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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 46726 Gender:	Re: Reply #255 - Nov 13^th, 2023 at 9:09pm Quote: Totally believable when you hear what Australian cops will say in private about dealing with crime among certain ethnicities. Certain ethnicities. That's the key - certain.
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Reply #256 - Nov 14^th, 2023 at 6:48am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 8:21pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:58pm:

After the holocaust, middle eastern countries kicked out their remaining Jews. A lot of them ended up in Israel. So those same countries went to war against Israel to try to finish them off. Very similar to what Muhammad did.

I'm saying you shouldn't be spreading lies about Jews in support of Islamic terrorists. The fact that you think asking Australian cops is even relevant just demonstrates that you do not even care whether it is true.

Jews in Palestine did a lot to expel Arabs from the proposed boundaries of the soon-to-be state of Israel.

Stories about the way Jewish-Israeli cops police Arab communities abound in Israel and are generally accepted by Jewish Israelis.

Totally believable when you hear what Australian cops will say in private about dealing with crime among certain ethnicities.

Also what is reported about cops in the US when dealing with certain internal ethnic issues.

Cops generally aren't martyrs for an ethnic cause they don't belong to.

Are you saying that you justify spreading lies about Jews in support of Islamic terrorists by claiming your lies are not implausible?

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Reply #257 - Nov 14^th, 2023 at 6:57am

Frank wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:34pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 3:59pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 2:19pm:

Not a Western conspiracy, but certainly after WW2, Palestine was a convenient dumping ground for Europe's Jews- even better that they wanted to go there anyway. Anti-Jewish sentiment didn't die in Europe after the war.

Indeed -
the Europeans blamed the Jews instead of Hitler for the war.

Jewish banks financed the arms buildup in Germany in the 1930s.
When Hitler couldn't pay them back he went to war.

You are out of your mind.
Stay.

Then who financed the arms buildup in Germany in the 1930s?

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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12614 Gender:	Re: Terrorism supporters who spread lies about Jews Reply #258 - Nov 14^th, 2023 at 7:00am freediver wrote on Nov 14^th, 2023 at 6:48am: Are you saying that you justify spreading lies about Jews in support of Islamic terrorists by claiming your lies are not implausible? What are the lies?
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Reply #259 - Nov 14^th, 2023 at 7:14am

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 14^th, 2023 at 7:00am:

freediver wrote on Nov 14^th, 2023 at 6:48am:

Are you saying that you justify spreading lies about Jews in support of Islamic terrorists by claiming your lies are not implausible?

What are the lies?

You call them "stories". Interesting effort at turd polishing. You know they are lies, but still you cling to them.

freediver wrote on Nov 14^th, 2023 at 6:48am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 8:21pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:58pm:

After the holocaust, middle eastern countries kicked out their remaining Jews. A lot of them ended up in Israel. So those same countries went to war against Israel to try to finish them off. Very similar to what Muhammad did.

I'm saying you shouldn't be spreading lies about Jews in support of Islamic terrorists. The fact that you think asking Australian cops is even relevant just demonstrates that you do not even care whether it is true.

Jews in Palestine did a lot to expel Arabs from the proposed boundaries of the soon-to-be state of Israel.

Stories about the way Jewish-Israeli cops police Arab communities abound in Israel and are generally accepted by Jewish Israelis.

Totally believable when you hear what Australian cops will say in private about dealing with crime among certain ethnicities.

Also what is reported about cops in the US when dealing with certain internal ethnic issues.

Cops generally aren't martyrs for an ethnic cause they don't belong to.

Are you saying that you justify spreading lies about Jews in support of Islamic terrorists by claiming your lies are not implausible?

Can you explain your logic here? Are you trying to equate "believable" with "true," or with "it's OK to spread lies about Jews in support of Islamic terrorists, because people might believe them"?

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Re: Terrorism supporters who spread lies about Jews
Reply #260 - Nov 14^th, 2023 at 7:15am

Frank wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 8:06pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:44pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 3:54pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 2:19pm:

Frank wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 2:11pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 1:58pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 1:43pm:

This x 100000

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The original Palestinian complaint against European Jews in Palestine during the 20s and 30s was ethnic, not religious.

Arabs acknowledged a distinction between Semitic Jews whose ancestors had never left Palestine (and did not have complaints against them) and those mass-migrating non-Semitic European Jews.

There was also a difference in cultural lifestyle.

European Jews were largely urbanised, while Arab Palestinians and Semitic Jews in Palestine were largely rural people.

The Palestinian cause began like so many, if not all, ethnic conflicts arise: after a perceived territorial usurpation of a migrating ethnic group displacing an existing ethnic group.

Like a Great Replacement, eh?
A conspiracy in the West, 'struth in Israel.

Not a Western conspiracy, but certainly after WW2, Palestine was a convenient dumping ground for Europe's Jews- even better that they wanted to go there anyway. Anti-Jewish sentiment didn't die in Europe after the war.

So not a dumping ground then. No Jew was 'dumped' in Israel after WWII.
There are more Jews in the US than in Israel. More Jews speak English than Hebrew.

Given nearly all Jews in Israel speak English and Hebrew, then add in diaspora Jews...

A dumping ground in the sense that Jewish displaced persons after WW2 needed to be out of Europe. Stalin had plans for those in Eastern Europe after the war. Britain and the US did not want to absorb hundreds of thousands of Jewish refugees - notwithstanding that Britain was in no state to take on a refugee wave at the time.

Maybe the British could have asked Australia to take in a tsunami of displaced Jews - i.e. a land with no people settling a people with no land... How would Australia of the 1940s have reacted to that, I wonder.

In the aftermath of World War II Australia abandoned its previous Anglo-centric immigration policy and permitted immigration of large numbers of people from continental Europe. Large numbers of European Jews, survivors of the Holocaust, arrived in the country from displaced persons camps.

Most Jews in Australia today are from that cohort and from Jews escaping the Soviet Union in the following decades.

Jews, being vigorous, unlike slovenly, lethargic insh'allah Muslims, add vim and vigour.
Muslims come to life and get energised only about killing Jews. Otherwise it is all about insh'allah, whatever will be, will be.

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Re: "believable" stories
Reply #261 - Nov 14^th, 2023 at 7:39am

freediver wrote on Nov 14^th, 2023 at 7:14am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 14^th, 2023 at 7:00am:

freediver wrote on Nov 14^th, 2023 at 6:48am:

Are you saying that you justify spreading lies about Jews in support of Islamic terrorists by claiming your lies are not implausible?

What are the lies?

You call them "stories". Interesting effort at turd polishing. You know they are lies, but still you cling to them.

freediver wrote on Nov 14^th, 2023 at 6:48am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 8:21pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:58pm:

After the holocaust, middle eastern countries kicked out their remaining Jews. A lot of them ended up in Israel. So those same countries went to war against Israel to try to finish them off. Very similar to what Muhammad did.

I'm saying you shouldn't be spreading lies about Jews in support of Islamic terrorists. The fact that you think asking Australian cops is even relevant just demonstrates that you do not even care whether it is true.

Jews in Palestine did a lot to expel Arabs from the proposed boundaries of the soon-to-be state of Israel.

Stories about the way Jewish-Israeli cops police Arab communities abound in Israel and are generally accepted by Jewish Israelis.

Totally believable when you hear what Australian cops will say in private about dealing with crime among certain ethnicities.

Also what is reported about cops in the US when dealing with certain internal ethnic issues.

Cops generally aren't martyrs for an ethnic cause they don't belong to.

Are you saying that you justify spreading lies about Jews in support of Islamic terrorists by claiming your lies are not implausible?

Can you explain your logic here? Are you trying to equate "believable" with "true," or with "it's OK to spread lies about Jews in support of Islamic terrorists, because people might believe them"?

That would be you branding them lies.

The stories about Jewish-Israeli police not interceding over Arab-on-Arab crime are entirely in keeping with every police force anywhere where there is an ethnic/subcultural component that individual police officers will not risk their lives for.

Then there is the fact that Jewish-Israelis have a general contempt for Arab-Israelis - something Jewish-Israelis easily admit to.

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Unbelievable stories or fractured fairytales ? Reply #262 - Nov 14^th, 2023 at 7:43am You decide.
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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12614 Gender:	Re: Terrorism supporters who spread lies about Jews Reply #263 - Nov 14^th, 2023 at 8:08am A parallel to this in Australia was the hands-off approach state police adopted towards Lebanese-on-Lebanese crime.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74740 Gender:	Re: Terrorism supporters who spread lies about Jews Reply #264 - Nov 14^th, 2023 at 8:56am FD spends all day on here spreading lies. He likes to call everyone else a liar but when asked what the lie is, he can never tell you what it was.
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Re: "believable" stories
Reply #265 - Nov 14^th, 2023 at 5:46pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 14^th, 2023 at 7:39am:

freediver wrote on Nov 14^th, 2023 at 7:14am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 14^th, 2023 at 7:00am:

freediver wrote on Nov 14^th, 2023 at 6:48am:

Are you saying that you justify spreading lies about Jews in support of Islamic terrorists by claiming your lies are not implausible?

What are the lies?

You call them "stories". Interesting effort at turd polishing. You know they are lies, but still you cling to them.

freediver wrote on Nov 14^th, 2023 at 6:48am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 8:21pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:58pm:

After the holocaust, middle eastern countries kicked out their remaining Jews. A lot of them ended up in Israel. So those same countries went to war against Israel to try to finish them off. Very similar to what Muhammad did.

I'm saying you shouldn't be spreading lies about Jews in support of Islamic terrorists. The fact that you think asking Australian cops is even relevant just demonstrates that you do not even care whether it is true.

Jews in Palestine did a lot to expel Arabs from the proposed boundaries of the soon-to-be state of Israel.

Stories about the way Jewish-Israeli cops police Arab communities abound in Israel and are generally accepted by Jewish Israelis.

Totally believable when you hear what Australian cops will say in private about dealing with crime among certain ethnicities.

Also what is reported about cops in the US when dealing with certain internal ethnic issues.

Cops generally aren't martyrs for an ethnic cause they don't belong to.

Are you saying that you justify spreading lies about Jews in support of Islamic terrorists by claiming your lies are not implausible?

Can you explain your logic here? Are you trying to equate "believable" with "true," or with "it's OK to spread lies about Jews in support of Islamic terrorists, because people might believe them"?

That would be you branding them lies.

The stories about Jewish-Israeli police not interceding over Arab-on-Arab crime are entirely in keeping with every police force anywhere where there is an ethnic/subcultural component that individual police officers will not risk their lives for.

Then there is the fact that Jewish-Israelis have a general contempt for Arab-Israelis - something Jewish-Israelis easily admit to.

In other words, you have no evidence at all to prove they are more than "stories"? You are not better than the ignorant, illiterate Muslims of the middle east and north africa who spread absurd stories about Jews and accept equally feeble justifications for them.

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Re: "believable" stories
Reply #266 - Nov 14^th, 2023 at 6:24pm

freediver wrote on Nov 14^th, 2023 at 5:46pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 14^th, 2023 at 7:39am:

freediver wrote on Nov 14^th, 2023 at 7:14am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 14^th, 2023 at 7:00am:

freediver wrote on Nov 14^th, 2023 at 6:48am:

Are you saying that you justify spreading lies about Jews in support of Islamic terrorists by claiming your lies are not implausible?

What are the lies?

You call them "stories". Interesting effort at turd polishing. You know they are lies, but still you cling to them.

freediver wrote on Nov 14^th, 2023 at 6:48am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 8:21pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:58pm:

After the holocaust, middle eastern countries kicked out their remaining Jews. A lot of them ended up in Israel. So those same countries went to war against Israel to try to finish them off. Very similar to what Muhammad did.

I'm saying you shouldn't be spreading lies about Jews in support of Islamic terrorists. The fact that you think asking Australian cops is even relevant just demonstrates that you do not even care whether it is true.

Jews in Palestine did a lot to expel Arabs from the proposed boundaries of the soon-to-be state of Israel.

Stories about the way Jewish-Israeli cops police Arab communities abound in Israel and are generally accepted by Jewish Israelis.

Totally believable when you hear what Australian cops will say in private about dealing with crime among certain ethnicities.

Also what is reported about cops in the US when dealing with certain internal ethnic issues.

Cops generally aren't martyrs for an ethnic cause they don't belong to.

Are you saying that you justify spreading lies about Jews in support of Islamic terrorists by claiming your lies are not implausible?

Can you explain your logic here? Are you trying to equate "believable" with "true," or with "it's OK to spread lies about Jews in support of Islamic terrorists, because people might believe them"?

That would be you branding them lies.

The stories about Jewish-Israeli police not interceding over Arab-on-Arab crime are entirely in keeping with every police force anywhere where there is an ethnic/subcultural component that individual police officers will not risk their lives for.

Then there is the fact that Jewish-Israelis have a general contempt for Arab-Israelis - something Jewish-Israelis easily admit to.

In other words, you have no evidence at all to prove they are more than "stories"? You are not better than the ignorant, illiterate Muslims of the middle east and north africa who spread absurd stories about Jews and accept equally feeble justifications for them.

You've never spoken to a Jewish-Israeli or a cop in your life, then.

Internal issues within ethnic communities or subcultures, where there is animosity or an ethnic divide between crims and law enforcers, are extremely dangerous with witnesses unlikely to come forward to assist police for fear of reprisals - particularly where it is ethnically gang-related, and more particularly where gang members are armed.

The same happened in Australia with Lebanese-on-Lebanese crime.

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Reply #267 - Nov 14^th, 2023 at 7:40pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 14^th, 2023 at 6:24pm: