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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58927 Here Gender:	Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Reply #45 - Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:34pm Quote: Hamas blows up its own hospital Odds about 2% probable - 98% Israel - Time may tell the story.
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Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital
Reply #46 - Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:42pm

Dnarever wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:34pm:

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Hamas blows up its own hospital

Odds about 2% probable - 98% Israel - Time may tell the story.

Indeed.

If I was a betting man, and I'm not, I'd lay down money betting it was Israel.

Unfortunately though, I don't think we'll ever know the truth.

Independent investigators will never be able to gain access to the site, so all we have is Israel's word.

And I don't believe a word they say just as I don't believe a word that comes from Hamas or any other terrorist group.

The only people I support 100% in this insane conflict are the innocent men, women, and children of Palestine and Israel.

i.e. the innocent Muslims, Jews, and Christians.

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Reply #47 - Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:44pm

Dnarever wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:34pm:

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Hamas blows up its own hospital

Odds about 2% probable - 98% Israel - Time may tell the story.

Why do you take the view that those are the odds? We know Hamas uses populated areas and places like hospitals that they can hide behind. What's so unbelievable that they stuffed a rocket launch and fried everything in the parking lot. Note the burn patterns on the cars.

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Reply #48 - Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:47pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:42pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:34pm:

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Hamas blows up its own hospital

Odds about 2% probable - 98% Israel - Time may tell the story.

Indeed.

If I was a betting man, and I'm not, I'd lay down money betting it was Israel.

Unfortunately though, I don't think we'll ever know the truth.

Independent investigators will never be able to gain access to the site, so all we have is Israel's word.

And I don't believe a word they say just as I don't believe a word that comes from Hamas or any other terrorist group.

The only people I support 100% in this insane conflict are the innocent men, women, and children of Palestine and Israel.

i.e. the innocent Muslims, Jews, and Christians.

is video of ground zero.

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Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital
Reply #49 - Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:49pm

Setanta wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:44pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:34pm:

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Hamas blows up its own hospital

Odds about 2% probable - 98% Israel - Time may tell the story.

Why do you take the view that those are the odds? We know Hamas uses populated areas and places like hospitals that they can hide behind. What's so unbelievable that they stuffed a rocket launch and fried everything in the parking lot. Note the burn patterns on the cars.

At the same time Israel is bombing the crap out of Gaza.... how convenient

I always love it when all of a sudden all the couch potatoes are experts in things they have absolutely no idea about, like burn patterns from rockets v's an explosion from in house Cheesy

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Reply #50 - Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:51pm

They use home made rockets, it happens all the bloody time.

The Hamas armed wing and other Palestinian armed groups launched rockets and fired mortars toward Israeli population centers that resulted in the deaths of 12 civilians in Israel and injuries to dozens of others. Munitions apparently directed toward Israel that misfired and fell short killed and injured an undetermined number of Palestinians in Gaza. Human Rights Watch investigated several of the attacks that killed Israeli citizens, as well as a Palestinian rocket attack that misfired above the city of Jabalya in the Gaza Strip, killing 7 Palestinian civilians and injuring 15.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2021/08/12/palestinian-rockets-may-killed-civilians-isr...

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Reply #51 - Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:52pm

Setanta wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:44pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:34pm:

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Hamas blows up its own hospital

Odds about 2% probable - 98% Israel - Time may tell the story.

Why do you take the view that those are the odds? We know Hamas uses populated areas and places like hospitals that they can hide behind. What's so unbelievable that they stuffed a rocket launch and fried everything in the parking lot. Note the burn patterns on the cars.

Yes, we know Hamas are animals.

What you say isn't unbelievable - it's just that there isn't a skerik of evidence to support the theory.

We also know that Israel would like to see all Palestinians exterminated.

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Reply #52 - Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:53pm

Setanta wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:42pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:34pm:

Quote:

Hamas blows up its own hospital

Odds about 2% probable - 98% Israel - Time may tell the story.

Indeed.

If I was a betting man, and I'm not, I'd lay down money betting it was Israel.

Unfortunately though, I don't think we'll ever know the truth.

Independent investigators will never be able to gain access to the site, so all we have is Israel's word.

And I don't believe a word they say just as I don't believe a word that comes from Hamas or any other terrorist group.

The only people I support 100% in this insane conflict are the innocent men, women, and children of Palestine and Israel.

i.e. the innocent Muslims, Jews, and Christians.

is video of ground zero.

That's not proof that it was Hamas (or Israel).

It's just proof that there is video footage of ground zero.

Surely you can understand this.

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Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital
Reply #53 - Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:55pm

John Smith wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:49pm:

Setanta wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:44pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:34pm:

Quote:

Hamas blows up its own hospital

Odds about 2% probable - 98% Israel - Time may tell the story.

Why do you take the view that those are the odds? We know Hamas uses populated areas and places like hospitals that they can hide behind. What's so unbelievable that they stuffed a rocket launch and fried everything in the parking lot. Note the burn patterns on the cars.

At the same time Israel is bombing the crap out of Gaza.... how convenient

I always love it when all of a sudden all the couch potatoes are experts in things they have absolutely no idea about, like burn patterns from rockets v's an explosion from in house Cheesy

At the same time Hamas is launching rockets.... how convenient

You don't need to be an expert to see the rear of cars fried and the front much less so.

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Reply #54 - Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:55pm

As big an idiot Biden is, he wouldn't say this without having been advised by his experts.

Biden waded into the furious counter-accusations over who was responsible for the hospital explosion and said that based on what he had seen, Israel was not responsible.

“Based on what I’ve seen it appears as though it was done by the other team, not you,” he told Netanyahu

https://www.smh.com.au/world/middle-east/hamas-israel-conflict-live-updates-joe-biden-set-to-travel-to-israel-as-us-warns-iran-against-involvement-idf-strikes-hezbollah-targets-in-lebanon-20231017-p5ed1b.html

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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20690 Gordon Gender:	Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital Reply #55 - Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:56pm US President Joe Biden is speaking in Tel Aviv alongside Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Biden said that Hamas’ atrocities were so bad that they made ISIS look “somewhat more rational”.
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Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital
Reply #56 - Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:59pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:53pm:

Setanta wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:42pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:34pm:

Quote:

Hamas blows up its own hospital

Odds about 2% probable - 98% Israel - Time may tell the story.

Indeed.

If I was a betting man, and I'm not, I'd lay down money betting it was Israel.

Unfortunately though, I don't think we'll ever know the truth.

Independent investigators will never be able to gain access to the site, so all we have is Israel's word.

And I don't believe a word they say just as I don't believe a word that comes from Hamas or any other terrorist group.

The only people I support 100% in this insane conflict are the innocent men, women, and children of Palestine and Israel.

i.e. the innocent Muslims, Jews, and Christians.

is video of ground zero.

That's not proof that it was Hamas (or Israel).

It's just proof that there is video footage of ground zero.

Surely you can understand this.

Yes I can. I can also understand there is no evidence of aerial ordnance. Perhaps the Palestinian taking the video chose not to show how horrid Israel is?

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Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital
Reply #57 - Oct 18^th, 2023 at 8:01pm

Setanta wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:53pm:

Setanta wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:42pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:34pm:

Quote:

Hamas blows up its own hospital

Odds about 2% probable - 98% Israel - Time may tell the story.

Indeed.

If I was a betting man, and I'm not, I'd lay down money betting it was Israel.

Unfortunately though, I don't think we'll ever know the truth.

Independent investigators will never be able to gain access to the site, so all we have is Israel's word.

And I don't believe a word they say just as I don't believe a word that comes from Hamas or any other terrorist group.

The only people I support 100% in this insane conflict are the innocent men, women, and children of Palestine and Israel.

i.e. the innocent Muslims, Jews, and Christians.

is video of ground zero.

That's not proof that it was Hamas (or Israel).

It's just proof that there is video footage of ground zero.

Surely you can understand this.

Yes I can. I can also understand there is no evidence of aerial ordnance. Perhaps the Palestinian taking the video chose not to show how horrid Israel is?

IDF says it was a rocket:

a
: a firework consisting of a case partly filled with a combustible composition fastened to a guiding stick and propelled through the air by the rearward discharge of the gases liberated by combustion
b
: a similar device used as an incendiary weapon or as a propelling unit (as for a lifesaving line)

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Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital
Reply #58 - Oct 18^th, 2023 at 8:02pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 8:01pm:

Setanta wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:53pm:

Setanta wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:42pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:34pm:

Quote:

Hamas blows up its own hospital

Odds about 2% probable - 98% Israel - Time may tell the story.

Indeed.

If I was a betting man, and I'm not, I'd lay down money betting it was Israel.

Unfortunately though, I don't think we'll ever know the truth.

Independent investigators will never be able to gain access to the site, so all we have is Israel's word.

And I don't believe a word they say just as I don't believe a word that comes from Hamas or any other terrorist group.

The only people I support 100% in this insane conflict are the innocent men, women, and children of Palestine and Israel.

i.e. the innocent Muslims, Jews, and Christians.

is video of ground zero.

That's not proof that it was Hamas (or Israel).

It's just proof that there is video footage of ground zero.

Surely you can understand this.

Yes I can. I can also understand there is no evidence of aerial ordnance. Perhaps the Palestinian taking the video chose not to show how horrid Israel is?

IDF says it was a rocket.

Why leave out the rest of what they say?

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Re: Hamas blows up its own hospital
Reply #59 - Oct 18^th, 2023 at 8:03pm

Setanta wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 8:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 8:01pm:

Setanta wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:53pm:

Setanta wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:42pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 18^th, 2023 at 7:34pm:

Quote:

Hamas blows up its own hospital

Odds about 2% probable - 98% Israel - Time may tell the story.

Indeed.

If I was a betting man, and I'm not, I'd lay down money betting it was Israel.

Unfortunately though, I don't think we'll ever know the truth.

Independent investigators will never be able to gain access to the site, so all we have is Israel's word.

And I don't believe a word they say just as I don't believe a word that comes from Hamas or any other terrorist group.

The only people I support 100% in this insane conflict are the innocent men, women, and children of Palestine and Israel.

i.e. the innocent Muslims, Jews, and Christians.

is video of ground zero.

That's not proof that it was Hamas (or Israel).

It's just proof that there is video footage of ground zero.

Surely you can understand this.

Yes I can. I can also understand there is no evidence of aerial ordnance. Perhaps the Palestinian taking the video chose not to show how horrid Israel is?

IDF says it was a rocket.

Why leave out the rest of what they say?

Why change the subject?

They say it was a rocket.

Are they lying?

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