John Smith wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 2:08pm:


John Smith wrote on Oct 9^th, 2023 at 6:55pm:

I take no sides in this.  They're all crazy.

I'm just posting some facts:

Israeli forces and settlers have killed at least 3,752 Palestinian civilians since 2008 throughout the occupied West Bank, including East Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip, according to the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs.

John Smith wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 4:26pm:


Probably.

But it has nothing to do with me.

It comes from The United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs.

What happened to the hundreds of intimidating cops who thronged the streets of Sydney during Covid? Why couldn't the same cops disperse the Hamas crowd at the Opera House?


And why isn't the Human Rights Commission charging Palestinian protesters for breaking Section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act, like they did with Bill Leak in 2016?

Muslim violence has intimidated everyone, INCLUDING politicians and the police.

https://twitter.com/FredPawle/status/1711980699849535621


What will they do when the unauthorised Muslim shite-throwing goes ahead on Sunday?

freediver wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 4:55pm:



FD, why do you insist on fantacising about what members post?

freediver wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 4:34pm:


you're not showing me anything, all you are doing is stanmping yuour feet and pouting whilst crying 'it's a lie', it's a lie'. Even my kids moved past that point when mounting an argument by the time they were 5.

if you think there is a lie there it's up to you show how it's a lie. Stamping your feet and pouting whilst calling me a liar just doesn't cut it in the adult world. Are you a toddler?

freediver wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 5:04pm:


No, you showed my my quote. There is no lie there. Try again ya dumbarse

your white flag is accepted FD.

freediver wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 5:37pm:


Five Foot Frodo Fruitloop has 1 drug fried brain cell left. That’s why he’s not yet understood the fact that you keep pwning his dumb arse every time you interact with him.

Now for what the Palestinian would do if they had the chance.
Kill teenagers at a music festival, behead babies.

What would the Palestinians do to the Jews in Israel if the power imbalance were reversed? Well, they have told us what they would do. For some reason, Israel’s critics just don’t want to believe the worst about a group like Hamas, even when it declares the worst of itself.

https://www.samharris.org/podcasts/making-sense-episodes/why-dont-i-criticize-is...

freediver wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 5:03pm:


I am not in the business of tugging my forelock to any particular religious group.

The State of Israel is geographically located in an insane position creating eternal (and I mean to infinity) hostility.

Just like it was artificially created by the West in the late 40's, it can be moved.  Anyone interested in avoiding that eternal conflict would support the notion.

And while it is all very noble and expected of Biden, and the rest of the Western Leaders, I really cannot for the life of me understand why we had to retain any interest in the State of Israel after it was created any more than we should have been interested in Palestine.  But, we stuck our nose in, and and we have handed the State of Israel literally trillions of dollars in support (financial and in military hardware) and we have done (in comparison) sweet f all for the Palestinian.

Why is that so?

Why have we picked a side, especially given it seems to be the side creating the fing problem?

We support Ukraine on the basis of a Rules Based Order and support resistance to blatant invasion by Russia, yet the West just white washes, turns a deliberate blind eye to slow incremental incursions and land grabs when the State of Israel does it, and has been doing it for decades on a daily basis.

Cry for me Argentina about the terrible deaths of Israeli citizens slaughtered at the hands of Palestinians but cry the same for the terrible deaths of Palestinian citizens slaughtered at the hands of Israelis.

Do you reckon the rockets of either side give a f about into whose lounge room they explode, military barracks or that of Mum Dad and the kids watching re-runs of Little House on the Prairie and Bonanza dubbed in Arabic and Yiddish?

Territorial borders should be respected and the land grabbing by State of Israel condemned, even with military support like Ukraine gets if necessary.

Just move the State of Israel.  Monk is keen to have it in Tasmania, and why not?

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 4:25pm:


I take no sides in this.  They're all crazy.


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Maybe, but the State of Israel is now made up almost entirely by imported emigrant Jews from the West. 

Your comparison with the Aussie black fella (none imported or emigrant) is way out of whack.

Oh look, Effendi only wants to cherry pick the agenda.  He wants to ignore all the far more relevant, important and on point issues I raised in my post.  But, I'll play:

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Ya see, Dear Readers...there he goes....the smears.  This time he comes out of his closet and actually includes the Nazi word.  Cute, isn't he?  He imputes a 'final solution' nuance to my argument, he lies and verbals me. 

He says I 'insist' on letting some mob slaughter some other mob.

I will give a life long supply of Uncanny's paper bags full of boiled lollies if any one of you Dear Readers can find me anywhere asserting that I insist on anyone being slaughtered.  How about you Effendi, care to quote where I posted that 'insistance?'

Aussie wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 6:38pm:

Idiotic. So you.

Hamas bloody liar:



Hamas official: 'We have not killed any civilians'

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So they're asylum seekers. 

Stop the boats

John Smith wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 7:34pm:


So in response to Hamas' latest round of terrorist attacks, you thought it would be a good idea to just invent a conspiracy theory about Jews killing Palestinians daily?

Bobby. wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 7:34pm:


This reminds me of one of our Muslims here, as well as the odd infamous cleric busted in the media, saying that they oppose killing innocent people, but also that no non-Muslims are innocent.

Aussie wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 6:15pm:


FD is exposing the bullshitters in this thread. 

I have looked and i can't see anything that backs up your bullshit where we have handed trillions in financial support and military harware.

We don't give foreign aid to Israel we give over $30 million a year to Palestinians.
https://www.dfat.gov.au/development/where-we-deliver-australias-development-prog...

I can't think of any military hardware we give Israel can you enlighten us on this or are you just repeating bullshit from the Greens?

I know we buy a lot of military equipment from Israel the precision bombs our air force uses are from Israel. The targeting and optics to record this are all from Israel. The USA gets this from Israel.The bang parts might be made in the US all the electronic controls are Israeli technology

80% of our naval weapons systems come from Israel here is one example
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhoon_Weapon_Station

We have over a billion dollars a year in trade with Israel.

The jews will always be a target for muslims it doesn't matter where they are. If people follow your stupidity then Tasmania will be a target it has nothing to do with Israel you obviously don't understand Islamic ideology.

Stick to driving cabs you lose whatever credibility you have when you tell lies.

“Mommy I don’t wanna die.
I am only 7 years old.
I’m too little to die.”

— Lia (7), Kibbutz Be'eri, Israel

John Smith wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 8:18pm:


So why can't you present any evidence of daily killings other than "ask Mossad"? Do you think some might consider it offensive to make up this anti Jewish propaganda and then invoke Mossad to justify your lies?

Aussie wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 9:11pm:


Oh look. Aussie the terrorist supporter making up lies about Jews in celebration of the slaughter of innocent people and another effort to trot out his final solution. It would be easier to believe Aussie was not a rabid Jew hater if the facts had not already been pointed out to him dozens of times.

Why do you keep telling these lies Aussie?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_the_Muslim_world#:~:text=The%20
Jewish%20exodus%20from%20the,80%20following%20the%20Iranian%20Revolution.

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It captures your odious views and habitual lies about Jews quite well.

freediver wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 9:06pm:


Fd you're confusing yourself in your stupidity. Mossad would never admit to killing any innocent civilians

Bobby. wrote on Oct 11^th, 2023 at 9:34pm:


Fd's not the enemy Goober, he's just the fool

Which terrorists Goober??

The Palestinian ones or the Israeli ones?

freediver wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 8:26am:


I don't know. I doubt it, killing Palestinians just seems like second nature to them, not some grand conspiracy.

but you'd have to ask Mossad to make sure, although I doubt they'd ever admit it.

freediver wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 1:31pm:


I never claimed it happened. i told you to ask mossad. if you want to pretend 'ask Mossad' means 'there is a grand conspiracy to murder Palestinians', then that is your problem, not mine. I can't help it if you have the comprehension skills of a gnat

freediver wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 1:54pm:


I see nothing there about any grand conspiracy, do you?

freediver wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 2:12pm:


So you want me to show evidence other than the evidence I've already cited?.

Good one fd, 

John Smith wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 2:18pm:


Yes. Some evidence that actually supports you claim.

Why do you invent and disseminate anti-Jewish propaganda for terrorist organisations like Hamas every time they start slaughtering innocent people?

freediver wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 2:53pm:


I told you where the evidence was. It's not my fault you don't understand what you read

John Smith wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 3:26pm:


Are you refering to the Jewish conspiracy again?

freediver wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 4:04pm:


No, I'm referring to the UN's figures. The conspiracy was just something you made up so that you could keep pretending

John,
either you're with us or you're with the terrorists  -

there's no in between.

John Smith wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 7:16pm:



You are a cultural Marxist -

do you have a Palestinian flag at your place?

John Smith wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 7:22pm:

On 29 November 1947 the UN General Assembly voted on the partition plan, adopted by 33 votes to 13 with 10 abstentions. The Jewish side accepted the UN plan for the establishment of two states. The Arabs rejected it and launched a war of annihilation against the Jewish state..


History.

freediver wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 8:26am:


Aussie is not the only one telling this lie. Apparently it is the Jews' own fault that Israel got flooded with Jewish refugees who were forced to flee nearby Muslim countries, and then had to defend itself against several attempts by those same countries to wipe them out. Straight after the holocaust. And out of this mess comes not hatred, but a modern, liberal democracy where Muslims have more rights than anywhere else in the middle east. And still the Muslims are compelled to destroy it.

It's always the Jews' fault.

Karnal wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 11:14pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 12^th, 2023 at 7:22pm:

...and yet Mr Gronk looks and looks. But he still can't understand them.

Poor Jasin, so desperate for attention 

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 2:35pm:


And I'm not the one that slags this Forum off from a PA Sewer then runs back here like an attention whore with Gronk comments because only crickets chirping at the Sewer only agree with him. 

freediver wrote on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 5:16pm:



6400 non combatant deaths at the hands of Israelis in the last 17 years. That's more than 1 a day. You can pretend all you like.

John Smith wrote on Oct 13^th, 2023 at 10:25pm:


This UN?

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The same UN ?

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The same UN who says a guy with a dick can be a lesbian?


I think the UN has a credibility problem

freediver wrote on Oct 16^th, 2023 at 12:29pm:


did you want diary entries FD?

Wow, John must really hate those Jews.

John Smith wrote on Oct 16^th, 2023 at 1:43pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 17^th, 2023 at 10:53am:


thats why I avoid you, I'll never find one there

They are as bad as each other.

As expected and my first reaction

1) The despicable Hamas bombings required a strong response.

2) The response of indiscriminately bombing innocent Palestinian men women and Children was equally as despicable.

Most likely the Hamas operatives set off their rockets and immediately got out of the west bank, All that Israel had to target was innocent civilians.

Setanta wrote on Oct 17^th, 2023 at 7:29pm:


That's why you're a loser, always coming second