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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 38431 Gender:	Re: Israel At War Reply #165 - Oct 13^th, 2023 at 8:03am MeisterEckhart wrote on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 7:59am: Quoting Douglas Murray 'Israel is the only country in the world that's not allowed to win a war'. It will never get my support in any War while it conducts itself as it does. Did you watch Foreign Correspondent last night?
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Reply #166 - Oct 13^th, 2023 at 8:36am

John Smith wrote on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 7:44am:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 6:30am:

Both sides can't stop murdering each other:
It's turned into a murdering fever that cannot be stopped.

pretty much. No side is innocent, each are just as bad as the other.

The Israelis would happily put an end to it. They try to all the time. Only the Muslims are ideologically committed to war.

For some reason, it is not enough when Muslims actually tell you this. There is just no getting through.

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Reply #167 - Oct 13^th, 2023 at 9:12am

Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 11:14pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 9:22pm:

On 29 November 1947 the UN General Assembly voted on the partition plan, adopted by 33 votes to 13 with 10 abstentions. The Jewish side accepted the UN plan for the establishment of two states. The Arabs rejected it and launched a war of annihilation against the Jewish state..

History.

Just so. But the story didn't end there, eh?

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The Arab population of the Mandate territory suffered as a result of the Arab refusal to accept the partition plan. Some 700,000 heeded their leaders' calls to flee or left after being caught up in the fighting. The large numbers who stayed in Israel became full citizens, with equal rights, while their brethren were kept by their Arab hosts in perpetual refugee status to serve as pawns in the political struggle against Israel.

Meanwhile, some 800,000 Jews were expelled from Arab countries, finding refuge and a new home in Israel.

At war's end, Egypt had control of the Gaza Strip and Jordan annexed the West Bank. Neither saw fit to establish a Palestinian state in the territory they were to control for 19 years until the Six Day War of 1967.

https://mfa.gov.il/Jubilee-years/Pages/1947-UN-General-Assembly-Resolution-181-T...

Palestinians were used as pawns by neighbouring states. They had lived there, on their own land in their own towns and cities, for centuries. When Israel took the West Bank and Gaza strip in 67, they took the land of Jordanians and Egyptians too.

1967. That's two generations ago. Israel imported settlers to squat illegally on the Arabs' seized land, armed and trained the settlers in military tactics and overlooked their crimes against the local population. They overzealously prosecuting the latter, many of them children, often for "tresspass" on their own land. They erected checkpoints, fortifications, trenches and razor wire. Those squatters gave the locals hell, and the rest - October 2023 - is history.

Gaza and WB were occupied territories by Egypt and Jordan before1967. Had the Arabs not attacked Iusrael, they would STILL be occupied territories by Egypt and Gaza.

The same in 1947. The Jews accepted the partition, the Arabs started a jihad war instead.

The Jews want peace, the Muslims want jihad to eliminate the Jews. Work the two state solution with that.

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Reply #168 - Oct 13^th, 2023 at 9:24am

Frank wrote on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 9:12am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 11:14pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 9:22pm:

On 29 November 1947 the UN General Assembly voted on the partition plan, adopted by 33 votes to 13 with 10 abstentions. The Jewish side accepted the UN plan for the establishment of two states. The Arabs rejected it and launched a war of annihilation against the Jewish state..

History.

Just so. But the story didn't end there, eh?

Quote:

The Arab population of the Mandate territory suffered as a result of the Arab refusal to accept the partition plan. Some 700,000 heeded their leaders' calls to flee or left after being caught up in the fighting. The large numbers who stayed in Israel became full citizens, with equal rights, while their brethren were kept by their Arab hosts in perpetual refugee status to serve as pawns in the political struggle against Israel.

Meanwhile, some 800,000 Jews were expelled from Arab countries, finding refuge and a new home in Israel.

At war's end, Egypt had control of the Gaza Strip and Jordan annexed the West Bank. Neither saw fit to establish a Palestinian state in the territory they were to control for 19 years until the Six Day War of 1967.

https://mfa.gov.il/Jubilee-years/Pages/1947-UN-General-Assembly-Resolution-181-T...

Palestinians were used as pawns by neighbouring states. They had lived there, on their own land in their own towns and cities, for centuries. When Israel took the West Bank and Gaza strip in 67, they took the land of Jordanians and Egyptians too.

1967. That's two generations ago. Israel imported settlers to squat illegally on the Arabs' seized land, armed and trained the settlers in military tactics and overlooked their crimes against the local population. They overzealously prosecuting the latter, many of them children, often for "tresspass" on their own land. They erected checkpoints, fortifications, trenches and razor wire. Those squatters gave the locals hell, and the rest - October 2023 - is history.

Gaza and WB were occupied territories by Egypt and Jordan before1967. Had the Arabs not attacked Iusrael, they would STILL be occupied territories by Egypt and Gaza.

The same in 1947. The Jews accepted the partition, the Arabs started a jihad war instead.

The Jews want peace, the Muslims want jihad to eliminate the Jews. Work the two state solution with that.

Yes, but are the Jews trying hard enough?

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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11230 Gender:	Re: Israel At War Reply #169 - Oct 13^th, 2023 at 9:53am It needs to be remembered that Hamas was elected in 2006 in Gaza and violently seized control of it from the Palestinian Authority in 2007. There has not been another election since. Hamas, therefore illegally control Gaza and, given its recent actions, should be overthrown and destroyed.
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Reply #170 - Oct 13^th, 2023 at 9:54am

freediver wrote on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 8:36am:

John Smith wrote on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 7:44am:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 6:30am:

Both sides can't stop murdering each other:
It's turned into a murdering fever that cannot be stopped.

pretty much. No side is innocent, each are just as bad as the other.

The Israelis would happily put an end to it. They try to all the time. Only the Muslims are ideologically committed to war.

For some reason, it is not enough when Muslims actually tell you this. There is just no getting through.

The Israeli soldiers shooting innocent civilians over the last 17 years suggests otherwise

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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.

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Reply #171 - Oct 13^th, 2023 at 10:04am

Hamas' refusal to hold elections in Gaza indicates that its leaders are not confident that they would win such an election.

Hamas does not represent the will of the Palestinian people in Gaza and has no mandate to lead them, much less the mandate to provoke Israel into war in their name.

Hamas needs to be removed and destroyed by any means necessary.

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Reply #172 - Oct 13^th, 2023 at 10:18am

John Smith wrote on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 9:54am:

freediver wrote on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 8:36am:

John Smith wrote on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 7:44am:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 6:30am:

Both sides can't stop murdering each other:
It's turned into a murdering fever that cannot be stopped.

pretty much. No side is innocent, each are just as bad as the other.

The Israelis would happily put an end to it. They try to all the time. Only the Muslims are ideologically committed to war.

For some reason, it is not enough when Muslims actually tell you this. There is just no getting through.

The Israeli soldiers shooting innocent civilians over the last 17 years suggests otherwise

No such thing as an 'innocent' civilian in the Moslem world.
Every Moslem person is a supporter of Terrorism which is proven by their lack of opposition to stand against Terrorism of their own accord.
Every Moslem is a Terrorist. Every Moslem wants all non-Moslems dead.

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 82834 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Israel At War Reply #173 - Oct 13^th, 2023 at 11:09am We're going to buy you a special work hat, Smith - one that has the band around it saying - "Caution - Soft Edges"....
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 47261 Gender:	Re: Israel At War Reply #174 - Oct 13^th, 2023 at 11:16am The French know what to do with Pro-Hamas supporters and their Gay Lefty supporters. https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/paris-police-use-water-canons-and-tear-gas-...
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Reply #175 - Oct 13^th, 2023 at 12:15pm

freediver wrote on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 9:24am:

Frank wrote on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 9:12am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 11:14pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 9:22pm:

On 29 November 1947 the UN General Assembly voted on the partition plan, adopted by 33 votes to 13 with 10 abstentions. The Jewish side accepted the UN plan for the establishment of two states. The Arabs rejected it and launched a war of annihilation against the Jewish state..

History.

Just so. But the story didn't end there, eh?

Quote:

The Arab population of the Mandate territory suffered as a result of the Arab refusal to accept the partition plan. Some 700,000 heeded their leaders' calls to flee or left after being caught up in the fighting. The large numbers who stayed in Israel became full citizens, with equal rights, while their brethren were kept by their Arab hosts in perpetual refugee status to serve as pawns in the political struggle against Israel.

Meanwhile, some 800,000 Jews were expelled from Arab countries, finding refuge and a new home in Israel.

At war's end, Egypt had control of the Gaza Strip and Jordan annexed the West Bank. Neither saw fit to establish a Palestinian state in the territory they were to control for 19 years until the Six Day War of 1967.

https://mfa.gov.il/Jubilee-years/Pages/1947-UN-General-Assembly-Resolution-181-T...

Palestinians were used as pawns by neighbouring states. They had lived there, on their own land in their own towns and cities, for centuries. When Israel took the West Bank and Gaza strip in 67, they took the land of Jordanians and Egyptians too.

1967. That's two generations ago. Israel imported settlers to squat illegally on the Arabs' seized land, armed and trained the settlers in military tactics and overlooked their crimes against the local population. They overzealously prosecuting the latter, many of them children, often for "tresspass" on their own land. They erected checkpoints, fortifications, trenches and razor wire. Those squatters gave the locals hell, and the rest - October 2023 - is history.

Gaza and WB were occupied territories by Egypt and Jordan before1967. Had the Arabs not attacked Iusrael, they would STILL be occupied territories by Egypt and Gaza.

The same in 1947. The Jews accepted the partition, the Arabs started a jihad war instead.

The Jews want peace, the Muslims want jihad to eliminate the Jews. Work the two state solution with that.

Yes, but are the Jews trying hard enough?

Hard to say, FD. They've rounded them into ghettos and fenced them off with razor wire. They're yet to impliment the Final Solution. Any day now, no?

We'll have to wait and see what happens.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 100922 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Israel At War Reply #176 - Oct 13^th, 2023 at 12:46pm Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 12:15pm: Hard to say, FD. They've rounded them into ghettos and fenced them off with razor wire. They're yet to impliment the Final Solution. Any day now, no? We'll have to wait and see what happens. Innocent people on both sides have been and will be murdered. It's shocking.
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athos Gold Member Offline Re-educate barbarians Posts: 6389 Hong Kong Gender:	Re: Israel At War Reply #177 - Oct 13^th, 2023 at 1:09pm
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 35059 Gender:	Re: Israel At War Reply #178 - Oct 13^th, 2023 at 1:10pm And Israel is, once again, using white phosphorous on the residents of Gaza. https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/10/12/israel-white-phosphorus-used-gaza-lebanon#:~...
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 73822 Gender:	Re: Israel At War Reply #179 - Oct 13^th, 2023 at 1:10pm mothra wrote on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 1:10pm: And Israel is, once again, using white phosphorous on the residents of Gaza. https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/10/12/israel-white-phosphorus-used-gaza-lebanon#:~... they're innocent
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