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Re: Iarael At War
Reply #150 - Oct 12^th, 2023 at 9:14pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 8^th, 2023 at 12:33pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 8^th, 2023 at 12:11pm:

Jasin wrote on Oct 8^th, 2023 at 11:31am:

What the Germans did to the Jews via the Prophet Hitler
(because of what the Jews did to the Messiah Jesus)

Hitler and the Nazis saw Jews as a socialist/communist fifth column who had a stranglehold on the German economy which caused its collapse.

Hitler saw the jews as something else entirely! Nothing to do with socialism/communism! In “Mein Kampf” in one of the few bits I remember Adolf Schicklgruber went on a multi paragraph paroxysm of rage and disgust—an Orthodox Jew had crossed his path. Nah, it was not politics at all that led to the Holocaust.

Meister—stick to science.

Eckhart is correct.

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Re: Israel At War
Reply #151 - Oct 12^th, 2023 at 9:14pm

aquascoot wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 6:47pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 5:46pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 3:43pm:

any thoughts, matty fisk, on why fellow muslims in egypt have increased border security and say they will not allow any palestinians to cross the border into egypt?

dont these people have the right to claim assylum from a war zone?

Hamas is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood which originated and is banned in Egypt for being a terrorist group.

makes sense, a lot more sense then matty fisk makes

Hamas IS the Muslim Brotherhood. It's the opening statement of their charter.

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Estragon: I can’t go on like this.
Vladimir: That’s what you think.

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Re: Israel At War
Reply #153 - Oct 12^th, 2023 at 9:18pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 8:56pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 7:18pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 7:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 7:07pm:

dear Aqua,
I have a spare battery supply that can run small lights or charge a phone etc.
I'll need to get some more food.
I'll be OK as I have my Bible ready too.

you are like denzel washington in the book of eli

Please explain?

Read your Wayne Dyer, Bobby.

All covered in your Erroneous Zones.

You might want to ask Aquascoot for a link.

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 43643 Gender:	Re: Israel At War Reply #154 - Oct 12^th, 2023 at 9:22pm On 29 November 1947 the UN General Assembly voted on the partition plan, adopted by 33 votes to 13 with 10 abstentions. The Jewish side accepted the UN plan for the establishment of two states. The Arabs rejected it and launched a war of annihilation against the Jewish state.. History.
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Re: Israel At War
Reply #155 - Oct 12^th, 2023 at 9:36pm

Frank wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 9:14pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 6:47pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 5:46pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 3:43pm:

any thoughts, matty fisk, on why fellow muslims in egypt have increased border security and say they will not allow any palestinians to cross the border into egypt?

dont these people have the right to claim assylum from a war zone?

Hamas is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood which originated and is banned in Egypt for being a terrorist group.

makes sense, a lot more sense then matty fisk makes

Hamas IS the Muslim Brotherhood. It's the opening statement of their charter.

There is the reason for Egypt closing their border with Gaza.

Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain and Egypt list the Brotherhood as a terrorist organisation.

We don't list the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist group. Hamas and Hezbollah were listed in 2022.
https://www.nationalsecurity.gov.au/what-australia-is-doing/terrorist-organisati...

The Australians who support Hamas are supporting a Terrorist group.

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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

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Mattyfisk Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 94468 Gender:	Re: Israel At War Reply #156 - Oct 12^th, 2023 at 10:49pm aquascoot wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 9:16pm: Hi, Aquascoot. Do you wish to see the Palestinian people erased from Gaza and the West Bank? A simple yes or no will suffice.
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Re: Israel At War
Reply #157 - Oct 12^th, 2023 at 11:14pm

Frank wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 9:22pm:

On 29 November 1947 the UN General Assembly voted on the partition plan, adopted by 33 votes to 13 with 10 abstentions. The Jewish side accepted the UN plan for the establishment of two states. The Arabs rejected it and launched a war of annihilation against the Jewish state..

History.

Just so. But the story didn't end there, eh?

Quote:

The Arab population of the Mandate territory suffered as a result of the Arab refusal to accept the partition plan. Some 700,000 heeded their leaders' calls to flee or left after being caught up in the fighting. The large numbers who stayed in Israel became full citizens, with equal rights, while their brethren were kept by their Arab hosts in perpetual refugee status to serve as pawns in the political struggle against Israel.

Meanwhile, some 800,000 Jews were expelled from Arab countries, finding refuge and a new home in Israel.

At war's end, Egypt had control of the Gaza Strip and Jordan annexed the West Bank. Neither saw fit to establish a Palestinian state in the territory they were to control for 19 years until the Six Day War of 1967.

https://mfa.gov.il/Jubilee-years/Pages/1947-UN-General-Assembly-Resolution-181-T...

Palestinians were used as pawns by neighbouring states. They had lived there, on their own land in their own towns and cities, for centuries. When Israel took the West Bank and Gaza strip in 67, they took the land of Jordanians and Egyptians too.

1967. That's two generations ago. Israel imported settlers to squat illegally on the Arabs' seized land, armed and trained the settlers in military tactics and overlooked their crimes against the local population. They overzealously prosecuting the latter, many of them children, often for "tresspass" on their own land. They erected checkpoints, fortifications, trenches and razor wire. Those squatters gave the locals hell, and the rest - October 2023 - is history.

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Re: Israel At War
Reply #158 - Oct 13^th, 2023 at 1:56am

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 9:36pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 9:14pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 6:47pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 5:46pm:

aquascoot wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 3:43pm:

any thoughts, matty fisk, on why fellow muslims in egypt have increased border security and say they will not allow any palestinians to cross the border into egypt?

dont these people have the right to claim assylum from a war zone?

Hamas is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood which originated and is banned in Egypt for being a terrorist group.

makes sense, a lot more sense then matty fisk makes

Hamas IS the Muslim Brotherhood. It's the opening statement of their charter.

There is the reason for Egypt closing their border with Gaza.

Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain and Egypt list the Brotherhood as a terrorist organisation.

We don't list the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist group. Hamas and Hezbollah were listed in 2022.
https://www.nationalsecurity.gov.au/what-australia-is-doing/terrorist-organisati...

The Australians who support Hamas are supporting a Terrorist group.

Pretty much. The ALPoofter Party is spineless. They'll be waving rainbow flags at the Opera House with them soon.

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Re: Israel At War
Reply #159 - Oct 13^th, 2023 at 2:09am

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 9:14pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 8^th, 2023 at 12:33pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 8^th, 2023 at 12:11pm:

Jasin wrote on Oct 8^th, 2023 at 11:31am:

What the Germans did to the Jews via the Prophet Hitler
(because of what the Jews did to the Messiah Jesus)

Hitler and the Nazis saw Jews as a socialist/communist fifth column who had a stranglehold on the German economy which caused its collapse.

Hitler saw the jews as something else entirely! Nothing to do with socialism/communism! In “Mein Kampf” in one of the few bits I remember Adolf Schicklgruber went on a multi paragraph paroxysm of rage and disgust—an Orthodox Jew had crossed his path. Nah, it was not politics at all that led to the Holocaust.

Meister—stick to science.

Eckhart is correct.

If it wasn't Hitler, because he got killed by a falling pot of petulia's as a kid. Someone else would have filled the niche that was always going to appear.
Just like World War 1 was always going to happen. If it wasn't an Archduke being assassinated, there was always going to be another 'match' to start the fire that was already set up to burn.

Fact is, as a Jew - I know that karma bit us in the arse.
Our 'Frankenstein' creation in Europe killed it's creator.

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 47261 Gender:	Re: Israel At War Reply #160 - Oct 13^th, 2023 at 2:16am 10,000 Cronulla-Sutherland boys are going to have a 'renaissance party' at the Opera House. All welcome.
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Re: Israel At War
Reply #161 - Oct 13^th, 2023 at 6:30am

Both sides can't stop murdering each other:
It's turned into a murdering fever that cannot be stopped.

https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-news-hamas-war-10-12-23/inde...

17 min ago

Death toll in Gaza rises to 1,537, health ministry says

From CNN’s Ibrahim Dahman and Kareem Khadder

At least 1,537 Palestinians have been killed since Israel started strikes on Gaza following the deadly Hamas attack last Saturday, according to the Palestinian Ministry of Health in Gaza.

The death toll includes 500 children and 267 women.
An additional 6,612 people have been injured, the ministry added.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 73822 Gender:	Re: Israel At War Reply #162 - Oct 13^th, 2023 at 7:44am Bobby. wrote on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 6:30am: Both sides can't stop murdering each other: It's turned into a murdering fever that cannot be stopped. pretty much. No side is innocent, each are just as bad as the other.
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Re: Israel At War
Reply #163 - Oct 13^th, 2023 at 7:47am

John Smith wrote on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 7:44am:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 6:30am:

Both sides can't stop murdering each other:
It's turned into a murdering fever that cannot be stopped.

pretty much. No side is innocent, each are just as bad as the other.

Yes, and we should stay out of it. Condemn terrorist arsehole conduct on BOTH sides.

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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11230 Gender:	Re: Israel At War Reply #164 - Oct 13^th, 2023 at 7:59am Quoting Douglas Murray 'Israel is the only country in the world that's not allowed to win a war'.
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