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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1470 - Nov 17^th, 2023 at 8:03am

aquascoot wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 6:20pm:

i think thats what really confuses the left.

they think the craziness must be because they have been so oppressed by their oppressors they just lose it

but they tell you exactly why they do it if you listen

and, yes, they really do think that kids dying is not a problem as they are innocent and will go striaght to paradise

it really is a death cult

the west dont understand it

the west called the priveledged engineers and doctors who flew into the twin towers either

1 cowards
or
2 acting out of rage at their oppression

they were neither
certainly not cowards and neither are hamas.
you try and fly a plane into a fiery death, that takes courage and commitment

they are members of a death cult, pure and simple, commited, brave, having the courage of their convictions
its actually admirable if it wasnt crazy Lips Sealed

if they get their hands on a nuke, they will detonate it

nothing more certain

and that would even go for some muslims living in western sydney

they see the leftie intellectual as an infidel fool.
they would incincerate him without blinking an eye

Or as the famous African poet, WB Yates put it:

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1471 - Nov 17^th, 2023 at 8:57am

freediver wrote on Nov 17^th, 2023 at 6:51am:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 10:02pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 9:51pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 9:49pm:

The IDF have a long history of propaganda and lies making it difficult to work out what is true and not.

Name a nation-state that doesn't do that.

None have been caught out as consistently as the IDF.

If you consider say the US and UK in Iraq - They really did expect to find WMD's. They bought into their own BS. The IDF knew it was a lie from the start.

The only thing that is consistent is people's gullibility when it comes to made up stories about Jews.

The Jewish people on the whole are very good people. The dishonest long term reputation of the IDF is well known and fully justified as is this current Israeli governments extremism.

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Jovial Monk Gold Member Online Dogs not cats! Posts: 47269 Gender:	Re: The human cost in Gaza Reply #1472 - Nov 17^th, 2023 at 8:59am Zionism is the problem!
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1473 - Nov 17^th, 2023 at 9:12am

Frank wrote on Nov 17^th, 2023 at 8:03am:

aquascoot wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 6:20pm:

i think thats what really confuses the left.

they think the craziness must be because they have been so oppressed by their oppressors they just lose it

but they tell you exactly why they do it if you listen

and, yes, they really do think that kids dying is not a problem as they are innocent and will go striaght to paradise

it really is a death cult

the west dont understand it

the west called the priveledged engineers and doctors who flew into the twin towers either

1 cowards
or
2 acting out of rage at their oppression

they were neither
certainly not cowards and neither are hamas.
you try and fly a plane into a fiery death, that takes courage and commitment

they are members of a death cult, pure and simple, commited, brave, having the courage of their convictions
its actually admirable if it wasnt crazy Lips Sealed

if they get their hands on a nuke, they will detonate it

nothing more certain

and that would even go for some muslims living in western sydney

they see the leftie intellectual as an infidel fool.
they would incincerate him without blinking an eye

Or as the famous African poet, WB Yates put it:

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Aqua and Furta

Who has the red nose and who is using the water squirting flower today ?

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 58622 Here Gender:	Re: The human cost in Gaza Reply #1474 - Nov 17^th, 2023 at 9:14am Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 17^th, 2023 at 8:59am: Zionism is the problem! Maybe part of the problem maybe not. Don't see the problem as that simple or at all one sided.
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1475 - Nov 17^th, 2023 at 9:25am

Dnarever wrote on Nov 17^th, 2023 at 8:57am:

freediver wrote on Nov 17^th, 2023 at 6:51am:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 10:02pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 9:51pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 9:49pm:

The IDF have a long history of propaganda and lies making it difficult to work out what is true and not.

Name a nation-state that doesn't do that.

None have been caught out as consistently as the IDF.

If you consider say the US and UK in Iraq - They really did expect to find WMD's. They bought into their own BS. The IDF knew it was a lie from the start.

The only thing that is consistent is people's gullibility when it comes to made up stories about Jews.

The Jewish people on the whole are very good people. The dishonest long term reputation of the IDF is well known and fully justified as is this current Israeli governments extremism.

The IDF is a force for good:

The Hamas member who paraded Shani Louk’s dead body around Gaza on the back of a pick-up truck HAS BEEN KILLED by the IDF.
And not a moment too soon.

https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/1724994912829976991

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1476 - Nov 17^th, 2023 at 9:31am

Frank wrote on Nov 17^th, 2023 at 9:25am:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 17^th, 2023 at 8:57am:

freediver wrote on Nov 17^th, 2023 at 6:51am:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 10:02pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 9:51pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 9:49pm:

The IDF have a long history of propaganda and lies making it difficult to work out what is true and not.

Name a nation-state that doesn't do that.

None have been caught out as consistently as the IDF.

If you consider say the US and UK in Iraq - They really did expect to find WMD's. They bought into their own BS. The IDF knew it was a lie from the start.

The only thing that is consistent is people's gullibility when it comes to made up stories about Jews.

The Jewish people on the whole are very good people. The dishonest long term reputation of the IDF is well known and fully justified as is this current Israeli governments extremism.

The IDF is a force for good:

The Hamas member who paraded Shani Louk’s dead body around Gaza on the back of a pick-up truck HAS BEEN KILLED by the IDF.
And not a moment too soon.

https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/1724994912829976991

Where Are the International Women’s Organizations as the Shocking Scale of Hamas’s Sexual Violence Against Israeli Women on October 7 Becomes Horrifyingly Clear?

‘They failed us,’ one distinguished scholar says of international women’s rights groups who have refused to call out the atrocities. ‘They failed us.’
https://gellerreport.com/2023/11/womens-organizatons-silent-as-shocking-scale-of...

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1477 - Nov 17^th, 2023 at 9:36am

Frank wrote on Nov 17^th, 2023 at 9:25am:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 17^th, 2023 at 8:57am:

freediver wrote on Nov 17^th, 2023 at 6:51am:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 10:02pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 9:51pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 9:49pm:

The IDF have a long history of propaganda and lies making it difficult to work out what is true and not.

Name a nation-state that doesn't do that.

None have been caught out as consistently as the IDF.

If you consider say the US and UK in Iraq - They really did expect to find WMD's. They bought into their own BS. The IDF knew it was a lie from the start.

The only thing that is consistent is people's gullibility when it comes to made up stories about Jews.

The Jewish people on the whole are very good people. The dishonest long term reputation of the IDF is well known and fully justified as is this current Israeli governments extremism.

The IDF is a force for good:

The Hamas member who paraded Shani Louk’s dead body around Gaza on the back of a pick-up truck HAS BEEN KILLED by the IDF.
And not a moment too soon.

https://twitter.com/MarioNawfal/status/1724994912829976991

The IDF is a force for good:

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1478 - Nov 17^th, 2023 at 9:47am

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-67423274

Summary

Israel says troops in Gaza have found the body of hostage Yehudit Weiss, a 65-year-old woman abducted by Hamas on 7 October

Officials say she was recovered from a "structure adjacent to the Shifa hospital", as the military confirm it's continuing "targeted activity" there

The hospital director said hundreds of patients were still at the site; a witness earlier told the BBC "soldiers are everywhere, shooting in all directions"

Israel says its forces found a tunnel shaft and a "booby-trapped vehicle" on the grounds of the hospital

Mobile phone and internet services are down across Gaza because of a lack of fuel, Palestinian telecoms companies say

Telecoms firms Jawwal and Paltel say all energy sources sustaining their generators have run out; Israel has blocked all but one fuel delivery to Gaza since the start of the war

Israel started striking Gaza after Hamas's 7 October attacks, in which 1,200 people were killed and more than 200 hostages were taken

The Hamas-run health ministry says more than

11,500 people have been killed in Gaza since then

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 46508 Gender:	Re: The human cost in Gaza Reply #1479 - Nov 17^th, 2023 at 9:57am Succinctly put:
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1480 - Nov 17^th, 2023 at 10:11am

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 10:08pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 9:49pm:

Setanta wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 6:08pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 5:21pm:

Why would HAMAS build a bunker under the shifa hospital if they were not putting civilian lives at risk....HAMAS do not care about human life and claim evey Palastinian killed is a martyr for the cause???

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Fact Check: Did Israel Build Bunker Under Shifa Hospital?

True.

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-israel-build-bunker-under-shifa-hospital...

Dunno why whoever posted that thinks it matters. It's who is using them now and why that matters.

You don't think it matters that Israel may have built the bunker and / or that Hamas are not using it ?

The IDF have a long history of propaganda and lies making it difficult to work out what is true and not.

OMG! You’re seriously sitting there attempting to excuse a terrorist organisation like Hamas.

Read your bloody comment again Puddle Dumbarse Duck! You’ve specifically targeted Israel with that unsupported/unsubstantiated allegation but completely protected HAMAS from its reach.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1481 - Nov 17^th, 2023 at 10:14am

freediver wrote on Nov 17^th, 2023 at 6:51am:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 10:02pm:

MeisterEckhart wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 9:51pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 9:49pm:

The IDF have a long history of propaganda and lies making it difficult to work out what is true and not.

Name a nation-state that doesn't do that.

None have been caught out as consistently as the IDF.

If you consider say the US and UK in Iraq - They really did expect to find WMD's. They bought into their own BS. The IDF knew it was a lie from the start.

The only thing that is consistent is people's gullibility when it comes to made up stories about Jews.

And such people see fit to perpetuate these invented stories because they have convinced themselves that they are factual.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1482 - Nov 17^th, 2023 at 10:17am

mothra wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 8:43am:

Captain Nemo wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 8:34am:

https://i.imgur.com/7AWARcV.jpg

Have you stopped to think of the parallels to the cartoons you post and the propaganda posted over the years to sway opinions and create enemies of people? Particularly at such sensitive times?

Because i am brought very much to mind of that when i see many of the cartoons you post.

Well, I prefer a good pithy political cartoon to wading through masses of quoted quoted quotes. Cartoons have a way of cutting through. Cool

Since I quit being a "rusted on" voter, I have enjoyed poking fun at all sides of politics.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1483 - Nov 17^th, 2023 at 10:25am

Captain Nemo wrote on Nov 17^th, 2023 at 10:17am:

mothra wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 8:43am:

Captain Nemo wrote on Nov 16^th, 2023 at 8:34am:

https://i.imgur.com/7AWARcV.jpg

Have you stopped to think of the parallels to the cartoons you post and the propaganda posted over the years to sway opinions and create enemies of people? Particularly at such sensitive times?

Because i am brought very much to mind of that when i see many of the cartoons you post.

Well, I prefer a good pithy political cartoon to wading through masses of quoted quoted quotes. Cartoons have a way of cutting through. Cool

Since I quit being a "rusted on" voter, I have enjoyed poking fun at all sides of politics.

How do you get those Leak cartoons in jpg?

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1484 - Nov 17^th, 2023 at 10:26am

Bobby. wrote on Nov 17^th, 2023 at 9:47am:

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-67423274

Summary

Israel says troops in Gaza have found the body of hostage Yehudit Weiss, a 65-year-old woman abducted by Hamas on 7 October

Officials say she was recovered from a "structure adjacent to the Shifa hospital", as the military confirm it's continuing "targeted activity" there

The hospital director said hundreds of patients were still at the site; a witness earlier told the BBC "soldiers are everywhere, shooting in all directions"

Israel says its forces found a tunnel shaft and a "booby-trapped vehicle" on the grounds of the hospital

Mobile phone and internet services are down across Gaza because of a lack of fuel, Palestinian telecoms companies say

Telecoms firms Jawwal and Paltel say all energy sources sustaining their generators have run out; Israel has blocked all but one fuel delivery to Gaza since the start of the war

Israel started striking Gaza after Hamas's 7 October attacks, in which 1,200 people were killed and more than 200 hostages were taken

The Hamas-run health ministry says more than

11,500 people have been killed in Gaza since then

Well it looks like these Hamas terrorists will need to surrender instead of hiding behind the sick, the elderly and women and children which they’re USING. THESE are innocent people ie THEIR OWN PEOPLE which are being used as human shields. This is repugnant, abhorrent and absolutely unacceptable. Hopefully this HAMAS scourge will finally be destroyed and both Palestinian human shields AND Jewish hostages can finally be released.

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