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Reply #630 - Oct 22^nd, 2023 at 11:10am

chimera wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2023 at 7:19am:

Bobby. wrote on Oct 21^st, 2023 at 10:15pm:

I think Putin is behind all of this.

Putin wants to cancel Ukrainian culture and statehood as a separate nation, and invades. Israel/US want to cancel Palestine as a nation and invades.

Palestine is not now, and never was, a nation. With its mixed population of Arabs, Jews and Christians, would it have been better if the Turks held the territory in WW1? The British, mostly Australian mounted troups drove the Turks out of Palestine and Syria, thus keeping the Suez route to the east open to all allied nations. You got a problem with that? After the war, smart Arabs worked with their Jewish neighbours to mutual benifit, but the nut-job Muzelum fanatics started frothing at the mouth.

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Reply #631 - Oct 22^nd, 2023 at 11:25am

issuevoter wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2023 at 11:10am:

Palestine is not now, and never was, a nation.

Pakistan was not but UK created it, with mixed Hindu-Muslims. Poland was created in 1945 with mixed German-Poles. Northern Ireland was created from humans I think..(?) Also Nth: Sth Korea, Vietnam. Palestine has people from Philistia 3500 years ago. They look fairly Arabish of Middle East appearance. Same raghead and dressing gowns.

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Reply #632 - Oct 22^nd, 2023 at 11:38am

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-jets-strike-west-banks-jenin-t...

Israel strikes militant compound under West Bank mosque, military says

Reuters
October 22, 2023

RAMALLAH, West Bank, Oct 22 (Reuters) - Israeli aircraft struck a compound beneath a mosque in the occupied West Bank early on Sunday that the military said was being used by militants to organise attacks, and Palestinian medics said at least one person was killed.

The Israeli air strike is at least the second in recent days to hit the West Bank, where violence has surged since Hamas gunmen from Gaza carried out a deadly Oct. 7 rampage in Israel.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 102933 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Israel At War Reply #633 - Oct 22^nd, 2023 at 11:42am High tension!! 10,000 US Army troops arrive at Saudi Arabian air base, what is the US preparing?
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 102933 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Israel At War Reply #634 - Oct 22^nd, 2023 at 11:43am flip
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 47364 Gender:	Re: Israel At War Reply #635 - Oct 22^nd, 2023 at 12:13pm The American Sardaukar are being deployed.
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Reply #636 - Oct 22^nd, 2023 at 12:17pm

'September 1939, German and Soviet troops divided the territory of Poland. Thus, Eastern Galicia and Volhynia with their Ukrainian population became part of Ukraine. For the first time in history, the nation was united'.

So Ukraine didn't exist, 10 years before Palestinian land was divided. In France, the Gauls were expelled to the coast around the time the Jews were removed from Judea. Then German Franks of France and Anglos in Britain have no nation. Gauls, British Celts and Jews do have nations. (Don't mention the American colonies).

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Reply #637 - Oct 22^nd, 2023 at 12:46pm

Consider this. The territory of Palestine was not a nation before the British kicked the Turks out. Egypt did not own the Sinai either. So, when peace was concluded after the Yom Kipper War, why didn't the Egyptian Muzelums give it to Gaza? Look at the map. Here's my guess. Egyptians don't really give a sh1t about their Islamic brothers when it comes to real estate.

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Reply #638 - Oct 22^nd, 2023 at 12:58pm

Egypt will eventually throw off its Moslem, let alone 'monotheistic' garments and re-embrace its unique 'traditional' culture.
Let's hope so. How cool would Egypt be, if everyone there was walking around in 'true' Egyptian fashions. Cool

Reckon the Northern-Western nations above the Sahara will also be reclaimed by their Berber people and push Mohommedism and the Arabs back out.

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Reply #639 - Oct 22^nd, 2023 at 1:19pm

'why didn't the Egyptian Muzelums give it to Gaza?'
Why didn't they let Israel have it? But that doesn't prevent Palestine being a nation. What sensible reason stops them?

The terrible Iranians hate Jews but treat them better than Jews do Palestinians who are expelled from their houses and farms.
'Most Iranian Jews say that they view Iran as their home and are allowed to practice Judaism freely, but there is suspicion and fear too. Despite their Pro-Iranian stance and their refusal to travel to Israel, the Jews of Iran are denounced for betraying Iran by showing loyalty to Israel. However, Iranian Jews are allowed to visit Israel (Even though Iranian passport holders are legally barred from doing so), often through Turkey, and return back. Even the current chief rabbi of the Islamic Republic, Yehuda Gerami, who often shows pro revolutionary and anti-Zionist views, has studied in Yeshivas Ateres Yisrael in Jerusalem'.

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 47364 Gender:	Re: Israel At War Reply #640 - Oct 22^nd, 2023 at 1:26pm When Moslems get their 'Messiah' sacrifice from Christianity. They will be dispossessed from all their nations that will cease to be, because they were founded upon an 'Empire' (that will no longer be) and a Prophet (who will replaced by a Messiah soon). They will become like the wandering Jews of old.
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Reply #641 - Oct 22^nd, 2023 at 1:38pm

Jasin wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2023 at 1:26pm:

When Moslems get their 'Messiah' sacrifice from Christianity.
They will be dispossessed from all their nations that will cease to be, because they were founded upon an 'Empire' (that will no longer be) and a Prophet (who will replaced by a Messiah soon).
They will become like the wandering Jews of old.

Gaza?
Putin did it.
I wonder what else he's done? -
has he supplied weapons/ missiles to hit Israel and the US carriers?

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Reply #642 - Oct 22^nd, 2023 at 2:07pm

'China’s newest hypersonic missile, the DF-27, can fly as far as Hawaii, penetrate U.S. missile defenses and pose a particular threat to U.S. aircraft carriers',
https://theconversation.com/chinas-hypersonic-missiles-threaten-us-power-in-the-...

China has a base at Djibouti Africa. Israel is half the distance as China-Hawaii. This shows the restraint that the US now has to work with.

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Reply #643 - Oct 22^nd, 2023 at 2:11pm

chimera wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2023 at 2:07pm:

'China’s newest hypersonic missile, the DF-27, can fly as far as Hawaii, penetrate U.S. missile defenses and pose a particular threat to U.S. aircraft carriers',
https://theconversation.com/chinas-hypersonic-missiles-threaten-us-power-in-the-...

China has a base at Djibouti Africa. Israel is half the distance as China-Hawaii. This shows the restraint that the US now has to work with.

The world has changed -
missiles are now very sophisticated.

New missiles will be tested in this war to see if they really work.

Will aircraft carriers go the way of the old battleships
which couldn't survive in WW2.

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chimera Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 10912 armidale Gender:	Re: Israel At War Reply #644 - Oct 22^nd, 2023 at 2:20pm Nothing survived in WWII. Although the V2 almost did if Mr H didn't mess around.
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