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Reply #1260 - Nov 14th, 2023 at 11:25pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 10:13pm:
Sophia wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 10:04pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 7:46pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 6:59pm:
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aquascoot wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 6:52pm:
mothra wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 6:51pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 6:45pm:
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those women have every right to be ropeable



Yes I suspect they are disgusted by your lies.





what lies?

are you saying its possible to smuggle rockets into the hospital but they cant smuggle in some amoxil from egypt.

they would be disgusted with YOUR lies



You really don't have any idea what is needed to run a NICU, do you.



certainly not rockets


These the lies you're talking about?

How funny are baby's deaths to you, Horseboy?



are you talking about the baby  beheadings and babies burnt alive by hamas
(followed by western sydney arabs chanting gas the jews at the opera house )

do you mean those babies ?


You know the beheading thing was found to be bullshit right?  Cheesy


I already wrote this days ago as current info but seems to have bypassed some…
So to reiterate it and know that it’s so yesterdays false news.





Babies were beheaded and burnt pics and video on Telegram.

They had to DNA test babies to put the right head with the right body for funerals.

Israel doesn't publish pics out of respect for the dead. Hamas even uploaded these pics into peoples social media accounts after killing them.Islamic fundamentalists like to taunt families like they did with that German girl in claiming she was alive if you look closely she has a massive head injury in back of ute.

Lots of pics and videos of Hamas in action on Telegram don't look if you're squeamish.


I could take your word for it that you saw it. I’m on Telegram and couldn’t find what you said.

How about this debunking of it instead. Even Joe Biden said what you said how he saw it… but then retracted it saying he never did see any of that.


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Reply #1261 - Nov 14th, 2023 at 11:35pm
 
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Sophia wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 10:42am:
Oh… and one other thing….why nothing said about this?

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/10/lebanon-evidence-of-israels-unlaw...


The Israeli army fired artillery shells containing white phosphorus, an incendiary weapon, in military operations along Lebanon’s southern border between 10 and 16 October 2023, Amnesty International said today. One attack on the town of Dhayra on 16 October must be investigated as a war crime because it was an indiscriminate attack that injured at least nine civilians and damaged civilian objects, and was therefore unlawful, said the organization.
Cross-border hostilities in southern Lebanon have escalated significantly since 7 October. Israeli shelling in Lebanon has killed at least four civilians and 48 Hezbollah members so far. Hezbollah and other armed groups have also fired rockets at northern Israel, killing six Israeli soldiers and one Israeli civilian, according to the Israeli army. Amnesty International is investigating attacks by Hezbollah and other armed groups on northern Israel to determine whether they violated international humanitarian law.
“It is beyond horrific that the Israeli army has indiscriminately used white phosphorous in violation of international humanitarian law. The unlawful use of white phosphorus in Lebanon in the town of Dhayra on 16 October has seriously endangered the lives of civilians, many of whom were hospitalized and displaced, and whose homes and cars caught fire,” said Aya Majzoub, Deputy Regional Director for the Middle East and North Africa at Amnesty International.


Yep.

Hamas AND the IDF are committing war crimes.

I condemn them both, unconditionally.

Why won't conservatives condemn the atrocities committed by Israel?




because we dont need to virtue signal ?


Or because you support the Stalingrad solution?

Remember, the SM bounces out of bed with a plan.

You?



i proposed the lenningrad solution

seal off gaza and when the population have nothing to eat but a bowl of dirt, they will turn on hamas

this spares the lives of the glorious young IDF freedom fighters.

the stalingrad solution is rattenkreig
it plays into the hands of the defenders who know the battlefield and can conduct guerilla war.




And that would be a war crime.

Why are you advocating for war crimes?



are you saying hamas would be committing a war crime by surrendering their rockets and ending the seige?

i tend to agree



Of course Hamas should release the hostages, that too is a war crime. But i am referring to your advocacy of collective punishment by starving out the Palestinian people.

Which is already happening.

Did you know 6 babies have died at the al-Shifa hospital in the last three days because they ran out of medicine and fuel? I think you'll find that's awar crime.

Why are you advocating for war crimes?
 


those mothers need to catch the lift down to the basement of the hospital to the hamas command bunker and ask the hamas dudes to stop buying rockets and buy some baby medicine

those women have every right to be ropeable


Is this your Leningrad solution? Recruit the mothers? The Alpha stallion nudging his fillies into sure death?

Deplorable stuff.
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1262 - Nov 15th, 2023 at 12:27am
 
Sophia wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 11:25pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 10:13pm:
Sophia wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 10:04pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 7:46pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 6:59pm:
mothra wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 6:54pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 6:52pm:
mothra wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 6:51pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 6:45pm:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 6:43pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 6:38pm:
those women have every right to be ropeable



Yes I suspect they are disgusted by your lies.





what lies?

are you saying its possible to smuggle rockets into the hospital but they cant smuggle in some amoxil from egypt.

they would be disgusted with YOUR lies



You really don't have any idea what is needed to run a NICU, do you.



certainly not rockets


These the lies you're talking about?

How funny are baby's deaths to you, Horseboy?



are you talking about the baby  beheadings and babies burnt alive by hamas
(followed by western sydney arabs chanting gas the jews at the opera house )

do you mean those babies ?


You know the beheading thing was found to be bullshit right?  Cheesy


I already wrote this days ago as current info but seems to have bypassed some…
So to reiterate it and know that it’s so yesterdays false news.





Babies were beheaded and burnt pics and video on Telegram.

They had to DNA test babies to put the right head with the right body for funerals.

Israel doesn't publish pics out of respect for the dead. Hamas even uploaded these pics into peoples social media accounts after killing them.Islamic fundamentalists like to taunt families like they did with that German girl in claiming she was alive if you look closely she has a massive head injury in back of ute.

Lots of pics and videos of Hamas in action on Telegram don't look if you're squeamish.


I could take your word for it that you saw it. I’m on Telegram and couldn’t find what you said.

How about this debunking of it instead. Even Joe Biden said what you said how he saw it… but then retracted it saying he never did see any of that.




Aljazeera owned by Qatar which is where Hamas leaders live. Not the most reliable source they did get offside with Saudis,UAE, Bahrain,Egypt,Yemen etc for fake news they cut ties with Qatar.

I did see pics and video of beheaded babies with Israeli forensic people saying they had to DNA test heads and bodies to match them. Lots of burnt babies and people as well.

Search telegram with Hamas or hamas terrorist there was a link i was given i didn't save it i wasn't going to look at that again. I was there for a few hours.

It's not uncommon for Israelis to say they can't confirm something if they have not seen the evidence.

Joe wouldn't recall what he had for breakfast i think dementia has set in.


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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1263 - Nov 15th, 2023 at 12:44am
 
Hamas said this German lady was alive they were taking her to hospital.

They tormented her family by saying she was alive they like to play these cruel games.

If you look closely at her head in video you can see she has a bullet hole exit wound. She was dead.

https://twitter.com/MOSSADil/status/1724434696417767623
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Reply #1264 - Nov 15th, 2023 at 8:32am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 10:06pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 9:46pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 9:08pm:
Israel cannot negotiate with terrorists or give them what they want....Whilst HAMAS continue hold hostages and put their own people in harms way they cannot be trusted or reasoned with....Whilst Israel needs to avoid civilian casualties it is HAMAS who are putting their people in harms way by using Palastinians as human shields....If HAMAS succeed Israel will continue to be blackmailed by terrorists....HAMAS is the villian in this war!!!


They started out as the villain.

Now Israel is just as bad.

The IDF is targeting women & children: it's part of their genocidal plan.

Nobody should be making any excuses for Hamas OR Israel.

They are both guilty of horrendous war crimes.



Israel are targeting HAMAS who are fighting and hiding behind Palastinian civilians....Would you suggest Israel negotiate with terrorists who cannot be trusted and are indiferent to human life....HAMAS are using Palastinian civilians as fodder to further their cause and claim persecution....Claiming Israel has a genocidal plan when they were forced into this conflict and have no choice but to fight terrorists hiding behind civilians is simplistic and ignores HAMAS want civilian deaths to garner sympathy (It is working)....You cannot trust or negotiate with terrorists and HAMAS should stop using civilains as fodder for their cause!!!

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The White House says it has its own intelligence that Hamas has a command center under Al Shifa hospital in Gaza, backing up a key Israeli justification for its military moves on the facility.

"We have information that confirms that Hamas is using that particular hospital for a command and control mode" national security spokesperson John Kirby told reporters aboard Air Force One. "That is a war crime."

“They have stored weapons there and they’re prepared to respond to an Israeli military operation against that facility,” he added.
With AFP



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Reply #1265 - Nov 15th, 2023 at 8:50am
 
There's little doubt that the US has special forces on the ground in Gaza looking to extricate US citizen hostages from Hamas.

And you can bet they'll be using maximally brutal methods to extract information from captured Hamas fighters.

Expect targeted assassinations of Hamas leaders worldwide.
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Reply #1266 - Nov 15th, 2023 at 9:45am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 8:50am:
There's little doubt that the US has special forces on the ground in Gaza looking to extricate US citizen hostages from Hamas.

And you can bet they'll be using maximally brutal methods to extract information from captured Hamas fighters.

Expect targeted assassinations of Hamas leaders worldwide.


Excellent  I wouldn't expect anything less
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Reply #1267 - Nov 15th, 2023 at 9:55am
 
My prediction is that by 2025, Gaza will have ceased to exist even as a remotely viable entity.

I'd bet that world zeal towards ensuring terrorism must be seen not to pay will eclipse any and all humanitarian-evoked reserve.
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Reply #1268 - Nov 15th, 2023 at 10:04am
 
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 10:06pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 9:46pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 9:08pm:
Israel cannot negotiate with terrorists or give them what they want....Whilst HAMAS continue hold hostages and put their own people in harms way they cannot be trusted or reasoned with....Whilst Israel needs to avoid civilian casualties it is HAMAS who are putting their people in harms way by using Palastinians as human shields....If HAMAS succeed Israel will continue to be blackmailed by terrorists....HAMAS is the villian in this war!!!


They started out as the villain.

Now Israel is just as bad.

The IDF is targeting women & children: it's part of their genocidal plan.

Nobody should be making any excuses for Hamas OR Israel.

They are both guilty of horrendous war crimes.



Israel are targeting HAMAS ...



If this were true they are useless. They have about 90% kill ratio of innocents. The numbers show that a huge percentage of the time there are no Hamas people involved at the targeted area. Most of the people they want to target and are legitimate targets are likely not even in the country.

Israel are deliberately targeting Palestinian children, there is simply no possible argument to say they are not.

Hamas committed atrocities and deserve to be punished the Israeli government have done the same. The Israeli people are good people as are the Palestinian people.
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Reply #1269 - Nov 15th, 2023 at 10:09am
 
MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 9:55am:
My prediction is that by 2025, Gaza will have ceased to exist even as a remotely viable entity.

I'd bet that world zeal towards ensuring terrorism must be seen not to pay will eclipse any and all humanitarian-evoked reserve.


Yet when people call this what you are saying attempted Genocide everyone argues, I suspect you included.
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Reply #1270 - Nov 15th, 2023 at 10:45am
 
Dnarever wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 10:04am:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 10:06pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 9:46pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 9:08pm:
Israel cannot negotiate with terrorists or give them what they want....Whilst HAMAS continue hold hostages and put their own people in harms way they cannot be trusted or reasoned with....Whilst Israel needs to avoid civilian casualties it is HAMAS who are putting their people in harms way by using Palastinians as human shields....If HAMAS succeed Israel will continue to be blackmailed by terrorists....HAMAS is the villian in this war!!!


They started out as the villain.

Now Israel is just as bad.

The IDF is targeting women & children: it's part of their genocidal plan.

Nobody should be making any excuses for Hamas OR Israel.

They are both guilty of horrendous war crimes.



Israel are targeting HAMAS ...



If this were true they are useless. They have about 90% kill ratio of innocents. The numbers show that a huge percentage of the time there are no Hamas people involved at the targeted area. Most of the people they want to target and are legitimate targets are likely not even in the country.

Israel are deliberately targeting Palestinian children, there is simply no possible argument to say they are not.

Hamas committed atrocities and deserve to be punished the Israeli government have done the same. The Israeli people are good people as are the Palestinian people.


Correct.

Excellent post   Smiley
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Reply #1271 - Nov 15th, 2023 at 10:57am
 
Frank wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 8:32am:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 10:06pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 9:46pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 9:08pm:
Israel cannot negotiate with terrorists or give them what they want....Whilst HAMAS continue hold hostages and put their own people in harms way they cannot be trusted or reasoned with....Whilst Israel needs to avoid civilian casualties it is HAMAS who are putting their people in harms way by using Palastinians as human shields....If HAMAS succeed Israel will continue to be blackmailed by terrorists....HAMAS is the villian in this war!!!


They started out as the villain.

Now Israel is just as bad.

The IDF is targeting women & children: it's part of their genocidal plan.

Nobody should be making any excuses for Hamas OR Israel.

They are both guilty of horrendous war crimes.



Israel are targeting HAMAS who are fighting and hiding behind Palastinian civilians....Would you suggest Israel negotiate with terrorists who cannot be trusted and are indiferent to human life....HAMAS are using Palastinian civilians as fodder to further their cause and claim persecution....Claiming Israel has a genocidal plan when they were forced into this conflict and have no choice but to fight terrorists hiding behind civilians is simplistic and ignores HAMAS want civilian deaths to garner sympathy (It is working)....You cannot trust or negotiate with terrorists and HAMAS should stop using civilains as fodder for their cause!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes




The White House says it has its own intelligence that Hamas has a command center under Al Shifa hospital in Gaza, backing up a key Israeli justification for its military moves on the facility.

"We have information that confirms that Hamas is using that particular hospital for a command and control mode" national security spokesperson John Kirby told reporters aboard Air Force One. "That is a war crime."

“They have stored weapons there and they’re prepared to respond to an Israeli military operation against that facility,” he added.
With AFP







Hamas Says All The AK-47s Found In Gaza Hospital Were Strictly For Medicinal Use

GAZA — As reports began to come out that Israeli Defense Forces had discovered a Hamas weapons depot hidden in a Gaza children's hospital, a spokesman for Hamas was adamant that all of the AK-47s found in the hospital were for medicinal use only.

"These were clearly medical machine guns," said Ali Mohammed Al Mohammed. "By confiscating these weapons, they are depriving sick children of the life-saving medical care that these rifles, rockets, and bombs provide. Only people who are truly heartless would take these weapons away from children who are ill. Death to Israel, thank you."

As Israel continues to receive a mixture of support and criticism for its ongoing offensive against Hamas in Gaza, the discovery of a cache of weapons in a children's hospital was a sobering reminder of what the IDF is up against. When pressed on the matter, the Hamas spokesman refused to admit the weapons stockpile was for use in the war. "Don't be ridiculous," Mohammed said. "The weapons were clearly labeled ‘Surgical AK-47s and Explosives.'"

"Why would we hide our weapons in a building with innocent children? That's ridiculous! We only allow essential, life-saving therapeutic weapons in the children's hospital. We're not monsters. Glory to the blood-soaked martyrs. Thank you."

At publishing time, Hamas had sent a formal request to have all of the weapons returned to them immediately. "We really need them back," Mohammed said. "And by ‘we,' I mean the sick children, of course. Yes, not referring to ourselves, the vengeful mujahideen. Totally the sick children."


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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1272 - Nov 15th, 2023 at 10:58am
 
Frank wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 8:32am:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 10:06pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 9:46pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 9:08pm:
Israel cannot negotiate with terrorists or give them what they want....Whilst HAMAS continue hold hostages and put their own people in harms way they cannot be trusted or reasoned with....Whilst Israel needs to avoid civilian casualties it is HAMAS who are putting their people in harms way by using Palastinians as human shields....If HAMAS succeed Israel will continue to be blackmailed by terrorists....HAMAS is the villian in this war!!!


They started out as the villain.

Now Israel is just as bad.

The IDF is targeting women & children: it's part of their genocidal plan.

Nobody should be making any excuses for Hamas OR Israel.

They are both guilty of horrendous war crimes.



Israel are targeting HAMAS who are fighting and hiding behind Palastinian civilians....Would you suggest Israel negotiate with terrorists who cannot be trusted and are indiferent to human life....HAMAS are using Palastinian civilians as fodder to further their cause and claim persecution....Claiming Israel has a genocidal plan when they were forced into this conflict and have no choice but to fight terrorists hiding behind civilians is simplistic and ignores HAMAS want civilian deaths to garner sympathy (It is working)....You cannot trust or negotiate with terrorists and HAMAS should stop using civilains as fodder for their cause!!!

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes




The White House says it has its own intelligence that Hamas has a command center under Al Shifa hospital in Gaza, backing up a key Israeli justification for its military moves on the facility.

"We have information that confirms that Hamas is using that particular hospital for a command and control mode" national security spokesperson John Kirby told reporters aboard Air Force One. "That is a war crime."

“They have stored weapons there and they’re prepared to respond to an Israeli military operation against that facility,” he added.
With AFP







Hamas Says All The AK-47s Found In Gaza Hospital Were Strictly For Medicinal Use

GAZA — As reports began to come out that Israeli Defense Forces had discovered a Hamas weapons depot hidden in a Gaza children's hospital, a spokesman for Hamas was adamant that all of the AK-47s found in the hospital were for medicinal use only.

"These were clearly medical machine guns," said Ali Mohammed Al Mohammed. "By confiscating these weapons, they are depriving sick children of the life-saving medical care that these rifles, rockets, and bombs provide. Only people who are truly heartless would take these weapons away from children who are ill. Death to Israel, thank you."

As Israel continues to receive a mixture of support and criticism for its ongoing offensive against Hamas in Gaza, the discovery of a cache of weapons in a children's hospital was a sobering reminder of what the IDF is up against. When pressed on the matter, the Hamas spokesman refused to admit the weapons stockpile was for use in the war. "Don't be ridiculous," Mohammed said. "The weapons were clearly labeled ‘Surgical AK-47s and Explosives.'"

"Why would we hide our weapons in a building with innocent children? That's ridiculous! We only allow essential, life-saving therapeutic weapons in the children's hospital. We're not monsters. Glory to the blood-soaked martyrs. Thank you."

At publishing time, Hamas had sent a formal request to have all of the weapons returned to them immediately. "We really need them back," Mohammed said. "And by ‘we,' I mean the sick children, of course. Yes, not referring to ourselves, the vengeful mujahideen. Totally the sick children."


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Reply #1273 - Nov 15th, 2023 at 11:37am
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 10:13pm:
Sophia wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 10:04pm:
John Smith wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 7:46pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 6:59pm:
mothra wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 6:54pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 6:52pm:
mothra wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 6:51pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 6:45pm:
Dnarever wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 6:43pm:
aquascoot wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 6:38pm:
those women have every right to be ropeable



Yes I suspect they are disgusted by your lies.





what lies?

are you saying its possible to smuggle rockets into the hospital but they cant smuggle in some amoxil from egypt.

they would be disgusted with YOUR lies



You really don't have any idea what is needed to run a NICU, do you.



certainly not rockets


These the lies you're talking about?

How funny are baby's deaths to you, Horseboy?



are you talking about the baby  beheadings and babies burnt alive by hamas
(followed by western sydney arabs chanting gas the jews at the opera house )

do you mean those babies ?


You know the beheading thing was found to be bullshit right?  Cheesy


I already wrote this days ago as current info but seems to have bypassed some…
So to reiterate it and know that it’s so yesterdays false news.





Babies were beheaded and burnt pics and video on Telegram.

They had to DNA test babies to put the right head with the right body for funerals.

Israel doesn't publish pics out of respect for the dead. Hamas even uploaded these pics into peoples social media accounts after killing them.Islamic fundamentalists like to taunt families like they did with that German girl in claiming she was alive if you look closely she has a massive head injury in back of ute.

Lots of pics and videos of Hamas in action on Telegram don't look if you're squeamish.


Rubbish .. both the IDF and Mossad have denied any knowledge of baby's beheadings.
You're a fool

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2023/10/31/post-falsely-claims-new...

https://www.factcheck.org/2023/10/what-we-know-about-three-widespread-israel-ham...
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Reply #1274 - Nov 15th, 2023 at 1:26pm
 
Frank wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 10:58am:
Frank wrote on Nov 15th, 2023 at 8:32am:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 10:06pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 9:46pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Nov 14th, 2023 at 9:08pm:
Israel cannot negotiate with terrorists or give them what they want....Whilst HAMAS continue hold hostages and put their own people in harms way they cannot be trusted or reasoned with....Whilst Israel needs to avoid civilian casualties it is HAMAS who are putting their people in harms way by using Palastinians as human shields....If HAMAS succeed Israel will continue to be blackmailed by terrorists....HAMAS is the villian in this war!!!


They started out as the villain.

Now Israel is just as bad.

The IDF is targeting women & children: it's part of their genocidal plan.

Nobody should be making any excuses for Hamas OR Israel.

They are both guilty of horrendous war crimes.



Israel are targeting HAMAS who are fighting and hiding behind Palastinian civilians....Would you suggest Israel negotiate with terrorists who cannot be trusted and are indiferent to human life....HAMAS are using Palastinian civilians as fodder to further their cause and claim persecution....Claiming Israel has a genocidal plan when they were forced into this conflict and have no choice but to fight terrorists hiding behind civilians is simplistic and ignores HAMAS want civilian deaths to garner sympathy (It is working)....You cannot trust or negotiate with terrorists and HAMAS should stop using civilains as fodder for their cause!!!

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The White House says it has its own intelligence that Hamas has a command center under Al Shifa hospital in Gaza, backing up a key Israeli justification for its military moves on the facility.

"We have information that confirms that Hamas is using that particular hospital for a command and control mode" national security spokesperson John Kirby told reporters aboard Air Force One. "That is a war crime."

“They have stored weapons there and they’re prepared to respond to an Israeli military operation against that facility,” he added.
With AFP







Hamas Says All The AK-47s Found In Gaza Hospital Were Strictly For Medicinal Use

GAZA — As reports began to come out that Israeli Defense Forces had discovered a Hamas weapons depot hidden in a Gaza children's hospital, a spokesman for Hamas was adamant that all of the AK-47s found in the hospital were for medicinal use only.

"These were clearly medical machine guns," said Ali Mohammed Al Mohammed. "By confiscating these weapons, they are depriving sick children of the life-saving medical care that these rifles, rockets, and bombs provide. Only people who are truly heartless would take these weapons away from children who are ill. Death to Israel, thank you."

As Israel continues to receive a mixture of support and criticism for its ongoing offensive against Hamas in Gaza, the discovery of a cache of weapons in a children's hospital was a sobering reminder of what the IDF is up against. When pressed on the matter, the Hamas spokesman refused to admit the weapons stockpile was for use in the war. "Don't be ridiculous," Mohammed said. "The weapons were clearly labeled ‘Surgical AK-47s and Explosives.'"

"Why would we hide our weapons in a building with innocent children? That's ridiculous! We only allow essential, life-saving therapeutic weapons in the children's hospital. We're not monsters. Glory to the blood-soaked martyrs. Thank you."

At publishing time, Hamas had sent a formal request to have all of the weapons returned to them immediately. "We really need them back," Mohammed said. "And by ‘we,' I mean the sick children, of course. Yes, not referring to ourselves, the vengeful mujahideen. Totally the sick children."


Not satire.


I’ve finished reading up on that plus more. It’s pretty horrific and unbelievable that we have idiots on this forum attempting to play down the vile crimes being committed by Hamas.

Israeli soldiers wear body cam (like our cops) and there are MANY soldiers who’s footage shows the visual images of beheaded people including children. Also there’s footage taken from the body cam of a Hamas soldier that’s now in the hands of the Israeli govt. In that footage the soldier is openly bragging about how he has killed 10 civilians in the name of Allah and he’s being urged to kill many more by his family in order to please Allah. Murder pleases Allah.

All very disturbing IF you have a conscience. Not many people these days have a conscience.

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