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Reply #240 - Nov 13^th, 2023 at 2:02pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 1:58pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 1:43pm:

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The original Palestinian complaint against European Jews in Palestine during the 20s and 30s was ethnic, not religious.

Arabs acknowledged a distinction between Semitic Jews whose ancestors had never left Palestine (and did not have complaints against them) and those mass-migrating non-Semitic European Jews.

There was also a difference in cultural lifestyle.

European Jews were largely urbanised, while Arab Palestinians and Semitic Jews in Palestine were largely rural people.

The Palestinian cause began like so many, if not all, ethnic conflicts arise: after a perceived territorial usurpation of a migrating ethnic group displacing an existing ethnic group.

Muslims hate Jews and the left have joined in

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Re: Terrorism supporters who spread lies about Jews
Reply #241 - Nov 13^th, 2023 at 2:07pm

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 2:02pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 1:58pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 1:43pm:

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The original Palestinian complaint against European Jews in Palestine during the 20s and 30s was ethnic, not religious.

Arabs acknowledged a distinction between Semitic Jews whose ancestors had never left Palestine (and did not have complaints against them) and those mass-migrating non-Semitic European Jews.

There was also a difference in cultural lifestyle.

European Jews were largely urbanised, while Arab Palestinians and Semitic Jews in Palestine were largely rural people.

The Palestinian cause began like so many, if not all, ethnic conflicts arise: after a perceived territorial usurpation of a migrating ethnic group displacing an existing ethnic group.

Muslims hate Jews and the left have joined in

Middle Eastern Muslim hatred for Jews in Israel is starting to wane. The notion of Israel's status of having a 'right to exist' is all moot propaganda now - The fact is Israel does exist - and its nearly 7 million Jewish citizens cannot be moved from the region - leaving aside the logistical impossibility of relocating them - no nation would want them immigrating en masse.

It's also a powerful military force that the Arab states regimes are starting to scramble for an alliance with in order to achieve regional dominance within the Islamic Middle East - something Israel is not agitating for.

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Re: Terrorism supporters who spread lies about Jews
Reply #243 - Nov 13^th, 2023 at 2:11pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 1:58pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 1:43pm:

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The original Palestinian complaint against European Jews in Palestine during the 20s and 30s was ethnic, not religious.

Arabs acknowledged a distinction between Semitic Jews whose ancestors had never left Palestine (and did not have complaints against them) and those mass-migrating non-Semitic European Jews.

There was also a difference in cultural lifestyle.

European Jews were largely urbanised, while Arab Palestinians and Semitic Jews in Palestine were largely rural people.

The Palestinian cause began like so many, if not all, ethnic conflicts arise: after a perceived territorial usurpation of a migrating ethnic group displacing an existing ethnic group.

Like a Great Replacement, eh?
A conspiracy in the West, 'struth in Israel.

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Re: Terrorism supporters who spread lies about Jews
Reply #244 - Nov 13^th, 2023 at 2:12pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 2:07pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 2:02pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 1:58pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 1:43pm:

This x 100000

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The original Palestinian complaint against European Jews in Palestine during the 20s and 30s was ethnic, not religious.

Arabs acknowledged a distinction between Semitic Jews whose ancestors had never left Palestine (and did not have complaints against them) and those mass-migrating non-Semitic European Jews.

There was also a difference in cultural lifestyle.

European Jews were largely urbanised, while Arab Palestinians and Semitic Jews in Palestine were largely rural people.

The Palestinian cause began like so many, if not all, ethnic conflicts arise: after a perceived territorial usurpation of a migrating ethnic group displacing an existing ethnic group.

Muslims hate Jews and the left have joined in

Middle Eastern Muslim hatred for Jews in Israel is starting to wane. The notion of Israel's status of having a 'right to exist' is all moot propaganda now - The fact is Israel does exist - and its nearly 7 million Jewish citizens cannot be moved from the region - leaving aside the logistical impossibility of relocating them - no nation would want them immigrating en masse.

It's also a powerful military force that the Arab states regimes are starting to scramble for an alliance with in order to achieve regional dominance within the Islamic Middle East - something Israel is not agitating for.

I think it's more about pragmatism brought about by financial stability which follows political stability.
They know supporting or letting in Palestinian refugees would be a disaster.

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Re: Terrorism supporters who spread lies about Jews
Reply #245 - Nov 13^th, 2023 at 2:13pm

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 2:11pm:

The bizarre thing is, most Israelis are total lefties and vote right wing only for security concerns.

Hello kibbutzim

Jewish socialist leanings were what they were plastered with after the communist revolutions of Europe, with many of communism's leading protagonists being Jewish or part-Jewish.

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Re: Terrorism supporters who spread lies about Jews
Reply #246 - Nov 13^th, 2023 at 2:17pm

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 2:12pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 2:07pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 2:02pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 1:58pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 1:43pm:

This x 100000

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The original Palestinian complaint against European Jews in Palestine during the 20s and 30s was ethnic, not religious.

Arabs acknowledged a distinction between Semitic Jews whose ancestors had never left Palestine (and did not have complaints against them) and those mass-migrating non-Semitic European Jews.

There was also a difference in cultural lifestyle.

European Jews were largely urbanised, while Arab Palestinians and Semitic Jews in Palestine were largely rural people.

The Palestinian cause began like so many, if not all, ethnic conflicts arise: after a perceived territorial usurpation of a migrating ethnic group displacing an existing ethnic group.

Muslims hate Jews and the left have joined in

Middle Eastern Muslim hatred for Jews in Israel is starting to wane. The notion of Israel's status of having a 'right to exist' is all moot propaganda now - The fact is Israel does exist - and its nearly 7 million Jewish citizens cannot be moved from the region - leaving aside the logistical impossibility of relocating them - no nation would want them immigrating en masse.

It's also a powerful military force that the Arab states regimes are starting to scramble for an alliance with in order to achieve regional dominance within the Islamic Middle East - something Israel is not agitating for.

I think it's more about pragmatism brought about by financial stability which follows political stability.
They know supporting or letting in Palestinian refugees would be a disaster.

None of the Middle-Eastern states want the Palestinians. Not the secularist regimes, nor Shia, nor Sunni ones.

The fault line is with the Shia-Sunni chism with both sects' regimes vying for regional religious and political supremacy.

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Re: Terrorism supporters who spread lies about Jews
Reply #247 - Nov 13^th, 2023 at 2:19pm

Frank wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 2:11pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 1:58pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 1:43pm:

This x 100000

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The original Palestinian complaint against European Jews in Palestine during the 20s and 30s was ethnic, not religious.

Arabs acknowledged a distinction between Semitic Jews whose ancestors had never left Palestine (and did not have complaints against them) and those mass-migrating non-Semitic European Jews.

There was also a difference in cultural lifestyle.

European Jews were largely urbanised, while Arab Palestinians and Semitic Jews in Palestine were largely rural people.

The Palestinian cause began like so many, if not all, ethnic conflicts arise: after a perceived territorial usurpation of a migrating ethnic group displacing an existing ethnic group.

Like a Great Replacement, eh?
A conspiracy in the West, 'struth in Israel.

Not a Western conspiracy, but certainly after WW2, Palestine was a convenient dumping ground for Europe's Jews- even better that they wanted to go there anyway. Anti-Jewish sentiment didn't die in Europe after the war.

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Re: Terrorism supporters who spread lies about Jews
Reply #248 - Nov 13^th, 2023 at 3:54pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 2:19pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 2:11pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 1:58pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 1:43pm:

This x 100000

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSNPFhSXv/

The original Palestinian complaint against European Jews in Palestine during the 20s and 30s was ethnic, not religious.

Arabs acknowledged a distinction between Semitic Jews whose ancestors had never left Palestine (and did not have complaints against them) and those mass-migrating non-Semitic European Jews.

There was also a difference in cultural lifestyle.

European Jews were largely urbanised, while Arab Palestinians and Semitic Jews in Palestine were largely rural people.

The Palestinian cause began like so many, if not all, ethnic conflicts arise: after a perceived territorial usurpation of a migrating ethnic group displacing an existing ethnic group.

Like a Great Replacement, eh?
A conspiracy in the West, 'struth in Israel.

Not a Western conspiracy, but certainly after WW2, Palestine was a convenient dumping ground for Europe's Jews- even better that they wanted to go there anyway. Anti-Jewish sentiment didn't die in Europe after the war.

So not a dumping ground then. No Jew was 'dumped' in Israel after WWII.
There are more Jews in the US than in Israel. More Jews speak English than Hebrew.

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Re: Terrorism supporters who spread lies about Jews
Reply #249 - Nov 13^th, 2023 at 3:59pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 2:19pm:

Not a Western conspiracy, but certainly after WW2, Palestine was a convenient dumping ground for Europe's Jews- even better that they wanted to go there anyway. Anti-Jewish sentiment didn't die in Europe after the war.

Indeed -
the Europeans blamed the Jews instead of Hitler for the war.

Jewish banks financed the arms buildup in Germany in the 1930s.
When Hitler couldn't pay them back he went to war.

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Re: Terrorism supporters who spread lies about Jews
Reply #250 - Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:34pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 3:59pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 2:19pm:

Not a Western conspiracy, but certainly after WW2, Palestine was a convenient dumping ground for Europe's Jews- even better that they wanted to go there anyway. Anti-Jewish sentiment didn't die in Europe after the war.

Indeed -
the Europeans blamed the Jews instead of Hitler for the war.

Jewish banks financed the arms buildup in Germany in the 1930s.
When Hitler couldn't pay them back he went to war.

You are out of your mind.
Stay.

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Re: Terrorism supporters who spread lies about Jews
Reply #251 - Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:44pm

Frank wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 3:54pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 2:19pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 2:11pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 1:58pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 1:43pm:

This x 100000

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSNPFhSXv/

The original Palestinian complaint against European Jews in Palestine during the 20s and 30s was ethnic, not religious.

Arabs acknowledged a distinction between Semitic Jews whose ancestors had never left Palestine (and did not have complaints against them) and those mass-migrating non-Semitic European Jews.

There was also a difference in cultural lifestyle.

European Jews were largely urbanised, while Arab Palestinians and Semitic Jews in Palestine were largely rural people.

The Palestinian cause began like so many, if not all, ethnic conflicts arise: after a perceived territorial usurpation of a migrating ethnic group displacing an existing ethnic group.

Like a Great Replacement, eh?
A conspiracy in the West, 'struth in Israel.

Not a Western conspiracy, but certainly after WW2, Palestine was a convenient dumping ground for Europe's Jews- even better that they wanted to go there anyway. Anti-Jewish sentiment didn't die in Europe after the war.

So not a dumping ground then. No Jew was 'dumped' in Israel after WWII.
There are more Jews in the US than in Israel. More Jews speak English than Hebrew.

Given nearly all Jews in Israel speak English and Hebrew, then add in diaspora Jews...

A dumping ground in the sense that Jewish displaced persons after WW2 needed to be out of Europe. Stalin had plans for those in Eastern Europe after the war. Britain and the US did not want to absorb hundreds of thousands of Jewish refugees - notwithstanding that Britain was in no state to take on a refugee wave at the time.

Maybe the British could have asked Australia to take in a tsunami of displaced Jews - i.e. a land with no people settling a people with no land... How would Australia of the 1940s have reacted to that, I wonder.

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Reply #252 - Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:58pm

After the holocaust, middle eastern countries kicked out their remaining Jews. A lot of them ended up in Israel. So those same countries went to war against Israel to try to finish them off. Very similar to what Muhammad did.

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 1:26pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 1:12pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 1:09pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 1:03pm:

When it comes to Jews, you don't need evidence. You know it's true because they are Jews:

Have you spoken to Australian cops about how they prefer to act when confronted with certain ethnic or subcultural internal issues?

Why would Jewish-Israeli cops be any different?

Do you ever feel guilty about spreading anti-Jewish propaganda in support of Islamic terrorists?

Are you saying that referring to Jewish-Israeli attitudes towards Arab-Israelis is now unmentionable?

Even Jewish-Israelis don't deny how they feel about Arab-Israelis, and Arabs in general.

Are you not a free speech advocate?

I'm saying you shouldn't be spreading lies about Jews in support of Islamic terrorists. The fact that you think asking Australian cops is even relevant just demonstrates that you do not even care whether it is true.

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Re: Terrorism supporters who spread lies about Jews
Reply #253 - Nov 13^th, 2023 at 8:06pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:44pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 3:54pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 2:19pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 2:11pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 1:58pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 1:43pm:

This x 100000

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSNPFhSXv/

The original Palestinian complaint against European Jews in Palestine during the 20s and 30s was ethnic, not religious.

Arabs acknowledged a distinction between Semitic Jews whose ancestors had never left Palestine (and did not have complaints against them) and those mass-migrating non-Semitic European Jews.

There was also a difference in cultural lifestyle.

European Jews were largely urbanised, while Arab Palestinians and Semitic Jews in Palestine were largely rural people.

The Palestinian cause began like so many, if not all, ethnic conflicts arise: after a perceived territorial usurpation of a migrating ethnic group displacing an existing ethnic group.

Like a Great Replacement, eh?
A conspiracy in the West, 'struth in Israel.

Not a Western conspiracy, but certainly after WW2, Palestine was a convenient dumping ground for Europe's Jews- even better that they wanted to go there anyway. Anti-Jewish sentiment didn't die in Europe after the war.

So not a dumping ground then. No Jew was 'dumped' in Israel after WWII.
There are more Jews in the US than in Israel. More Jews speak English than Hebrew.

Given nearly all Jews in Israel speak English and Hebrew, then add in diaspora Jews...

A dumping ground in the sense that Jewish displaced persons after WW2 needed to be out of Europe. Stalin had plans for those in Eastern Europe after the war. Britain and the US did not want to absorb hundreds of thousands of Jewish refugees - notwithstanding that Britain was in no state to take on a refugee wave at the time.

Maybe the British could have asked Australia to take in a tsunami of displaced Jews - i.e. a land with no people settling a people with no land... How would Australia of the 1940s have reacted to that, I wonder.

In the aftermath of World War II Australia abandoned its previous Anglo-centric immigration policy and permitted immigration of large numbers of people from continental Europe. Large numbers of European Jews, survivors of the Holocaust, arrived in the country from displaced persons camps.

Most Jews in Australia today are from that cohort and from Jews escaping the Soviet Union in the following decades.

Jews, being vigorous, unlike slovenly, lethargic insh'allah Muslims, add vim and vigour.
Muslims come to life and get energised only about killing Jews. Otherwise it is all about insh'allah, whatever will be, will be.

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Re: Terrorism supporters who spread lies about Jews
Reply #254 - Nov 13^th, 2023 at 8:21pm

freediver wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:58pm:

After the holocaust, middle eastern countries kicked out their remaining Jews. A lot of them ended up in Israel. So those same countries went to war against Israel to try to finish them off. Very similar to what Muhammad did.

I'm saying you shouldn't be spreading lies about Jews in support of Islamic terrorists. The fact that you think asking Australian cops is even relevant just demonstrates that you do not even care whether it is true.

Jews in Palestine did a lot to expel Arabs from the proposed boundaries of the soon-to-be state of Israel.

Stories about the way Jewish-Israeli cops police Arab communities abound in Israel and are generally accepted by Jewish Israelis.

Totally believable when you hear what Australian cops will say in private about dealing with crime among certain ethnicities.

Also what is reported about cops in the US when dealing with certain internal ethnic issues.

Cops generally aren't martyrs for an ethnic cause they don't belong to.

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