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Belgarion Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5492 Gender:	Re: We should stop giving foreign aid to Palestine Reply #165 - Jan 22^nd, 2025 at 8:58pm Funny how these terrorists are always running out of food and medicine but never out of weapons and ammunition.
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Daves2017 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1417 Gender:	Re: We should stop giving foreign aid to Palestine Reply #166 - Jan 22^nd, 2025 at 9:27pm I find it unfunny how they are surrounded by some of the world’s richest countries but fellow Arabs even refuse to help them in anyway? But they happily beg/seek money from western nations who they despise and wish to destroy!
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Re: We should stop giving foreign aid to Palestine
Reply #167 - Jan 23^rd, 2025 at 7:37am

Daves2017 wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2025 at 9:27pm:

... fellow Arabs even refuse to help them in anyway?

This question was covered in my first - and only - response

If you can READ, you'd realise this it has been answered

Gaza has been annexed by Israel and all border entry points have been closed by Israel - and manned by the IDF

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...more than 320 humanitarian personnel (have been) killed since 7 October 2023.
Many were killed in the line of duty while providing humanitarian assistance.
Most were staff members of the UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA)

https://www.ochaopt.org/content/un-relief-chief-decries-bullets-and-bombs-agains...

The UN are blocked from giving aid - and murdered for non-compliance

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An Israeli attack that killed seven humanitarian aid workers in Gaza targeted them "systematically, car by car," World Central Kitchen (WCK) founder José Andrés says.

Australian aid worker Lalzawmi "Zomi" Frankcom, Palestinian Saifeddin Issam Ayad Abutaha, Damian Sobol from Poland, US-Canadian national Jacob Flickinger and John Chapman, James Henderson and James Kirby from the UK were killed when an Israeli air strike hit their convoy on Monday night, local time.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04-04/charity-founder-says-israel-targeted-aid-...

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Re: We should stop giving foreign aid to Palestine
Reply #168 - Jan 23^rd, 2025 at 8:01am

buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2025 at 7:37am:

Daves2017 wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2025 at 9:27pm:

... fellow Arabs even refuse to help them in anyway?

This question was covered in my first - and only - response

If you can READ, you'd realise this it has been answered

Gaza has been annexed by Israel and all border entry points have been closed by Israel - and manned by the IDF

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...more than 320 humanitarian personnel (have been) killed since 7 October 2023.
Many were killed in the line of duty while providing humanitarian assistance.
Most were staff members of the UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA)

https://www.ochaopt.org/content/un-relief-chief-decries-bullets-and-bombs-agains...

The UN are blocked from giving aid - and murdered for non-compliance

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An Israeli attack that killed seven humanitarian aid workers in Gaza targeted them "systematically, car by car," World Central Kitchen (WCK) founder José Andrés says.

Australian aid worker Lalzawmi "Zomi" Frankcom, Palestinian Saifeddin Issam Ayad Abutaha, Damian Sobol from Poland, US-Canadian national Jacob Flickinger and John Chapman, James Henderson and James Kirby from the UK were killed when an Israeli air strike hit their convoy on Monday night, local time.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04-04/charity-founder-says-israel-targeted-aid-...

So where did Hamas get the money for miles of tunnels, rockets, weapons?

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Re: We should stop giving foreign aid to Palestine
Reply #169 - Jan 24^th, 2025 at 2:58pm

Frank wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2025 at 8:01am:

buzzanddidj wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2025 at 7:37am:

Daves2017 wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2025 at 9:27pm:

... fellow Arabs even refuse to help them in anyway?

This question was covered in my first - and only - response

If you can READ, you'd realise this it has been answered

Gaza has been annexed by Israel and all border entry points have been closed by Israel - and manned by the IDF

Quote:

...more than 320 humanitarian personnel (have been) killed since 7 October 2023.
Many were killed in the line of duty while providing humanitarian assistance.
Most were staff members of the UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA)

https://www.ochaopt.org/content/un-relief-chief-decries-bullets-and-bombs-agains...

The UN are blocked from giving aid - and murdered for non-compliance

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An Israeli attack that killed seven humanitarian aid workers in Gaza targeted them "systematically, car by car," World Central Kitchen (WCK) founder José Andrés says.

Australian aid worker Lalzawmi "Zomi" Frankcom, Palestinian Saifeddin Issam Ayad Abutaha, Damian Sobol from Poland, US-Canadian national Jacob Flickinger and John Chapman, James Henderson and James Kirby from the UK were killed when an Israeli air strike hit their convoy on Monday night, local time.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04-04/charity-founder-says-israel-targeted-aid-...

So where did Hamas get the money for miles of tunnels, rockets, weapons?

My obvious question is if Israel stops all movement out of Gaza how exactly did Albo manage to bring so many here and planning to bring millions more?

When time permits I will search out quotes of other Arab leaders explaining why they Will not help the Palestinian people.

Oh brother Arab, why do you torture them so?

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Re: We should stop giving foreign aid to Palestine
Reply #170 - Jan 26^th, 2025 at 2:41pm

Palestinian aid money at work:

The speed with which civilians found their uniforms, famine bounced back, and supplies became available for a military parade, weapons, and transportation is nothing short of a miracle. The miracle of the smoke and mirrors show that is Gaza.

https://x.com/Claire_V0ltaire/status/1883188592228565463

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49574 At my desk.	Re: We should stop giving foreign aid to Palestine Reply #171 - Jan 31^st, 2025 at 3:27pm We should do something similar to what we did with South Africa and get all countries to hold foreign aid until they hold free and fair elections. And if they re-elect Hamas, we cut the funding off entirely. No point funding the next war.
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Re: We should stop giving foreign aid to Palestine
Reply #172 - Jan 31^st, 2025 at 3:34pm

freediver wrote on Jan 31^st, 2025 at 3:27pm:

We should do something similar to what we did with South Africa and get all countries to hold foreign aid until they hold free and fair elections. And if they re-elect Hamas, we cut the funding off entirely. No point funding the next war.

They have already done some polling.
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According to the poll, only seven percent of Gazans blamed Hamas for their suffering. Seventy-one percent of all Palestinians supported Hamas’s decision to attack Israel on October 7 — up 14 points among Gazans and down 11 points among West Bank Palestinians compared to three months ago. Fifty-nine percent of all Palestinians thought Hamas should rule Gaza, and 70 percent were satisfied with the role Hamas has played during the war.
https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2024/03/22/poll-hamas-remains-popular-among-palestinians/

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 50111 Gender:	Re: We should stop giving foreign aid to Palestine Reply #173 - Jan 31^st, 2025 at 3:37pm The Left support Terrorism. Simple as that.
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Re: We should stop giving foreign aid to Palestine
Reply #174 - Jan 31^st, 2025 at 3:44pm

Leroy wrote on Jan 31^st, 2025 at 3:34pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 31^st, 2025 at 3:27pm:

We should do something similar to what we did with South Africa and get all countries to hold foreign aid until they hold free and fair elections. And if they re-elect Hamas, we cut the funding off entirely. No point funding the next war.

They have already done some polling.
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According to the poll, only seven percent of Gazans blamed Hamas for their suffering. Seventy-one percent of all Palestinians supported Hamas’s decision to attack Israel on October 7 — up 14 points among Gazans and down 11 points among West Bank Palestinians compared to three months ago. Fifty-nine percent of all Palestinians thought Hamas should rule Gaza, and 70 percent were satisfied with the role Hamas has played during the war.
https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2024/03/22/poll-hamas-remains-popular-among-palestinians/

The point of free and fair elections is that competing politicians would start openly criticising Hamas. Opinion polls are fairly meaningless under a dictatorship. Give the people a choice between having Hamas and having foreign aid.

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Re: We should stop giving foreign aid to Palestine
Reply #175 - Jan 31^st, 2025 at 3:49pm

freediver wrote on Jan 31^st, 2025 at 3:27pm:

We should do something similar to what we did with South Africa and get all countries to hold foreign aid until they hold free and fair elections. And if they re-elect Hamas, we cut the funding off entirely. No point funding the next war.

ISLAMOPHOBIA! tsk, tsk Roll Eyes

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Re: We should stop giving foreign aid to Palestine
Reply #176 - Jan 31^st, 2025 at 3:53pm

freediver wrote on Jan 31^st, 2025 at 3:44pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 31^st, 2025 at 3:34pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 31^st, 2025 at 3:27pm:

We should do something similar to what we did with South Africa and get all countries to hold foreign aid until they hold free and fair elections. And if they re-elect Hamas, we cut the funding off entirely. No point funding the next war.

They have already done some polling.
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According to the poll, only seven percent of Gazans blamed Hamas for their suffering. Seventy-one percent of all Palestinians supported Hamas’s decision to attack Israel on October 7 — up 14 points among Gazans and down 11 points among West Bank Palestinians compared to three months ago. Fifty-nine percent of all Palestinians thought Hamas should rule Gaza, and 70 percent were satisfied with the role Hamas has played during the war.
https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2024/03/22/poll-hamas-remains-popular-among-palestinians/

The point of free and fair elections is that competing politicians would start openly criticising Hamas. Opinion polls are fairly meaningless under a dictatorship. Give the people a choice between having Hamas and having foreign aid.

You do realize Hamas is a terrorist organization don't you.
Previous opposition:

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A Hamas source said Madhoun, who had topped the group's wanted list of Abbas loyalists and had spearheaded Fatah's fight against Hamas, was shot six times in the chest.

Witnesses said Hamas supporters paraded his body through the streets of Nusseirat refugee camp.

At least 30 people were killed as Hamas routed Fatah in the Gaza Strip capturing most major security compounds from Abbas's forces throughout the coastal territory. After the battles, Hamas men hunted down their foes, blowing up their houses and taking over buildings used by Fatah-run civilian organisations, witnesses said.

"That's him, kill him," shouted a masked gunman after identifying a member of Fatah's al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades.
https://www.reuters.com/article/economy/hamas-gunmen-hunt-down-fatah-rivals-in-gaza-strip-idUSL14749263/

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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 50111 Gender:	Re: We should stop giving foreign aid to Palestine Reply #177 - Jan 31^st, 2025 at 4:01pm Those terrorist women and children wouldn't hesitate to murder a Israeli.
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Re: We should stop giving foreign aid to Palestine
Reply #178 - Jan 31^st, 2025 at 4:03pm

Leroy wrote on Jan 31^st, 2025 at 3:53pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 31^st, 2025 at 3:44pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 31^st, 2025 at 3:34pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 31^st, 2025 at 3:27pm:

We should do something similar to what we did with South Africa and get all countries to hold foreign aid until they hold free and fair elections. And if they re-elect Hamas, we cut the funding off entirely. No point funding the next war.

They have already done some polling.
Quote:

According to the poll, only seven percent of Gazans blamed Hamas for their suffering. Seventy-one percent of all Palestinians supported Hamas’s decision to attack Israel on October 7 — up 14 points among Gazans and down 11 points among West Bank Palestinians compared to three months ago. Fifty-nine percent of all Palestinians thought Hamas should rule Gaza, and 70 percent were satisfied with the role Hamas has played during the war.
https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2024/03/22/poll-hamas-remains-popular-among-palestinians/

The point of free and fair elections is that competing politicians would start openly criticising Hamas. Opinion polls are fairly meaningless under a dictatorship. Give the people a choice between having Hamas and having foreign aid.

You do realize Hamas is a terrorist organization don't you.
Previous opposition:

Quote:

A Hamas source said Madhoun, who had topped the group's wanted list of Abbas loyalists and had spearheaded Fatah's fight against Hamas, was shot six times in the chest.

Witnesses said Hamas supporters paraded his body through the streets of Nusseirat refugee camp.

At least 30 people were killed as Hamas routed Fatah in the Gaza Strip capturing most major security compounds from Abbas's forces throughout the coastal territory. After the battles, Hamas men hunted down their foes, blowing up their houses and taking over buildings used by Fatah-run civilian organisations, witnesses said.

"That's him, kill him," shouted a masked gunman after identifying a member of Fatah's al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades.
https://www.reuters.com/article/economy/hamas-gunmen-hunt-down-fatah-rivals-in-gaza-strip-idUSL14749263/

And?

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Re: We should stop giving foreign aid to Palestine
Reply #179 - Jan 31^st, 2025 at 4:11pm

freediver wrote on Jan 31^st, 2025 at 4:03pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 31^st, 2025 at 3:53pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 31^st, 2025 at 3:44pm:

Leroy wrote on Jan 31^st, 2025 at 3:34pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 31^st, 2025 at 3:27pm:

We should do something similar to what we did with South Africa and get all countries to hold foreign aid until they hold free and fair elections. And if they re-elect Hamas, we cut the funding off entirely. No point funding the next war.

They have already done some polling.
Quote:

According to the poll, only seven percent of Gazans blamed Hamas for their suffering. Seventy-one percent of all Palestinians supported Hamas’s decision to attack Israel on October 7 — up 14 points among Gazans and down 11 points among West Bank Palestinians compared to three months ago. Fifty-nine percent of all Palestinians thought Hamas should rule Gaza, and 70 percent were satisfied with the role Hamas has played during the war.
https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2024/03/22/poll-hamas-remains-popular-among-palestinians/

The point of free and fair elections is that competing politicians would start openly criticising Hamas. Opinion polls are fairly meaningless under a dictatorship. Give the people a choice between having Hamas and having foreign aid.

You do realize Hamas is a terrorist organization don't you.
Previous opposition:

Quote:

A Hamas source said Madhoun, who had topped the group's wanted list of Abbas loyalists and had spearheaded Fatah's fight against Hamas, was shot six times in the chest.

Witnesses said Hamas supporters paraded his body through the streets of Nusseirat refugee camp.

At least 30 people were killed as Hamas routed Fatah in the Gaza Strip capturing most major security compounds from Abbas's forces throughout the coastal territory. After the battles, Hamas men hunted down their foes, blowing up their houses and taking over buildings used by Fatah-run civilian organisations, witnesses said.

"That's him, kill him," shouted a masked gunman after identifying a member of Fatah's al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades.
https://www.reuters.com/article/economy/hamas-gunmen-hunt-down-fatah-rivals-in-gaza-strip-idUSL14749263/

And?

All right I'll be frank

Who the bugger is silly enough to think you are going to have free and fair elections in Gaza.

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Question: Should we give foreign aid to Palestine
We should stop aid to Palestine 14 (58.3%) We should fund Islamic terrorists 2 (8.3%) We're broke no aid unless it's disaster relief 8 (33.3%) Total votes: 24 « Created by: Baronvonrort on: Oct 17^th, 2023 at 11:54pm »