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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1380 - Nov 16^th, 2023 at 10:46am

aquascoot wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 10:06am:

mothra wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 9:31am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 9:21am:

mothra wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 9:10am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 9:08am:

Larry is likely autistic and so thinks he has a much better understanding, has more knowledge than he actually does.

Explains a lot of his posts.

That's not how autism works. Please don't insult autistic people by using them as a blanket for other people's bad behaviour.

That's exactly how autism can present.

Autistics do not develop a sound theory of mind and often have great difficulty in attributing ideas that come to them as ideas they have learnt from others and usually attribute those ideas solely to themselves as completely their own.

Temple Grandin highlights this when discussing her personal experiences with autism. It was also highlighted in the eponymous biopic, 'Temple Grandin'.

You know very little about autism. You've evidenced that.

I'll leave you with a quote, and leave you i will certainly:

"If you've met one person with autism, then you've met one person with autism".

That is most certainly true
Autistics are all unique

Lefty intellectual morons are all cut from the same cloth however
If you have met one you have met them all

If we look at the postings of yourself the pecker the Smith the DNA
They are word perfect identical
You have all been infected by the same genotype mind virus
If all four of you comment on something the superior man only has to read one and he has read them all
Your ideological similarity is part of some lefty purity test
Which proves that lefty intellectualism is more of a religion than an intellectual pursuit

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The doctor is in, diagnosing superbly.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1381 - Nov 16^th, 2023 at 10:47am

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 10:21am:

Thank you Mothra. (I can’t believe I’ve just thanked you but there you are)

Regarding the human cost of war ....does ANYONE know how it’s usually calculated?

I do. I’m hoping others can jump in and tell us what they know. And even if you don’t know ... google it/research it. Post back what you find. Let’s discuss this topic properly. It’s one of the most important topics on OzPol because it will give us all some insight into how far humanity has REGRESSED. 😩😔🥺

Dear Lisa,
I think I already covered that - again

Murder of kids?

but if the Jews or Muslims do it then it's God's wishes -

but Christians are bad too -
the bombing of London and Germany in WW2 was God's work -
done by Christians and so was Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

I suppose if the Palestinians murder your kids you are allowed to murder their kids?

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1382 - Nov 16^th, 2023 at 10:47am

aquascoot wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 10:06am:

mothra wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 9:31am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 9:21am:

mothra wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 9:10am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 9:08am:

Larry is likely autistic and so thinks he has a much better understanding, has more knowledge than he actually does.

Explains a lot of his posts.

That's not how autism works. Please don't insult autistic people by using them as a blanket for other people's bad behaviour.

That's exactly how autism can present.

Autistics do not develop a sound theory of mind and often have great difficulty in attributing ideas that come to them as ideas they have learnt from others and usually attribute those ideas solely to themselves as completely their own.

Temple Grandin highlights this when discussing her personal experiences with autism. It was also highlighted in the eponymous biopic, 'Temple Grandin'.

You know very little about autism. You've evidenced that.

I'll leave you with a quote, and leave you i will certainly:

"If you've met one person with autism, then you've met one person with autism".

That is most certainly true
Autistics are all unique

Lefty intellectual morons are all cut from the same cloth however
If you have met one you have met them all

If we look at the postings of yourself the pecker the Smith the DNA
They are word perfect identical
You have all been infected by the same genotype mind virus
If all four of you comment on something the superior man only has to read one and he has read them all
Your ideological similarity is part of some lefty purity test
Which proves that lefty intellectualism is more of a religion than an intellectual pursuit

👍

The doctor is in, diagnosing superbly.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1383 - Nov 16^th, 2023 at 10:47am

Frank wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 10:46am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 10:06am:

mothra wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 9:31am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 9:21am:

mothra wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 9:10am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 9:08am:

Larry is likely autistic and so thinks he has a much better understanding, has more knowledge than he actually does.

Explains a lot of his posts.

That's not how autism works. Please don't insult autistic people by using them as a blanket for other people's bad behaviour.

That's exactly how autism can present.

Autistics do not develop a sound theory of mind and often have great difficulty in attributing ideas that come to them as ideas they have learnt from others and usually attribute those ideas solely to themselves as completely their own.

Temple Grandin highlights this when discussing her personal experiences with autism. It was also highlighted in the eponymous biopic, 'Temple Grandin'.

You know very little about autism. You've evidenced that.

I'll leave you with a quote, and leave you i will certainly:

"If you've met one person with autism, then you've met one person with autism".

That is most certainly true
Autistics are all unique

Lefty intellectual morons are all cut from the same cloth however
If you have met one you have met them all

If we look at the postings of yourself the pecker the Smith the DNA
They are word perfect identical
You have all been infected by the same genotype mind virus
If all four of you comment on something the superior man only has to read one and he has read them all
Your ideological similarity is part of some lefty purity test
Which proves that lefty intellectualism is more of a religion than an intellectual pursuit

👍

The doctor is in, diagnosing superbly.

Bahahahahahaha!

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1384 - Nov 16^th, 2023 at 11:18am

The human cost in Gaza

A whole population kept in refugee camps since 1948, whole generations have spent their life in these refugee camps.

An audacious, dreadful attack, plotted, staged and executed without Mossad knowing, apparently.

Now the Israelis attack Gaza, cutting of electricity and power. Previous to that Gaza fishing boats had been restricted to within 8 miles off the shore, not enough fish get caught there, protein insufficiency.

Children on both sides killed ruthlessly.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1385 - Nov 16^th, 2023 at 11:30am

Bobby. wrote on Nov 15^th, 2023 at 10:18pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 15^th, 2023 at 10:15pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 15^th, 2023 at 9:51pm:

Jasin wrote on Nov 15^th, 2023 at 4:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 15^th, 2023 at 3:56pm:

Conservatives still getting their jollies over the fact that Israel is slaughtering new-born babies.

Sick, sick, sick.

If you can't cope with Warfare.
Beyond just virtual signalling yourself.
Then stay out of such Topics.

Nagasaki and Hiroshima ring a bell to you regarding your beloved 'democracy'?

Murder of kids?

but if the Jews or Muslims do it then it's God's wishes -

but Christians are bad too -
the bombing of London and Germany in WW2 was God's work -
done by Christians and so was Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

I suppose if the Palestinians murder your kids you are allowed to murder their kids?

Hamas killed about 600 Israel have killed over 13,000

No -
Hamas killed about 1,200 Israelis and Israel
has killed about 11,500 Palestinians plus there are people missing under rubble.

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Hamas killed about 1,200 Israelis

Yes about 600 combatants and 600 innocents. about 50%

Your other number is several days out of date. More bombs = more innocent victims. Now over 13,000. About 6,000 children.

The civilian to Hamas death rate is over 90%.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1386 - Nov 16^th, 2023 at 11:35am

Dnarever wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 11:30am:

Yes about 600 combatants and 600 innocents. about 50%

Your other number is several days out of date. More bombs = more innocent victims. Now over 13,000. About 6,000 children.

The civilian to Hamas death rate is over 90%.

From what I read - on Oct 7th about 1,500 Hamas terrorists crossed the border
to do all their murdering and almost all of those 1,500 were killed by the IDF.

That wasn't enough for Israel.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1388 - Nov 16^th, 2023 at 12:05pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 11:18am:

The human cost in Gaza

A whole population kept in refugee camps since 1948, whole generations have spent their life in these refugee camps.

An audacious, dreadful attack, plotted, staged and executed without Mossad knowing, apparently.

Now the Israelis attack Gaza, cutting of electricity and power. Previous to that Gaza fishing boats had been restricted to within 8 miles off the shore, not enough fish get caught there, protein insufficiency.

Children on both sides killed ruthlessly.

why on earth did arafat refuse to sign bill clintons deal that would have given them their own state?

no one to blame but themselves

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1389 - Nov 16^th, 2023 at 12:18pm

mothra wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 10:47am:

Frank wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 10:46am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 10:06am:

mothra wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 9:31am:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 9:21am:

mothra wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 9:10am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 9:08am:

Larry is likely autistic and so thinks he has a much better understanding, has more knowledge than he actually does.

Explains a lot of his posts.

That's not how autism works. Please don't insult autistic people by using them as a blanket for other people's bad behaviour.

That's exactly how autism can present.

Autistics do not develop a sound theory of mind and often have great difficulty in attributing ideas that come to them as ideas they have learnt from others and usually attribute those ideas solely to themselves as completely their own.

Temple Grandin highlights this when discussing her personal experiences with autism. It was also highlighted in the eponymous biopic, 'Temple Grandin'.

You know very little about autism. You've evidenced that.

I'll leave you with a quote, and leave you i will certainly:

"If you've met one person with autism, then you've met one person with autism".

That is most certainly true
Autistics are all unique

Lefty intellectual morons are all cut from the same cloth however
If you have met one you have met them all

If we look at the postings of yourself the pecker the Smith the DNA
They are word perfect identical
You have all been infected by the same genotype mind virus
If all four of you comment on something the superior man only has to read one and he has read them all
Your ideological similarity is part of some lefty purity test
Which proves that lefty intellectualism is more of a religion than an intellectual pursuit

👍

The doctor is in, diagnosing superbly.

Bahahahahahaha!

no its a religion with sacred texts and ex-communication for anyone who thinks for themselves.

frank and myself and gordon and meister and valkie and boris disagree all the time.

i like indian and chinese migrants for example.
i like the church
i dont think gordon probably does
frank might have one view on abortion, valkie might have another
some might like guns and see howards by back as bad, some see it as good
some want trade deals with china
some want us to cut all ties.
some watch the ABC, some dont some like universities, some dont
some like the ukraine , some dont
some think alex jones should be behind bars, some find him an intersting voice
some reqad jordans book, some think its rubbish

individual thinkers.

the left
you all have exactly the same positions on everything

you have to support trans
you have to support green energy
you have to support assylum seekers and palestinians
you have to support lockdowns and vaccine mandates
you have to support getting rid of guns
you have to support the NDIS
you have to support unions
you have to support royal commissions into deaths in curody and the gender paygap
you have to support ukraine
you have to hate everything trump did
you have to love biden and greta and sarah hansen young
you have to hate peterson and rogan and fox news and pauline hansen

you are so boring because you are members of a religion, total conformists, seeking the safety of the herd
there is not one point of differentiation in the lot
step outside and offer a nuanced position on anything and the fellow cult members will ex communicate you

gutless cowards basicly
totally spineless sheep

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1390 - Nov 16^th, 2023 at 12:41pm

aquascoot wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 12:18pm:

individual thinkers.

This is a perspective that has suffered from metaphorical and analogical misrepresentation, particularly when it's associated with centrism.

For example, individual thinkers are often referred to as those who mask their ambivalence (or centrism) - their 'sitting on the fence'.

It is much easier to adopt dogmatic right-/left-wing doctrine, as at least you're guaranteed support from the respective mob.

Taking a centrist or unbiased position on anything exposes the individual to criticism from all sides of the dogmatic divide.

As for dogmatic political views being a religion, a religious quote augments this claim: "I know your works: you are neither cold nor hot. Would that you were either cold or hot! So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will vomit you out of my mouth." Revelation 3:15-16 - as spiteful today as it was when it was written 1800+ years ago.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1391 - Nov 16^th, 2023 at 12:52pm

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 12:41pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 12:18pm:

individual thinkers.

This is a perspective that has suffered from metaphorical and analogical misrepresentation, particularly when it's associated with centrism.

For example, individual thinkers are often referred to as those who mask their ambivalence (or centrism) - their 'sitting on the fence'.

It is much easier to adopt dogmatic right-/left-wing doctrine, as at least you're guaranteed support from the respective mob.

Taking a centrist or unbiased position on anything exposes the individual to criticism from all sides of the dogmatic divide.

As for dogmatic political views being a religion, a religious quote augments this claim: "I know your works: you are neither cold nor hot. Would that you were either cold or hot! So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will vomit you out of my mouth." Revelation 3:15-16 - as spiteful today as it was when it was written 1800+ years ago.

Mister Moron

If it’s not racism or misogyny it’s the blatant misuse and abuse of Scripture which typifies and recurringly exposes your disturbed sense of reality and uncontrollable rage and anger (against all you probably once stood for).

The above verse you saw fit to post is absolutely AND totally out of context and has NOTHING to do with this topic. Or politics for that matter. Stick with Spinoza. It’s safer (in your case).

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1392 - Nov 16^th, 2023 at 12:57pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 10:47am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 10:21am:

Thank you Mothra. (I can’t believe I’ve just thanked you but there you are)

Regarding the human cost of war ....does ANYONE know how it’s usually calculated?

I do. I’m hoping others can jump in and tell us what they know. And even if you don’t know ... google it/research it. Post back what you find. Let’s discuss this topic properly. It’s one of the most important topics on OzPol because it will give us all some insight into how far humanity has REGRESSED. 😩😔🥺

Dear Lisa,
I think I already covered that - again

Murder of kids?

but if the Jews or Muslims do it then it's God's wishes -

but Christians are bad too -
the bombing of London and Germany in WW2 was God's work -
done by Christians and so was Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

I suppose if the Palestinians murder your kids you are allowed to murder their kids?

No Bobby ...you haven’t covered HOW the human cost is calculated. You’ve merely posted up a few unconfirmed stats which both sides of this particular war don’t accept.

The human cost of war involves much more than just those figures.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1393 - Nov 16^th, 2023 at 1:00pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 12:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 10:47am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 10:21am:

Thank you Mothra. (I can’t believe I’ve just thanked you but there you are)

Regarding the human cost of war ....does ANYONE know how it’s usually calculated?

I do. I’m hoping others can jump in and tell us what they know. And even if you don’t know ... google it/research it. Post back what you find. Let’s discuss this topic properly. It’s one of the most important topics on OzPol because it will give us all some insight into how far humanity has REGRESSED. 😩😔🥺

Dear Lisa,
I think I already covered that - again

Murder of kids?

but if the Jews or Muslims do it then it's God's wishes -

but Christians are bad too -
the bombing of London and Germany in WW2 was God's work -
done by Christians and so was Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

I suppose if the Palestinians murder your kids you are allowed to murder their kids?

No Bobby ...you haven’t covered HOW the human cost is calculated. You’ve merely posted up a few unconfirmed stats which both sides of this particular war don’t accept.

The human cost of war involves much more than just those figures.

What else can I do?
I can only go on the numbers published on CNN etc.

Since 1948 both sides have been murdering each other.
The hatred is rusted on and is there for generations.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1394 - Nov 16^th, 2023 at 1:03pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 12:52pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 12:41pm:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 12:18pm:

individual thinkers.

This is a perspective that has suffered from metaphorical and analogical misrepresentation, particularly when it's associated with centrism.

For example, individual thinkers are often referred to as those who mask their ambivalence (or centrism) - their 'sitting on the fence'.

It is much easier to adopt dogmatic right-/left-wing doctrine, as at least you're guaranteed support from the respective mob.

Taking a centrist or unbiased position on anything exposes the individual to criticism from all sides of the dogmatic divide.

As for dogmatic political views being a religion, a religious quote augments this claim: "I know your works: you are neither cold nor hot. Would that you were either cold or hot! So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will vomit you out of my mouth." Revelation 3:15-16 - as spiteful today as it was when it was written 1800+ years ago.

Mister Moron

If it’s not racism or misogyny it’s the blatant misuse and abuse of Scripture which typifies and recurringly exposes your disturbed sense of reality and uncontrollable rage and anger (against all you probably once stood for).

The above verse you saw fit to post is absolutely AND totally out of context and has NOTHING to do with this topic. Or politics for that matter. Stick with Spinoza. It’s safer (in your case).

Quoting scripture is not misuse and abuse that can be compared.

In a secular, liberal democracy anyone can say what they like about religious scripture - there is no proscription against it.

Typically it's the mentally unstable when they find religion - usually prior to psychiatric care and medication - who confuse law in a secular, liberal democracy with religious observance and reverence... and also law with post office policy, apparently.

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