:

Quote:

The three Israeli hostages who were killed by Israeli forces in Gaza on Friday had emerged shirtless from a building and were bearing a makeshift white flag when they were shot, the military said on Saturday. The troubling details of how they died have created widespread anguish in Israel and prompted renewed calls for another temporary truce and a deal to allow more hostages to be released.

Lt. Gen. Herzi Halevy, the Israeli military chief of staff, said the three hostages had done “everything so that we would understand” that they were harmless. Nonetheless, Israeli troops shot and killed them, in an incident which shocked a country already deeply concerned about the fate of its remaining hostages in Gaza. He said the shooting violated the military’s rules of engagement.

“It is forbidden to shoot at those who raise a white flag and seek to surrender,” General Halevy said, adding, “The Israel Defense Forces, and myself as its commander, are responsible for what happened.”

Bunch of murderous arseholes.

The Israelis are honest about their mistakes unlike Hamas who claimed Israel bombed their hospital when it was Palestine islamic Jihad rocket.

A ceasefire command was given by Battalion commander one of the grunts shot these Israelis.

It's war it gets ugly cite one war where there has been no friendly fire incidents or innocent civilians killed.

US Patriot missile shot down British Tornado jet returning to base in Iraq.

Hamas fight in civilian clothes this is a fact which is proven by videos hamas have released.

IDF on this incident.

How did this mistake happen IN THE ABSENCE of a policy of "If it's in Gaza and it moves without wearing an IDF uniform...shoot it."

Will the c

unts

who murdered those three Israelis get the same fair trial they handed to the three innocents they slaughtered?

No way. It is now proven that IDF policy is to wipe out anything in their way in Gaza.

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Reply #1032 - Dec 17^th, 2023 at 4:33pm

Aussie wrote on Dec 17^th, 2023 at 4:24pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 17^th, 2023 at 4:14pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 17^th, 2023 at 8:02am:

Baronvonrort wrote on Dec 16^th, 2023 at 10:28pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 16^th, 2023 at 1:51pm:

Aussie wrote on Dec 16^th, 2023 at 9:49am:

So, the IDF shoots three of the hostages...their own people.

Does anyone else see what follows from that?

No-one??

Can you cite any details on how this happened?

If i was held hostage in a tunnel with opportunity to escape i would grab one of the numerous AK47s Hamas have stashed.

I would also grab Hamas facecovering for escape so any hamas encountered would think i was one of them before i shot them.

I would still have AK47 when leaving tunnel which to the IDF might look like a terrorist leaving tunnel causing me a few problems.
That is what i would be doing.

We don't have the details the jew haters never wait for facts.

From the New York Times:

Quote:

The three Israeli hostages who were killed by Israeli forces in Gaza on Friday had emerged shirtless from a building and were bearing a makeshift white flag when they were shot, the military said on Saturday. The troubling details of how they died have created widespread anguish in Israel and prompted renewed calls for another temporary truce and a deal to allow more hostages to be released.

Lt. Gen. Herzi Halevy, the Israeli military chief of staff, said the three hostages had done “everything so that we would understand” that they were harmless. Nonetheless, Israeli troops shot and killed them, in an incident which shocked a country already deeply concerned about the fate of its remaining hostages in Gaza. He said the shooting violated the military’s rules of engagement.

“It is forbidden to shoot at those who raise a white flag and seek to surrender,” General Halevy said, adding, “The Israel Defense Forces, and myself as its commander, are responsible for what happened.”

Bunch of murderous arseholes.

The Israelis are honest about their mistakes unlike Hamas who claimed Israel bombed their hospital when it was Palestine islamic Jihad rocket.

A ceasefire command was given by Battalion commander one of the grunts shot these Israelis.

It's war it gets ugly cite one war where there has been no friendly fire incidents or innocent civilians killed.

US Patriot missile shot down British Tornado jet returning to base in Iraq.

Hamas fight in civilian clothes this is a fact which is proven by videos hamas have released.

IDF on this incident.

How did this mistake happen IN THE ABSENCE of a policy of "If it's in Gaza and it moves without wearing an IDF uniform...shoot it."

Will the c

unts

who murdered those three Israelis get the same fair trial they handed to the three innocents they slaughtered?

No way. It is now proven that IDF policy is to wipe out anything in their way in Gaza.

If you watched Lt Col Conricus you might understand it a bit better.

What are these Hamas terrorists wearing while firing anti tank RPGs at Israelis?

Do you want me to post more videos of hamas attacking Israelis while wearing civilian clothes?

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Gaza Ministry of Health
@GazaHealth

These are the civilians the occupation army is attacking. You can tell they are civilians because they're wearing clothes worn by civilians.

https://twitter.com/GazaHealth/status/1722331842903154898

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Aussie Gold Member Online OzPolitic Posts: 38521 Gender:	Re: Israel At War Reply #1033 - Dec 17^th, 2023 at 4:39pm I watched the IDF spin doctor arsehole who left out the bit about these slaughtered three carrying a white flag.
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Baronvonrort Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18262 Gender:	Re: Israel At War Reply #1034 - Dec 17^th, 2023 at 4:40pm Lots of videos posted by Hamas online. Quote: A wolf in sheep's clothing. Who’s going to tell Hamas that a terrorist in civilian clothes is still a terrorist? https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1723897129268072934 Hamas fight in civilian clothes so they can claim every hamas fighter killed is a civilian.
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