aquascoot wrote on Dec 11
th, 2023 at 2:15pm:
Karnal wrote on Dec 11
th, 2023 at 1:54pm:
aquascoot wrote on Dec 11
th, 2023 at 1:14pm:
exactly bobby.
africa has 20 million displaced people.
they can deal with a couple of million more.
israel is playing a shrewd game
soon order will break down and the UN will set up a tent city in the sinai and egypt will be forced totake these displaced people
poland has taken several million displaced ukranians
egypt can take a couple of million displaced fellow arabs
when gaza has no food, water and diseases start to spread, the gazans will all leave
its the stalingrad solution but the noble israelis are leaving open an escape route into the sinai,
this is what steven covey calls "constructing the win/win"
I see. So Israel gets a stretch of burnt rubble it can turn into the next Palm Beach.
Egypt gets two million refugees with physical disabilities and PTSD.
A real win-win. No doubt it will trigger the NDIS legislation Egypt's been so keen to fund. Two million people will require a lot of houses too. That's a property boom - in the Sinai desert, no less.
Hot days, cold nights. Mind the sandstorms.
Yes, while Israel's building the new Palm Springs in the Gaza strip, Egypt will be competing for Indian and Philippino guest labourers to build the new suburbs of the Sinai. Roads, schools, shopping centres, medical centres. That's a real win-win, no? What sort of government could achieve such a great vision?
No "noble rightie", that's for sure. A true conservative would be sticking up for the property rights of Gazan landholders. No, you're talking social engineering on a Stalinist scale. This will need a Chairman Mao with a "noble Great Leap Forward." This will need an FDR with a "noble New Deal". We're talking a post-war reconstruction akin to the creation of the British "noble welfare state".
That rules out the Egyptian government, so I'm curious. Who should
fund your noble Stalingrad Solution?
We always had a hunch you were a closet socialist, you naughty old thing.
A "win-win", no?
bobby has pointed out there are already 20 million refugees in afrcia
lets concentrate on them and let the palestinians build something in the sinai
when they find a rock, they can use it to make a building instead of throwing it at an israeli tank
this is what steven covey calls constructing the win/win
I know, but it's also what the UNHCR calls forced displacement - a big no-no when you're a signatory to the UN Declaration of Human Rights and owe your entire existence to these principles.
I would have thought that if you're trying to construct the win/win, the idea is to get everybody to win.
The Gazans aren't happy. They'd like to move back into the apartments they saved up to buy. They want to go back to their jobs and their families.
The Egyptians aren't happy. They'd prefer to leave those rocks right where they are, thank you very much - at least until an environmental impact assessment has taken place and the Sinai desert can be found to be a suitable location for a city of two million.
The Superior Man bounces out of bed with a plan, you see. Hmm, he says. I have two million people - what to do with them? Should we whack them into an uninhabited desert with no water or facilities and leave them to fend for themselves?
I'm not sure about you, dear, but if I was the Superior Man, I'd be presenting Israel with my Superior Plan to leave Gazans right where they are.
I'd be saying, stop being khunts. Give the Palestinians their 16 year old prisoners back, get the remaining hostages out and start bring nice for a change.
Sure Hamas are total pricks, but you've already killed nearly 20,000. How many more do you want?
Being the SM, I'd expect Israel to listen, wouldn't you? If not, I'd say no more weapons for you. You guys can move into the Sinai desert, see how you like
that.