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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1110 - Nov 13^th, 2023 at 11:37am

Bobby. wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 9:49am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 9:34am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 9:30am:

Listen girls - please stop it.

Stay on topic.

What topic? Read back to the 1st post THIS MORNING for a clue. Look at which IDs turned up and defecated in this topic. ALL MONGS...MAINLY THE MANIC MAD METHRA MONG!

Ignore them.

I have ignored them. I’ve now allso reported them.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1111 - Nov 13^th, 2023 at 12:14pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 8:48am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 8:40am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 8:35am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 8:30am:

Iran and Saudi Arabia may be playing go-along-get-along over this, but it is a paper-thin alliance.

Shia and Sunni despise each other far more than either despises Jews - they've been at each other for 1400 years.

Saudi Arabia is seeing its future in alliance with Israel, as do most of the Arab states. Iran sees this as a threat to its ambitions of supremacy in the Middle East.

However, all of them are now aware that this situation could trigger uprisings, civil war and revolutions within their respective borders which could, and would, threaten or collapse their respective regimes' grip on power.

Totally and utterly untrue.

Unsubstantiated BS!

Invented delusions!

So you're not aware of the Shia-Sunni divide and its millennia-old, blood-fueled struggle for Islamic supremacy of doctrine, then.

Unbelievable! FD has rose colored glasses on when discussing Israel but not knowing and not quickly verifying the sunni–shia enmity but denying it is unbelievable. ANY reading of the Middle East confirms this.

What?

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1112 - Nov 13^th, 2023 at 12:16pm

mothra wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:33am:

Gordon wrote on Nov 12^th, 2023 at 11:51am:

tickleandrose wrote on Nov 12^th, 2023 at 11:47am:

Gordon wrote on Nov 12^th, 2023 at 11:43am:

Follow the money

https://nypost.com/2023/11/07/news/hamas-leaders-worth-11bn-live-luxury-lives-in...

Tell that to Israel. They are not bombing where the money is. They are bombing some of the most poorest people on the entire planet! These people have nothing left, except their lives.

Tell Hamas to not use their kids as human shields. Just get it out of your system and say you hate jews, the honesty will make you feel better.

You know, i actually find this argument more antisemitic than what's it's purporting to counter.

Criticising Israel's actions over the decades it has held power over the occupied territories has absolutely nothing to do with criticism of Judaism.

And what's worse is you know it. And it doesn't stop you.

You're just playing it like a nasty, loaded card, triggering us all with not too ancient horrors that are only relevant to the modern clime as to how they are repeating. But with all sorts of shoes on alternate feet.

What do you think of what this Jewish person has to say, Gordy? Acceptable to you?

Is it just a coincidence that the same people also like to spread anti-Jewish propaganda?

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1113 - Nov 13^th, 2023 at 12:35pm

lefties generally arent doing well in life

it comforts them to have minority groups who are failing, because they at least get to feel they arent at the bottom of the barrell

so they love keeping aborigines or palestinians or dole bludgers or trans "stuck'

they "pretend' they want to help them but by telling them they will only cherish them as victims, they keep their foot on the throat of minority groups and prevent their progress.

the jews are an inconvenient truth to the leftie and the leftie hates the jew because of this

jews are always a minority group, but every where they go they work hard, prosper and eventually are driving round town in a mercedes making the leftie seeth with green eyed envy.

as is always the case, the leftie is driven by hate and envy

what truly ugly people they really are

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 74702 Gender:	Re: The human cost in Gaza Reply #1114 - Nov 13^th, 2023 at 1:09pm freediver wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 12:16pm: Is it just a coincidence that the same people also like to spread anti-Jewish propaganda? As much of a coincidence as it is that those most defending is Israel are also islamaphobes
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1115 - Nov 13^th, 2023 at 1:10pm

John Smith wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 1:09pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 12:16pm:

Is it just a coincidence that the same people also like to spread anti-Jewish propaganda?

As much of a coincidence as it is that those most defending is Israel are also islamaphobes Roll Eyes

Most of the world is defending Israel John. Including a lot of neighbouring Muslim countries.

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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20624 Gordon Gender:	Re: The human cost in Gaza Reply #1116 - Nov 13^th, 2023 at 1:13pm This makes sense https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSNPNfFgf/
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1117 - Nov 13^th, 2023 at 1:14pm

The world opinion is turning against Israel. And this seemed like the general trend.

https://www.news.com.au/world/middle-east/israel-is-facing-a-collapse-in-support-for-its-ongoing-conflict/news-story/91b255412f027ac174ecf0b422505bb8

here are some quotes:

Doctors Without Borders has called the devastation “one of the worst humanitarian catastrophes that we have ever seen”.

And the International Committee of the Red Cross tweeted: “The human suffering is shocking. Thousands killed. People have limited access to food and water. Hospitals are near collapse. Hospital corridors are full of wounded and displaced. Destroyed infrastructure and homes will take years to rebuild. Even wars have limits.”

“Like all nations, though, Israel must be held to the laws and conventions that regulate warfare, as well as to a common sense of decency and proportion,” argues French.

This week, Spain’s social affairs minister Ione Belarra stood up and labelled Israel’s assault on the Gazan Palestinian population “a genocide”.

And Belgium’s Deputy Prime Minister Petra de Sutter publicly called for European Union sanctions to be imposed against the Netanyahu government.

But the United States has voted against a UN motion advocating a “humanitarian pause” in Gaza. Australia and the UK abstained. That’s despite all repeatedly advocating for a “humanitarian ceasefire”

Even India is turning sides.

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/india-votes-in-favour-of-resolution-that-condemns-israeli-settlement-activities-in-occupied-palestinian-territory/article67527409.ece

The resolution titled ‘Protection of civilians and upholding legal and humanitarian obligations’ was adopted with 120 nations voting in favour, 14 against and 45 abstentions.

It is very clear now. This is far beyond accidental / misfire against 'human' shields. How many of those 10000 killed are Hamas fighters? I am sure, alot of people here believe that these are just 'Hamas women', 'Hamas child', "Hamas prem babies.' But I have yet to see a concrete quota on Hamas fighters.

This killing has to stop!

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1118 - Nov 13^th, 2023 at 1:19pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 12:35pm:

lefties generally arent doing well in life

it comforts them to have minority groups who are failing, because they at least get to feel they arent at the bottom of the barrell

so they love keeping aborigines or palestinians or dole bludgers or trans "stuck'

they "pretend' they want to help them but by telling them they will only cherish them as victims, they keep their foot on the throat of minority groups and prevent their progress.

the jews are an inconvenient truth to the leftie and the leftie hates the jew because of this

jews are always a minority group, but every where they go they work hard, prosper and eventually are driving round town in a mercedes making the leftie seeth with green eyed envy.

as is always the case, the leftie is driven by hate and envy

what truly ugly people they really are

No, there are people on both sides of the politics who are appalled at what is happening right now. Indescriminate killing of innocents regardless of your political persuasion is WRONG.

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MeisterEckhart Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 12583 Gender:	Re: The human cost in Gaza Reply #1119 - Nov 13^th, 2023 at 1:22pm There's a difference between world governments' support for Israel and the mood of many citizens within. Having said that, only 14 countries voted against the UN proposal for a ceasefire in the Gaza-Israel war. Australia and 52 other countries abstained while 20 were absent.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 105380 Melbourne Gender:	Re: The human cost in Gaza Reply #1120 - Nov 13^th, 2023 at 3:34pm freediver wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 12:16pm: mothra wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 7:33am: Is it just a coincidence that the same people also like to spread anti-Jewish propaganda? dear FD, that woman is Jewish and I agree with her. Many Jews detest what Bibi is doing.
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1121 - Nov 13^th, 2023 at 4:14pm

tickleandrose wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 1:14pm:

The world opinion is turning against Israel. And this seemed like the general trend.

https://www.news.com.au/world/middle-east/israel-is-facing-a-collapse-in-support-for-its-ongoing-conflict/news-story/91b255412f027ac174ecf0b422505bb8

here are some quotes:

Doctors Without Borders has called the devastation “one of the worst humanitarian catastrophes that we have ever seen”.

And the International Committee of the Red Cross tweeted: “The human suffering is shocking. Thousands killed. People have limited access to food and water. Hospitals are near collapse. Hospital corridors are full of wounded and displaced. Destroyed infrastructure and homes will take years to rebuild. Even wars have limits.”

“Like all nations, though, Israel must be held to the laws and conventions that regulate warfare, as well as to a common sense of decency and proportion,” argues French.

This week, Spain’s social affairs minister Ione Belarra stood up and labelled Israel’s assault on the Gazan Palestinian population “a genocide”.

And Belgium’s Deputy Prime Minister Petra de Sutter publicly called for European Union sanctions to be imposed against the Netanyahu government.

But the United States has voted against a UN motion advocating a “humanitarian pause” in Gaza. Australia and the UK abstained. That’s despite all repeatedly advocating for a “humanitarian ceasefire”

Even India is turning sides.

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/india-votes-in-favour-of-resolution-that-condemns-israeli-settlement-activities-in-occupied-palestinian-territory/article67527409.ece

The resolution titled ‘Protection of civilians and upholding legal and humanitarian obligations’ was adopted with 120 nations voting in favour, 14 against and 45 abstentions.

It is very clear now. This is far beyond accidental / misfire against 'human' shields. How many of those 10000 killed are Hamas fighters? I am sure, alot of people here believe that these are just 'Hamas women', 'Hamas child', "Hamas prem babies.' But I have yet to see a concrete quota on Hamas fighters.

This killing has to stop!

ALL civilian deaths in Gaza are TOTALLY AVOIDABLE. NONE of it would have happened without 7 October. NONE.

Who is responsible for 7 October?

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1122 - Nov 13^th, 2023 at 4:16pm

Frank wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 4:14pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 1:14pm:

The world opinion is turning against Israel. And this seemed like the general trend.

https://www.news.com.au/world/middle-east/israel-is-facing-a-collapse-in-support-for-its-ongoing-conflict/news-story/91b255412f027ac174ecf0b422505bb8

here are some quotes:

Doctors Without Borders has called the devastation “one of the worst humanitarian catastrophes that we have ever seen”.

And the International Committee of the Red Cross tweeted: “The human suffering is shocking. Thousands killed. People have limited access to food and water. Hospitals are near collapse. Hospital corridors are full of wounded and displaced. Destroyed infrastructure and homes will take years to rebuild. Even wars have limits.”

“Like all nations, though, Israel must be held to the laws and conventions that regulate warfare, as well as to a common sense of decency and proportion,” argues French.

This week, Spain’s social affairs minister Ione Belarra stood up and labelled Israel’s assault on the Gazan Palestinian population “a genocide”.

And Belgium’s Deputy Prime Minister Petra de Sutter publicly called for European Union sanctions to be imposed against the Netanyahu government.

But the United States has voted against a UN motion advocating a “humanitarian pause” in Gaza. Australia and the UK abstained. That’s despite all repeatedly advocating for a “humanitarian ceasefire”

Even India is turning sides.

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/india-votes-in-favour-of-resolution-that-condemns-israeli-settlement-activities-in-occupied-palestinian-territory/article67527409.ece

The resolution titled ‘Protection of civilians and upholding legal and humanitarian obligations’ was adopted with 120 nations voting in favour, 14 against and 45 abstentions.

It is very clear now. This is far beyond accidental / misfire against 'human' shields. How many of those 10000 killed are Hamas fighters? I am sure, alot of people here believe that these are just 'Hamas women', 'Hamas child', "Hamas prem babies.' But I have yet to see a concrete quota on Hamas fighters.

This killing has to stop!

ALL civilian deaths in Gaza are TOTALLY AVOIDABLE.

Exactly.

Israel just needs to stop murdering the children - it's that simple.

The IDF - along with Hamas - are war criminals.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1123 - Nov 13^th, 2023 at 4:21pm

Frank wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 4:14pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 1:14pm:

The world opinion is turning against Israel. And this seemed like the general trend.

https://www.news.com.au/world/middle-east/israel-is-facing-a-collapse-in-support-for-its-ongoing-conflict/news-story/91b255412f027ac174ecf0b422505bb8

here are some quotes:

Doctors Without Borders has called the devastation “one of the worst humanitarian catastrophes that we have ever seen”.

And the International Committee of the Red Cross tweeted: “The human suffering is shocking. Thousands killed. People have limited access to food and water. Hospitals are near collapse. Hospital corridors are full of wounded and displaced. Destroyed infrastructure and homes will take years to rebuild. Even wars have limits.”

“Like all nations, though, Israel must be held to the laws and conventions that regulate warfare, as well as to a common sense of decency and proportion,” argues French.

This week, Spain’s social affairs minister Ione Belarra stood up and labelled Israel’s assault on the Gazan Palestinian population “a genocide”.

And Belgium’s Deputy Prime Minister Petra de Sutter publicly called for European Union sanctions to be imposed against the Netanyahu government.

But the United States has voted against a UN motion advocating a “humanitarian pause” in Gaza. Australia and the UK abstained. That’s despite all repeatedly advocating for a “humanitarian ceasefire”

Even India is turning sides.

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/india-votes-in-favour-of-resolution-that-condemns-israeli-settlement-activities-in-occupied-palestinian-territory/article67527409.ece

The resolution titled ‘Protection of civilians and upholding legal and humanitarian obligations’ was adopted with 120 nations voting in favour, 14 against and 45 abstentions.

It is very clear now. This is far beyond accidental / misfire against 'human' shields. How many of those 10000 killed are Hamas fighters? I am sure, alot of people here believe that these are just 'Hamas women', 'Hamas child', "Hamas prem babies.' But I have yet to see a concrete quota on Hamas fighters.

This killing has to stop!

ALL civilian deaths in Gaza are TOTALLY AVOIDABLE. NONE of it would have happened without 7 October. NONE.

Who is responsible for 7 October?

HAMAS is responsible for 7 October. Not the Palestinian civilians. Frank... new reports today indicates that Pre Mature babies have died in their incubators because of lack of power and medical supply in hospitals. May be Israel should just cut the charade and formally declare war on Palestinians.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 105380 Melbourne Gender:	Re: The human cost in Gaza Reply #1124 - Nov 13^th, 2023 at 4:23pm greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 13^th, 2023 at 4:16pm: Exactly. Israel just needs to stop murdering the children - it's that simple. The IDF - along with Hamas - are war criminals. They are all savages over there. I'm to the point where I can't watch it anymore - it distresses me too much.
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