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Oct 15th, 2023 at 4:15pm
 
In arguments?

I’m happy to listen to your views.

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Reply #1 - Oct 15th, 2023 at 4:20pm
 
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Reply #2 - Oct 15th, 2023 at 5:48pm
 
Gordon wrote on Oct 15th, 2023 at 4:20pm:
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How do you feel, Mr Daffhhihhh?

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Gordon wrote on Oct 15th, 2023 at 4:20pm:
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #4 - Oct 15th, 2023 at 6:44pm
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 15th, 2023 at 4:15pm:
In arguments?

I’m happy to listen to your views.



Man's first words "Sex now!"
Woman's final word "Ok."
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #5 - Oct 15th, 2023 at 7:20pm
 
Quick! Aussie - lock this thread after a male poster says something.  Wink Cheesy
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #6 - Oct 15th, 2023 at 8:58pm
 
This is interesting 👇

https://www.mariefranceasia.com/lifelove/decoding/relationship-always-last-word-...

Relationships: Why do women always have the last word?

If women obtain what they want from their husband or boyfriend, it is thanks to their intuition, in addition to their growing role in society. Today, seemingly, women control the couple’s dynamic.

Little by little over the years, mothers have asserted themselves, built a social life and, as a result, widened their influence within the family circle. Thus, they enforce their point of view and take the lead more frequently in decisions, whether small or big. “We are living an acceleration of the history concerning the man-woman relationship”, confirms sociologist Ronan Chastellier.

The weapon used here? Language.

Purchasing a house, choosing a car, holiday destination, or a place to live and so on are the many domains where women bloom and excel. This is a female-specific trait, according to Dr Braconnier, psychiatrist and psychoanalyst: “Women have an innate sense of reality. They are more attentive, more observant and they listen more. All these qualities enable them to reach their goal. But to achieve this, they use a very effective tool of persuasion – language.

While men are categorical, even peremptory – “when I say no, it’s no!” – women prefer to discuss and negotiate. They develop a thoughtful, concrete argument, without being dominant, making their partner think like them or, even better, make them believe that they both made the decision together” With all of these changes, what about men? Far from remaining unmoved in front of their wife’s evolution of behaviour, men have also changed, including those over 40 years of age.

Because if, previously, many identified themselves as virile and imperious, they are more and more inclined to let go and accept that their wife shares with them the home’s fate. Nevertheless, they still do not compromise on a point: “At no time, should the man feel dominated over or questioned for his virility”, specifies Alain Braconnier.

Neither a winner nor a loser:

According to Laurence Sola, psychotherapist, women know intuitively when it is the best moment to convince their partner. Unconsciously, they use their femininity and visible fragility to convert their partner: “When a couple gets along well, many decisions are taken in the intimacy of the bedroom, when they find themselves physically close and when nobody disturbs them. It is often in these privileged moments that women decide to approach the issues that mean a lot to them”.

These role changes in the relationship do not make winners or losers; rather, they generate a different balance in the relationship, currently to the advantage of women, following centuries of submission. Historically, it is well known that nothing is ever definitive. Who can say whether or not the growing influence of women will continue? In the future, will men try to take back control?” Laurence Sola doesn’t think so: “The metamorphosis of women is so important that a step backwards seems improbable.”

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Reply #7 - Oct 15th, 2023 at 10:38pm
 
When a male seeds the body of a female.
The female seeds the mind of a male.


Quote: 'me' Wink
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Reply #8 - Oct 15th, 2023 at 11:07pm
 


In all my years on this planet, I've never once
found that to be an accurate assessment of any
decent, binary male-female relationship.

Yes, of course it happens.   Sometimes.   But then
many men also demand the "last word" which can
all too often lead to female partner abuse—as many
men still see themselves as smarter and stronger
than women, in general.

That attitude of course is a throwback to generations
past when the family unit was governed and controlled
by the paternalistic mindset of the father, or another
dominant male in the setting.

And often that condescending paternalistic attitude
can or could trigger a woman to respond in (quite
appropriate) self-justification.   Or... that claimed
last word.

At any rate, it should never be a case of who gets the
final word in any debate;  it may need one partner
to reconsider their own position in light of the topic
at hand, rather than forcing their personal opinion,
uncompromisingly, down someone else's throat.

   Often, simple compromise is the best solution
   for a long and happy relationship.

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Reply #9 - Oct 15th, 2023 at 11:18pm
 
Ex girlfriend: "Do you think I'm fat?"
Me: "Yes."
...never heard from her again. Seems I had the last word there.  Undecided
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Reply #10 - Oct 17th, 2023 at 12:09am
 
That is not true. I always have the last word.

And it is.............

"Yes honey you are correct as always".
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Reply #11 - Oct 17th, 2023 at 9:21am
 
Last full sentence a man speaks “I will.”
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Reply #12 - Oct 17th, 2023 at 10:40am
 
Super Nova wrote on Oct 17th, 2023 at 12:09am:
That is not true. I always have the last word.

And it is.............

"Yes honey you are correct as always".


That’s actually a very passive aggressive comment IMO. My husband tried that type of sentence a few times on me. Last time he tried that stunt I was washing the dishes. I stopped, dried my hands with the kitchen hand towel and looked at him (at first quite fiercely then with some degree of compassion because he had no idea about what was coming next). I won’t go into specifics but he did apologise for the remark AND for the fact that the kids heard him say it (the latter hurt me more because I believe it sends the wrong message to the next generation).

Back to this topic (and to Super Nova) :

Those types of hurtful comments essentially infer that husbands have no say and we women are some sort of horrible dictators. That’s not the case at all. It’s just that we want a Voice in the domestic sphere that’s heard, valued, respected and regarded. That’s all. The point many men fail to realise is this: the moment we women sense that our opinions and ideas are listened to and are part of the discussion/key decision making process for our household THEN we sense the co ownership in terms of power to move forward as a family and as a TEAM.

As regards my particular family...all I want is this : for everyone (irrespective of their age or gender) to be/feel worthy of having and expressing an opinion that can be heard, considered and discussed.

Do you all want to know WHY I want this for every member of my family? Because that allows for open and effective communication and that there is how I as a wife and a mother can detect potential issues. Kids need to know they can tell their mum anything no matter what it is. Husbands too. The last thing I want is this (and this has happened to others I know unfortunately) ... is for my husband or one of my children to commit suicide because whatever was vexing their spirit was something which they felt unable to share/offload. And make no mistake ...depression and suicide esp amongst boys/men is a scourge in our country.

So anyway I was pissed off with my husband for making such a hurtful comment because it came across as though he was deliberately pressing those buttons he knew would upset me the most.

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Reply #13 - Oct 17th, 2023 at 7:21pm
 
From the Hundred Years Ago Show:


"The great question that has never been answered, and which I have not yet been able to answer, despite my thirty years of research into the feminine soul, is 'What does a woman want?'" Freud once mused in "Sigmund Freud: Life and Work" by Ernest Jones.

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Reply #14 - Oct 17th, 2023 at 7:58pm
 
I'm interested in what Setanta would have to say here?
Him being a Family Man and Sexologist from the Hippy days.
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