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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1080 - Nov 13th, 2023 at 9:03am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 8:48am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 8:40am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 8:35am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 8:30am:
Iran and Saudi Arabia may be playing go-along-get-along over this, but it is a paper-thin alliance.

Shia and Sunni despise each other far more than either despises Jews - they've been at each other for 1400 years.

Saudi Arabia is seeing its future in alliance with Israel, as do most of the Arab states. Iran sees this as a threat to its ambitions of supremacy in the Middle East.

However, all of them are now aware that this situation could trigger uprisings, civil war and revolutions within their respective borders which could, and would, threaten or collapse their respective regimes' grip on power.



Totally and utterly untrue.

Unsubstantiated BS!

Invented delusions!

So you're not aware of the Shia-Sunni divide and its millennia-old, blood-fueled struggle for Islamic supremacy of doctrine, then.


FMD

You really are a moron!

Here’s a free tip Meister Moron : Stop googling shyte from thousands of years ago. It’s the domain of Mad Manic Methra and her ilk. So it’s not a good look and it only makes YOU look dumber and more clueless than you already are. 

You really have no idea. I mean where do I even start with your anachronistic googled BS?

You’re only misinforming yourself here. No one else. Oh Methra maybe. Only because she’s operating on her last drug fried brain cell. Or 80 yr old Drunk who lost his marbles many years ago. Think about that before you next post anything at me ok? And don’t forget I’m 100% Mediterranean. I mix with Mediterranean people. Lots of different and interesting Mediterranean people. They’re not all Catholic or Orthodox either. Many are Muslims too.



Ok Mister Moron

One of my own cousins is half Aussie half Greek. Her mum is Anglo Celt but her Dad (my 1st cousin) is full blooded Greek.

She married a Muslim guy. They’ve been married now for 10 years.

That Muslim guy has a lot to say about what is going on atm. None of it supports even remotely what you’re posting on OzPol.

I’m surrounded by 1st Gen Aussies of Lebanese Catholic and Lebanese Orthodox descent. And of course there’s the filthy rich Muslim drug lord who lives across the road and a few doors down.

I’m having morning or afternoon tea/coffee with these people all the time.

Nothing you post here indicates what these people and their entire clans are thinking or feeling.

Nothing. Your googled attempts have taken you down the wrong path.

You’re googling bits n pieces of ancient and modern history in some vain hope that it will give you the context you need to make some call on what’s going on right now?

Well you can’t.
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1081 - Nov 13th, 2023 at 9:03am
 
mothra wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 8:32am:
Sophia wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 8:29am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 8:03am:
Back on topic.

If I was a Jew living in Israel I would be very worried and upset
about the way Israel is conducting this war.
Too many innocent civilians have been killed -
the death toll is about 11,500 people with many more
unaccounted for who are either dead under rubble
or trapped under rubble.
About half of Gaza is completely destroyed - most likely needlessly.

All that does for Israel is incite antisemitism around the world
and increases the likelihood of an all out war with neighboring countries.
What if Tel Aviv is leveled too with Hezbollah rockets?


A few Jews are speaking out against it too.
And even saw on news the POTUS didn’t support it going this far.

Were you able to see the link I put up… Israelis army on the beach after conquering Gaza.
Laughing and saying how happy they are.
Total land grab…



Did you catch the clip i posted a page back? I only bring it up because i think it;s so damn well worth watching:




I will certainly look forward to watch this later … I’m about to go out to lunch with a friend (Sherri that had occasionally posted on this forum but now has 6 grandkids and super busy) we’ve both been unable to match a day to meet up but today is it!
And Sherri and I met from being forum friends back in the Austar days of 2002!
See, forums can be a most blessed and positive thing.

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Reply #1082 - Nov 13th, 2023 at 9:05am
 

It's like the old saying -
people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Allah has the bomb - it's in Pakistan.
I've heard rumors on the web that Pakistan could provide nuclear tipped missiles to Iran.
It would only take one missile and Tel Aviv would be gone and
no one would know who fired it.

As I said - I would be very worried if I was living in Israel right now.
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1083 - Nov 13th, 2023 at 9:06am
 
Sophia wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 9:03am:
mothra wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 8:32am:
Sophia wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 8:29am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 8:03am:
Back on topic.

If I was a Jew living in Israel I would be very worried and upset
about the way Israel is conducting this war.
Too many innocent civilians have been killed -
the death toll is about 11,500 people with many more
unaccounted for who are either dead under rubble
or trapped under rubble.
About half of Gaza is completely destroyed - most likely needlessly.

All that does for Israel is incite antisemitism around the world
and increases the likelihood of an all out war with neighboring countries.
What if Tel Aviv is leveled too with Hezbollah rockets?


A few Jews are speaking out against it too.
And even saw on news the POTUS didn’t support it going this far.

Were you able to see the link I put up… Israelis army on the beach after conquering Gaza.
Laughing and saying how happy they are.
Total land grab…



Did you catch the clip i posted a page back? I only bring it up because i think it;s so damn well worth watching:




I will certainly look forward to watch this later … I’m about to go out to lunch with a friend (Sherri that had occasionally posted on this forum but now has 6 grandkids and super busy) we’ve both been unable to match a day to meet up but today is it!
And Sherri and I met from being forum friends back in the Austar days of 2002!
See, forums can be a most blessed and positive thing.




Enjoy, Sophia.
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1084 - Nov 13th, 2023 at 9:06am
 
Bobby. wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 9:01am:
mothra wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 8:52am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 8:47am:
Yes I watched it.

Many Jews are against the disproportionate response by Israel on Gaza.

Bibi is playing with high stakes.


So many. And that many are deeply offended by claims that speaking out against the actions of Israel towards it's occupied territories is antisemitic ... knowing as they do what that really means.



It's like the old saying -
people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Allah has the bomb - it's in Pakistan.
I've heard rumors on the web that Pakistan could provide nuclear tipped missiles to Iran.
It would only take one missile and Tel Aviv would be gone and
no one would know who fired it.

As I said - I would be very worried if I was living in Israel right now.

They'd know alright. And on that, Saudi Arabia - with all the funds they have at their disposal - is likely already in the market for a Pakistani-made nuclear weapon to use against Iran in that scenario.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1085 - Nov 13th, 2023 at 9:08am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 8:57am:
While the Shia-Sunni conflict is by far the greatest schism in Islam, it's by no means the only one.

One of the most ludicrous was the debate Pakistan had with itself when it became a Muslim nation-state.

What should have seemed like obvious questions - 'What is a Muslim?' and, 'What is the definitive text by which a Muslim should live?' quickly degenerated into farcical debate because, not only was there the Shia-Sunni schism, there were a myriad of competeing Islamic doctrines that head developed across central Aisa over millennia.

To date, Pakistan has not been able to define conclusively what it means to be a ctizen of its Islamic state.

V.S. Naipaul, Among the Believers is an excellent review of the minds and souls of the people's who converted to Islam.




The ambivalence toward the West that agitates the hearts and minds of the Iranian Shia carries over, so Naipaul discovered, into the next Islamic republic to which his travels took him—Pakistan, founded as a Sunni Muslim state at the time of the breakup of the former British Indian empire in 1947. Here he found an equally pervasive though slightly different brand of illogicality. Whereas in Iran people appeared to Naipaul to be maddened by anger and frustration, expending their energies in a continual round of demonstrations and outpourings of hatred (but not in hard work, as he tartly remarks, which was the only means by which the revolution might possibly have succeeded), in Pakistan he saw a populace cast down and debilitated by the failure of the original experiment of a modern Muslim state.

Since its inception, Pakistan has never developed the political or economic institutions necessary for the progress and prosperity of its people. The general reaction to this failure has been to blame, not the concept of the Islamic republic but the inadequacies and faults of the citizens themselves:

Failure only led back to the faith. . . . If the state failed, it wasn’t because the dream was flawed, or the faith flawed; it could only be because men had failed the faith. A purer and purer faith began to be called for. And in that quest for the Islamic absolute—the society of believers, where every action was instinct with worship—men lost sight of the political origins of their state.

To sustain its tottering economy, Pakistan now largely depends upon the export of its own citizens and upon the earnings they remit from abroad—notably from the Gulf oil states and from the infidel West. The many ironies implicit in the recourse to this economic expedient are captured by Naipaul in a passage which brilliantly encapsulates the whole Muslim dilemma of treating with a civilization held to be anathema by the true believer but whose liberties and institutions he is only too ready to exploit:

All the rejection of the West is contained within the assumption that there will always exist out there a living, creative civilization, oddly neutral, open to all to appeal to. Rejection, therefore, is not absolute rejection. . . . [So] the emigrants pour out from the land of the faith: thirty thousand Pakistanis shipped by the manpower-export experts to West Berlin alone, to claim the political asylum meant for the people of East Germany.
https://www.commentary.org/articles/j-b-kelly/among-the-believers-an-islamic-jou...
From as Granular review:

Islam, he claimed, had both enslaved and attempted to wipe out other cultures."It has had a calamitous effect on converted peoples. To be converted you have to destroy your past, destroy your history. You have to stamp on it, you have to say 'my ancestral culture does not exist, it doesn't matter'."

Sir Vidia claimed what he called "this abolition of the self demanded by Muslims was worse than the similar colonial abolition of identity. It is much, much worse in fact... You cannot just say you came out of nothing."  He argued that Pakistan was the living proof of the damage Islam could wreak.

"The story of Pakistan is a terror story actually. It started with a poet who thought that Muslims were so highly evolved that they should have a special place in India for themselves.  This wish to sift countries of unnecessary and irrelevant populations is terrible and this is exactly what happened in Pakistan."
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1086 - Nov 13th, 2023 at 9:08am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 9:06am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 9:01am:
mothra wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 8:52am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 8:47am:
Yes I watched it.

Many Jews are against the disproportionate response by Israel on Gaza.

Bibi is playing with high stakes.


So many. And that many are deeply offended by claims that speaking out against the actions of Israel towards it's occupied territories is antisemitic ... knowing as they do what that really means.



It's like the old saying -
people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Allah has the bomb - it's in Pakistan.
I've heard rumors on the web that Pakistan could provide nuclear tipped missiles to Iran.
It would only take one missile and Tel Aviv would be gone and
no one would know who fired it.

As I said - I would be very worried if I was living in Israel right now.

They'd know alright. And on that, Saudi Arabia - with all the funds they have at their disposal - is likely already in the market for a Pakistani-made nuclear weapon to use against Iran in that scenario.




You missed my point.

no one would know who fired it.

What would then be Israel's reply?
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1087 - Nov 13th, 2023 at 9:10am
 
Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 9:03am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 8:48am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 8:40am:
Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 8:35am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 8:30am:
Iran and Saudi Arabia may be playing go-along-get-along over this, but it is a paper-thin alliance.

Shia and Sunni despise each other far more than either despises Jews - they've been at each other for 1400 years.

Saudi Arabia is seeing its future in alliance with Israel, as do most of the Arab states. Iran sees this as a threat to its ambitions of supremacy in the Middle East.

However, all of them are now aware that this situation could trigger uprisings, civil war and revolutions within their respective borders which could, and would, threaten or collapse their respective regimes' grip on power.



Totally and utterly untrue.

Unsubstantiated BS!

Invented delusions!

So you're not aware of the Shia-Sunni divide and its millennia-old, blood-fueled struggle for Islamic supremacy of doctrine, then.


FMD

You really are a moron!

Here’s a free tip Meister Moron : Stop googling shyte from thousands of years ago. It’s the domain of Mad Manic Methra and her ilk. So it’s not a good look and it only makes YOU look dumber and more clueless than you already are. 

You really have no idea. I mean where do I even start with your anachronistic googled BS?

You’re only misinforming yourself here. No one else. Oh Methra maybe. Only because she’s operating on her last drug fried brain cell. Or 80 yr old Drunk who lost his marbles many years ago. Think about that before you next post anything at me ok? And don’t forget I’m 100% Mediterranean. I mix with Mediterranean people. Lots of different and interesting Mediterranean people. They’re not all Catholic or Orthodox either. Many are Muslims too.



Ok Mister Moron

One of my own cousins is half Aussie half Greek. Her mum is Anglo Celt but her Dad (my 1st cousin) is full blooded Greek.

She married a Muslim guy. They’ve been married now for 10 years.

That Muslim guy has a lot to say about what is going on atm. None of it supports even remotely what you’re posting on OzPol.

I’m surrounded by 1st Gen Aussies of Lebanese Catholic and Lebanese Orthodox descent. And of course there’s the filthy rich Muslim drug lord who lives across the road and a few doors down.

I’m having morning or afternoon tea/coffee with these people all the time.

Nothing you post here indicates what these people and their entire clans are thinking or feeling.

Nothing. Your googled attempts have taken you down the wrong path.

You’re googling bits n pieces of ancient and modern history in some vain hope that it will give you the context you need to make some call on what’s going on right now?

Well you can’t.


And FFS stop hanging around the old boomer nutjob Methra troll who needs to jump into drug rehab and get off unemployment benefits because she’s unwittingly proven to Centrelink she has a lot of time and physical ability in her recent stint in helping to ORGANISE rallies  (using online sites) to protest against Israel and the USA.
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1088 - Nov 13th, 2023 at 9:16am
 
Bobby. wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 9:08am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 9:06am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 9:01am:
mothra wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 8:52am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 8:47am:
Yes I watched it.

Many Jews are against the disproportionate response by Israel on Gaza.

Bibi is playing with high stakes.


So many. And that many are deeply offended by claims that speaking out against the actions of Israel towards it's occupied territories is antisemitic ... knowing as they do what that really means.



It's like the old saying -
people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Allah has the bomb - it's in Pakistan.
I've heard rumors on the web that Pakistan could provide nuclear tipped missiles to Iran.
It would only take one missile and Tel Aviv would be gone and
no one would know who fired it.

As I said - I would be very worried if I was living in Israel right now.

They'd know alright. And on that, Saudi Arabia - with all the funds they have at their disposal - is likely already in the market for a Pakistani-made nuclear weapon to use against Iran in that scenario.




You missed my point.

no one would know who fired it.

What would then be Israel's reply?

Israel would know who fired it and why. There's only one state that has been actively seeking the possession of nuclear weapons to change the power dynamics within the Middle East.
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Reply #1089 - Nov 13th, 2023 at 9:16am
 
Larry, you know i'm about 10 years younger than your pretend age, We've been through this before. I am actually gen X .... but so close to the edge i'm nearly gen Z. In fact, by some measures i am.

Meanwhile, you were in you late 50's 15 years ago at Yahoo.

I mean think about it. Nobody except for somebody trying to deceive goes on about their age as much as you so.

Dead give-away.
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Reply #1090 - Nov 13th, 2023 at 9:18am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 9:16am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 9:08am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 9:06am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 9:01am:
mothra wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 8:52am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 8:47am:
Yes I watched it.

Many Jews are against the disproportionate response by Israel on Gaza.

Bibi is playing with high stakes.


So many. And that many are deeply offended by claims that speaking out against the actions of Israel towards it's occupied territories is antisemitic ... knowing as they do what that really means.



It's like the old saying -
people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Allah has the bomb - it's in Pakistan.
I've heard rumors on the web that Pakistan could provide nuclear tipped missiles to Iran.
It would only take one missile and Tel Aviv would be gone and
no one would know who fired it.

As I said - I would be very worried if I was living in Israel right now.

They'd know alright. And on that, Saudi Arabia - with all the funds they have at their disposal - is likely already in the market for a Pakistani-made nuclear weapon to use against Iran in that scenario.




You missed my point.

no one would know who fired it.

What would then be Israel's reply?

Israel would know who fired it and why. There's only one state that has been actively seeking the possession of nuclear weapons to change the power dynamics within the Middle East.




Only one becauase Israel is already armed.
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1091 - Nov 13th, 2023 at 9:20am
 
mothra wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 9:18am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 9:16am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 9:08am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 9:06am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 9:01am:
mothra wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 8:52am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 8:47am:
Yes I watched it.

Many Jews are against the disproportionate response by Israel on Gaza.

Bibi is playing with high stakes.


So many. And that many are deeply offended by claims that speaking out against the actions of Israel towards it's occupied territories is antisemitic ... knowing as they do what that really means.



It's like the old saying -
people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Allah has the bomb - it's in Pakistan.
I've heard rumors on the web that Pakistan could provide nuclear tipped missiles to Iran.
It would only take one missile and Tel Aviv would be gone and
no one would know who fired it.

As I said - I would be very worried if I was living in Israel right now.

They'd know alright. And on that, Saudi Arabia - with all the funds they have at their disposal - is likely already in the market for a Pakistani-made nuclear weapon to use against Iran in that scenario.




You missed my point.

no one would know who fired it.

What would then be Israel's reply?

Israel would know who fired it and why. There's only one state that has been actively seeking the possession of nuclear weapons to change the power dynamics within the Middle East.




Only one becauase Israel is already armed.

Yes, it's almost certain that Israel possesses nuclear weapons.
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1092 - Nov 13th, 2023 at 9:20am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 9:16am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 9:08am:
You missed my point.

no one would know who fired it.

What would then be Israel's reply?

Israel would know who fired it and why. There's only one state that has been actively seeking the possession of nuclear weapons to change the power dynamics within the Middle East.




Iran wouldn't be stupid enough to fire it from their territory.
They would probably fire it from a ship near Yemen or Oman or some other place.
No one could pin it on Iran -
that's how Iran works with all its proxy wars.

Tel Aviv would be gone and the whole world would wonder who did it.
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Reply #1093 - Nov 13th, 2023 at 9:22am
 
Frank wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 9:08am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 8:57am:
While the Shia-Sunni conflict is by far the greatest schism in Islam, it's by no means the only one.

One of the most ludicrous was the debate Pakistan had with itself when it became a Muslim nation-state.

What should have seemed like obvious questions - 'What is a Muslim?' and, 'What is the definitive text by which a Muslim should live?' quickly degenerated into farcical debate because, not only was there the Shia-Sunni schism, there were a myriad of competeing Islamic doctrines that head developed across central Aisa over millennia.

To date, Pakistan has not been able to define conclusively what it means to be a ctizen of its Islamic state.

V.S. Naipaul, Among the Believers is an excellent review of the minds and souls of the people's who converted to Islam.




The ambivalence toward the West that agitates the hearts and minds of the Iranian Shia carries over, so Naipaul discovered, into the next Islamic republic to which his travels took him—Pakistan, founded as a Sunni Muslim state at the time of the breakup of the former British Indian empire in 1947. Here he found an equally pervasive though slightly different brand of illogicality. Whereas in Iran people appeared to Naipaul to be maddened by anger and frustration, expending their energies in a continual round of demonstrations and outpourings of hatred (but not in hard work, as he tartly remarks, which was the only means by which the revolution might possibly have succeeded), in Pakistan he saw a populace cast down and debilitated by the failure of the original experiment of a modern Muslim state.

Since its inception, Pakistan has never developed the political or economic institutions necessary for the progress and prosperity of its people. The general reaction to this failure has been to blame, not the concept of the Islamic republic but the inadequacies and faults of the citizens themselves:

Failure only led back to the faith. . . . If the state failed, it wasn’t because the dream was flawed, or the faith flawed; it could only be because men had failed the faith. A purer and purer faith began to be called for. And in that quest for the Islamic absolute—the society of believers, where every action was instinct with worship—men lost sight of the political origins of their state.

To sustain its tottering economy, Pakistan now largely depends upon the export of its own citizens and upon the earnings they remit from abroad—notably from the Gulf oil states and from the infidel West. The many ironies implicit in the recourse to this economic expedient are captured by Naipaul in a passage which brilliantly encapsulates the whole Muslim dilemma of treating with a civilization held to be anathema by the true believer but whose liberties and institutions he is only too ready to exploit:

All the rejection of the West is contained within the assumption that there will always exist out there a living, creative civilization, oddly neutral, open to all to appeal to. Rejection, therefore, is not absolute rejection. . . . [So] the emigrants pour out from the land of the faith: thirty thousand Pakistanis shipped by the manpower-export experts to West Berlin alone, to claim the political asylum meant for the people of East Germany.
https://www.commentary.org/articles/j-b-kelly/among-the-believers-an-islamic-jou...
From as Granular review:

Islam, he claimed, had both enslaved and attempted to wipe out other cultures."It has had a calamitous effect on converted peoples. To be converted you have to destroy your past, destroy your history. You have to stamp on it, you have to say 'my ancestral culture does not exist, it doesn't matter'."

Sir Vidia claimed what he called "this abolition of the self demanded by Muslims was worse than the similar colonial abolition of identity. It is much, much worse in fact... You cannot just say you came out of nothing."  He argued that Pakistan was the living proof of the damage Islam could wreak.

"The story of Pakistan is a terror story actually. It started with a poet who thought that Muslims were so highly evolved that they should have a special place in India for themselves.  This wish to sift countries of unnecessary and irrelevant populations is terrible and this is exactly what happened in Pakistan."


This war has nothing to do with nuclear capacity or weaponry. That’s a minuscule side issue.



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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1094 - Nov 13th, 2023 at 9:25am
 
Bobby. wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 9:20am:
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 9:16am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 13th, 2023 at 9:08am:
You missed my point.

no one would know who fired it.

What would then be Israel's reply?

Israel would know who fired it and why. There's only one state that has been actively seeking the possession of nuclear weapons to change the power dynamics within the Middle East.




Iran wouldn't be stupid enough to fire it from their territory.
They would probably fire it from a ship near Yemen or Oman or some other place.
No one could pin it on Iran -
that's how Iran works with all its proxy wars.

Tel Aviv would be gone and the whole world would wonder who did it.

To date, only Iran has focussed itself on possessing nuclear weapons. If it was fired from Yemen or Oman, then Iran would be the instigator.
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