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Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital
Reply #120 - Oct 19th, 2023 at 5:28pm
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 5:22pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 4:57pm:
Karnal wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 4:47pm:
Oh? And here I was thinking Hamas' backers were actually very smart and Bibi was a two-faced cheat who couldn't be trusted. Who gave us that idea again?

I forget now. Here we have Culture Wars afficianados like FD, the old boy and Miss Cute & Cheeky sticking up for Uncle and his IDF proxies. We have Bobby playing Chicken Little, preaching the End Times. We have old school Nazis like JC hoping both sides blow each other back to where they came from.

And somewhere in that flappable gaggle of virtue signallers, we have you, changing your mind every six hours.



What more proof of the End Times do you need?

The final battle is at Armageddon.   
  (Israel)



Oh, I most certainly concur.

Stable, determined, steady at the wheel. Western civilisation started in the middle east and may well perish in it.

Israel must be restrained at all costs. Our own peace relies on it.




Israel hasn't gone into Gaza yet - what is stopping them?

Whatever happened to the 6 day war?
This one has already lasted 12 days.


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Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital
Reply #121 - Oct 19th, 2023 at 5:39pm
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 5:14pm:
By the way, if you ever want to know what it's like to be in an Israeli tank unit in an Israeli war, watch Waltz With Bashir, an animated film written, produced, and directed by Ari Folman, recounting his experience as a soldier during the 1982 Lebanon War.

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt1185616/

The film captures the IDF's shock and awe strategy perfectly, a doctrine of total destruction in high-density urban areas carried out by teenage conscripts kitted out with the most destructive weapons known to man.

Steady at the wheel they are not. It would be more correct to say that the Israeli soul is haunted, not only by the memory of Auschwitz, but the collective trauma of each generations' wars ever since - an unbroken succession of destruction, civilian killings, PTSD and survivor guilt.

Four stars.




What Israel is dealing with

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4565380/

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Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital
Reply #122 - Oct 19th, 2023 at 6:14pm
 
Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 5:39pm:
Karnal wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 5:14pm:
By the way, if you ever want to know what it's like to be in an Israeli tank unit in an Israeli war, watch Waltz With Bashir, an animated film written, produced, and directed by Ari Folman, recounting his experience as a soldier during the 1982 Lebanon War.

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt1185616/

The film captures the IDF's shock and awe strategy perfectly, a doctrine of total destruction in high-density urban areas carried out by teenage conscripts kitted out with the most destructive weapons known to man.

Steady at the wheel they are not. It would be more correct to say that the Israeli soul is haunted, not only by the memory of Auschwitz, but the collective trauma of each generations' wars ever since - an unbroken succession of destruction, civilian killings, PTSD and survivor guilt.

Four stars.




What Israel is dealing with

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4565380/




Ee-gad, the human stories on both sides of the Israel-Palestine conflict?

That's not like you, old boy.

Shurely shome mishtake.
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Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital
Reply #123 - Oct 19th, 2023 at 6:23pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 5:28pm:
Karnal wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 5:22pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 4:57pm:
Karnal wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 4:47pm:
Oh? And here I was thinking Hamas' backers were actually very smart and Bibi was a two-faced cheat who couldn't be trusted. Who gave us that idea again?

I forget now. Here we have Culture Wars afficianados like FD, the old boy and Miss Cute & Cheeky sticking up for Uncle and his IDF proxies. We have Bobby playing Chicken Little, preaching the End Times. We have old school Nazis like JC hoping both sides blow each other back to where they came from.

And somewhere in that flappable gaggle of virtue signallers, we have you, changing your mind every six hours.



What more proof of the End Times do you need?

The final battle is at Armageddon.   
  (Israel)



Oh, I most certainly concur.

Stable, determined, steady at the wheel. Western civilisation started in the middle east and may well perish in it.

Israel must be restrained at all costs. Our own peace relies on it.




Israel hasn't gone into Gaza yet - what is stopping them?

Whatever happened to the 6 day war?
This one has already lasted 12 days.




Gone in? Why would they go in?

Quote:
Israel-Hamas war live: Israeli air attacks pound Gaza through the night


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/10/18/israel-hamas-war-live-limited...

Go in and you take on responsibilities. Go in and you need to reconstruct afterwards.

Israel has Gaza encircled on all sides. It's cut off all fuel, water, power and food. Why would Israel want to go in?

Israel likes to shoot fish in a barrel, Bobby. Yeheshua taught them well, no?
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Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital
Reply #124 - Oct 19th, 2023 at 6:42pm
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 6:23pm:
Gone in? Why would they go in?

Quote:
Israel-Hamas war live: Israeli air attacks pound Gaza through the night


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/10/18/israel-hamas-war-live-limited...

Go in and you take on responsibilities. Go in and you need to reconstruct afterwards.

Israel has Gaza encircled on all sides. It's cut off all fuel, water, power and food. Why would Israel want to go in?

Israel likes to shoot fish in a barrel, Bobby. Yeheshua taught them well, no?




It reminds of the war 2006 in Lebanon - that went for 34 days:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Lebanon_War


Notice Israel always destroys massive amounts of property? -
not just innocent human life.

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Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital
Reply #125 - Oct 19th, 2023 at 6:52pm
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 6:23pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 5:28pm:
Karnal wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 5:22pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 4:57pm:
Karnal wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 4:47pm:
Oh? And here I was thinking Hamas' backers were actually very smart and Bibi was a two-faced cheat who couldn't be trusted. Who gave us that idea again?

I forget now. Here we have Culture Wars afficianados like FD, the old boy and Miss Cute & Cheeky sticking up for Uncle and his IDF proxies. We have Bobby playing Chicken Little, preaching the End Times. We have old school Nazis like JC hoping both sides blow each other back to where they came from.

And somewhere in that flappable gaggle of virtue signallers, we have you, changing your mind every six hours.



What more proof of the End Times do you need?

The final battle is at Armageddon.   
  (Israel)



Oh, I most certainly concur.

Stable, determined, steady at the wheel. Western civilisation started in the middle east and may well perish in it.

Israel must be restrained at all costs. Our own peace relies on it.




Israel hasn't gone into Gaza yet - what is stopping them?

Whatever happened to the 6 day war?
This one has already lasted 12 days.




Gone in? Why would they go in?

Quote:
Israel-Hamas war live: Israeli air attacks pound Gaza through the night


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/10/18/israel-hamas-war-live-limited...

Go in and you take on responsibilities. Go in and you need to reconstruct afterwards.

Israel has Gaza encircled on all sides. It's cut off all fuel, water, power and food. Why would Israel want to go in?

Israel likes to shoot fish in a barrel, Bobby. Yeheshua taught them well, no?




is that like heavily armed hamas fighters, rounding up women and children in a kibbutz and beheading the kids in front of the mums and then raping the mums in front of the grandparents and then stabbing the grandparents?

is that what you mean by "shooting fish in a barrell "  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital
Reply #126 - Oct 19th, 2023 at 6:53pm
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 6:23pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 5:28pm:
Karnal wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 5:22pm:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 4:57pm:
Karnal wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 4:47pm:
Oh? And here I was thinking Hamas' backers were actually very smart and Bibi was a two-faced cheat who couldn't be trusted. Who gave us that idea again?

I forget now. Here we have Culture Wars afficianados like FD, the old boy and Miss Cute & Cheeky sticking up for Uncle and his IDF proxies. We have Bobby playing Chicken Little, preaching the End Times. We have old school Nazis like JC hoping both sides blow each other back to where they came from.

And somewhere in that flappable gaggle of virtue signallers, we have you, changing your mind every six hours.



What more proof of the End Times do you need?

The final battle is at Armageddon.   
  (Israel)



Oh, I most certainly concur.

Stable, determined, steady at the wheel. Western civilisation started in the middle east and may well perish in it.

Israel must be restrained at all costs. Our own peace relies on it.




Israel hasn't gone into Gaza yet - what is stopping them?

Whatever happened to the 6 day war?
This one has already lasted 12 days.




Gone in? Why would they go in?

Quote:
Israel-Hamas war live: Israeli air attacks pound Gaza through the night


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/10/18/israel-hamas-war-live-limited...

Go in and you take on responsibilities. Go in and you need to reconstruct afterwards.

Israel has Gaza encircled on all sides. It's cut off all fuel, water, power and food. Why would Israel want to go in?

Israel likes to shoot fish in a barrel, Bobby. Yeheshua taught them well, no?


You trust aljazeera? Of course you do.
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Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital
Reply #127 - Oct 19th, 2023 at 7:03pm
 
Setanta wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 6:53pm:
You trust aljazeera? Of course you do.



https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/al-jazeera/



Overall, we rate Al Jazeera Left-Center biased, based on story selection that slightly favors the left, and Mixed for factual reporting due to failed fact checks that were not corrected and misleading extreme editorial bias that favors Qatar.

Bias Rating: LEFT-CENTER
Factual Reporting: MIXED
Country: Qatar
MBFC’s Country Freedom Rank: LIMITED FREEDOM
Media Type: TV Station
Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: MEDIUM CREDIBILITY



Al Jazeera also has an opinion page that exhibits significant bias against Israel. In this article, the author uses highly negative emotional words as evidenced by this quote: “Europe is increasingly sharing Israel’s racist approach to border security and adopting its deadly technologies.” This article, however, is properly sourced from credible media outlets. Another article, “How many more ways can Israel sentence Palestinians to death?” also uses loaded language that is negative toward Israel. Further, the opinion page does not favor US President Donald Trump through this article: ‘Barbed wire-plus‘: Borders know no love. In general, opinion pieces are routinely biased against Israel and right-wing ideologies.
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Reply #128 - Oct 19th, 2023 at 7:09pm
 
In another thread, The Rentboyrooter quoted an ex Hamas leader who said they don't target civilians, and it was someone else who did it.

Last night aljazeerABC were shrieking Da JEWS DID IT. Tonight their headline

Many rushed to condemn Israel for the Gaza hospital blast. But what does the evidence say?

It should read Many rushed to condemn Israel for the Gaza hospital blast, including us.

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Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital
Reply #129 - Oct 19th, 2023 at 7:19pm
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 3:17pm:
Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 2:09pm:
Up for Mad Matty Multi Moron Mong 😂🤣😆

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 10:04am:
Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 8:42am:
the ancient Philistines were neither Arabs,


Of course they weren’t Arabs. If you’ve ever studied Ancient History at Uni you will know that because you are taught that the Philistines were Greeks (in fact they were islander Greeks ie sea faring people).

Note : Just so you ALL know (because you obviously don’t know as no one here appears to be of Mediterranean descent) even today as in right at this moment in time as I type ...mainland Greeks identify differently to islander Greeks. It’s still an US/THEM mentality. Mainland Greeks are recognised as being more cultured/highly educated and right wing conservatives who are deeply religious. Greek Islanders are viewed (and they are) casual, lazy generally under/uneducated left wing Communists who are more or less Atheists/Agnostics. If you are a mainland Greek you are expected to NOT marry an island Greek. They are soooo different. Oh Greek islanders speak strange dialects of the modern Greek language which makes them appear even more strange.

Context is everything. Without it you won’t be able to GET the full picture. So Ancient Greek sea farers sailed across the Mediterranean (that’s basically what they did 24/7 in order to trade) and over time they learned the different languages around them and forged alliances and soon some of them saw fit to migrate across into a VERY SMALL part of what we now misleadingly think might be Palestine. Those Ancient Greek sea farers were only a small bunch of people who inter married with the NON JEWISH people (remember the Jews were super strict regarding Jews vs Gentiles ie they were forbidden under the Old Testament to inter marry with non Jews (Gentiles) or even eat what Gentiles ate. So what did these Greek migrants do? They were Gentiles and as such they (eventually) married the Phoenicians (Ancient Lebs who were also Gentile Mediterranean sea farers so they had lots in common) and lo and behold over time ... the Ancient Greek sea farers (remember they were few in number to begin with hence why they only occupied a SMALL territory) were bred out as each generation married into the surrounding Phoenician (Ancient Leb) ethnic people. Today’s Palestinians are essentially Arabs. The Ancient Greek in them is gone. Occasionally I myself sometimes see a  Palestinian girl here or there who reminds me of a Greek cousin but 99% of the time I can see they’re a completely different ethnic identity. Also as 99% are Muslim Arabs (thanks Muhammad for coming along much later on only to cause further mayhem) their religion (which many of you Anglo Saxon Celts just don’t get for some reason) ie Islam is a further crucial key element of their ethnic identity. It dictates every aspect of their mentality and how they live day to day. It’s a very powerful force in Palestinian identity.

Meantime ... the Ancient Greek seafarers who decided NOT to migrate over stayed home and their descendants (assuming they never ultimately migrated to the USA or UK or Canada or Australia etc) are today still Greek and are mainly Greek Orthodox and as they’re islanders they’re still seen as being inferior to mainland Greeks ESPECIALLY if those mainland Greeks are from Athens, Sparta and the Greek Macedonian regions (my beautiful Mum was a Greek Macedonian girl so she was kinda upper class lol)

👆 A lot of this is learned in 1st year Ancient History at Uni. Admittedly it’s much easier if you ARE ethnically of Greek descent as you’re shoved into Greek school from the age of 4. Same applies with Italian School. God it was a tough gig being 4 yrs old and attending so many school lessons.

Anyway it’s all interesting and important esp if you’re going to jump into topics like this.

Cheers everyone (not you Mad Matty Moron).




Thanks, dear. Noted.


Is that all? Here I was expecting at least a tiny little bit of antagonism from you.

Not fair  Angry
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Reply #130 - Oct 19th, 2023 at 7:23pm
 
I have seen the horse they left outside Troy...Very cool. Cool
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Reply #131 - Oct 19th, 2023 at 7:39pm
 
Gordon wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 7:09pm:
In another thread, The Rentboyrooter quoted an ex Hamas leader who said they don't target civilians, and it was someone else who did it.

Last night aljazeerABC were shrieking Da JEWS DID IT. Tonight their headline

Many rushed to condemn Israel for the Gaza hospital blast. But what does the evidence say?

It should read Many rushed to condemn Israel for the Gaza hospital blast, including us.

https://i.ibb.co/0VKGD8Z/Screenshot-2023-10-19-at-20-06-00-ABC-News-Australian-B...


Al Jazeera? Tonight, Our ABC cited evidence from Al Jazeera to indicate Israel didn't do it.

If I was a naughty old Boong-fingerer, I'd be curious. Who knows? Our ABC and Al Jazeera may have evidence on you.
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Reply #132 - Oct 19th, 2023 at 7:44pm
 
Karnal wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 7:39pm:
Gordon wrote on Oct 19th, 2023 at 7:09pm:
In another thread, The Rentboyrooter quoted an ex Hamas leader who said they don't target civilians, and it was someone else who did it.

Last night aljazeerABC were shrieking Da JEWS DID IT. Tonight their headline

Many rushed to condemn Israel for the Gaza hospital blast. But what does the evidence say?

It should read Many rushed to condemn Israel for the Gaza hospital blast, including us.

https://i.ibb.co/0VKGD8Z/Screenshot-2023-10-19-at-20-06-00-ABC-News-Australian-B...


Al Jazeera? Tonight, Our ABC cited evidence from Al Jazeera to indicate Israel didn't do it.

If I was a naughty old Boong-fingerer, I'd be curious. Who knows? Our ABC and Al Jazeera may have evidence on you.



see my Reply #127 -

notice that sir brave Bobby was the only one who went to
a media bias check website to find out the truth?

All others are forgiven
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Reply #133 - Oct 19th, 2023 at 8:23pm
 

IDF claim footage proves Gaza hospital explosion caused by 'misfired terror rocket'

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Reply #134 - Oct 19th, 2023 at 9:10pm
 
https://www.wionews.com/world/i-may-go-former-us-president-trump-mulls-visiting-...


‘I may go,’ Former US President Trump mulls visiting Israel amid war against Hamas



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Washington DC, USAEdited By: Vikrant SinghUpdated: Oct 19, 2023, 03:46 PM IST


Former US President Donald Trump said Thursday (Oct 19) that he ‘may’ visit Israel to show support amidst its ongoing war against Hamas in the Gaza strip.

His comments came hot on the heels of a trip by President Joe Biden to West Asia, during which the US leader showered unequivocal support on the Jewish nation.

"I may, I may go, I may go, my daughters did (visited). But I believe in letting them do what they have to do. They have to straighten it out. What's happening in Israel is all of those people dead would have never happened, ever, not even a chance. Even the Democrats admit that if I were President. Thank you very much," Trump said while responding to a reporter.
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