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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1890 - Dec 16th, 2023 at 4:46pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2023 at 4:43pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 16th, 2023 at 4:38pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2023 at 1:41pm:
The IDF are killing their own Israeli hostages now.

FFS   Roll Eyes



Do you know what happened and how?



Yes.

The IDF killed three unarmed Israeli hostages by pulling the triggers on their firearms.

Would you care to dispute those facts?

I'm curious.

Do you really think the IDF knew they were Israeli hostages, as you insinuate spinelessly, slimey creep? Really??

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1891 - Dec 16th, 2023 at 4:54pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2023 at 4:43pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 16th, 2023 at 4:38pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2023 at 1:41pm:
The IDF are killing their own Israeli hostages now.

FFS   Roll Eyes



Do you know what happened and how?



Yes.

The IDF killed three unarmed Israeli hostages by pulling the triggers on their firearms.

Would you care to dispute those facts?

I'm curious.

The IDF don't dispute them.

The Israeli military has said that its troops shot and killed three hostages being held by Hamas after mistakenly identifying them as a threat during fighting in a battle-torn neighbourhood of Gaza City.

“During combat in Shejaiya, the IDF mistakenly identified three Israeli hostages as a threat. As a result, the troops fired toward them and they were killed.”




For one of the most advanced military forces on the planet, they seem to make an awful lot of mistakes.

"Oops - we blew up a maternity hospital and accidentally slaughtered pregnant women and newborn babies - we thought Hamas was hiding there, but it turns out they weren't.  Our bad"

"Oops, we filled three Israeli hostages full of bullets because we couldn't tell the difference between ordinary unarmed Jewish citizens and heavily armed Hamas terrorists. Our bad again".


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Reply #1892 - Dec 16th, 2023 at 4:59pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 16th, 2023 at 4:44pm:
Karnal wrote on Dec 16th, 2023 at 2:59pm:
Roundup.



In the essay, The Age of Horrorism, Amis wrote that moderate Islam had lost a civil war within the faith.

In the interview, he said: "There's a definite urge - don't you have it? - to say, 'The Muslim community will have to suffer until it gets its house in order.' What sort of suffering? Not letting them travel. Deportation - further down the road. Curtailing of freedoms. Strip-searching people who look like they're from the Middle East or from Pakistan."



There is a definite urge, no? Ah, they were much simpler times back in 2007.

Back when Palestinians just had to accept being endlessly check-pointed, arbitrarily arrested, spat on, held at gunpoint and having American settlers' rubbish thrown on their roves.

Now they have to accept being carpet bombed with dumb bombs too.

That's some urge you have there, dear boy.

Have you ever thought of just having a wank instead?
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1893 - Dec 16th, 2023 at 5:02pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2023 at 4:54pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2023 at 4:43pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 16th, 2023 at 4:38pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2023 at 1:41pm:
The IDF are killing their own Israeli hostages now.

FFS   Roll Eyes



Do you know what happened and how?



Yes.

The IDF killed three unarmed Israeli hostages by pulling the triggers on their firearms.

Would you care to dispute those facts?

I'm curious.

The IDF don't dispute them.

The Israeli military has said that its troops shot and killed three hostages being held by Hamas after mistakenly identifying them as a threat during fighting in a battle-torn neighbourhood of Gaza City.

“During combat in Shejaiya, the IDF mistakenly identified three Israeli hostages as a threat. As a result, the troops fired toward them and they were killed.”




For one of the most advanced military forces on the planet, they seem to make an awful lot of mistakes.

"Oops - we blew up a maternity hospital and accidentally slaughtered pregnant women and newborn babies - we thought Hamas was hiding there, but it turns out they weren't.  Our bad"

"Oops, we filled three Israeli hostages full of bullets because we couldn't tell the difference between ordinary unarmed Jewish citizens and heavily armed Hamas terrorists. Our bad again".


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The Superior Man has trained himself not to notice skin colour, Greggery. It means as much to him as hair or eye colour, no?
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1894 - Dec 16th, 2023 at 5:14pm
 
Karnal wrote on Dec 16th, 2023 at 4:59pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 16th, 2023 at 4:44pm:
Karnal wrote on Dec 16th, 2023 at 2:59pm:
Roundup.



In the essay, The Age of Horrorism, Amis wrote that moderate Islam had lost a civil war within the faith.

In the interview, he said: "There's a definite urge - don't you have it? - to say, 'The Muslim community will have to suffer until it gets its house in order.' What sort of suffering? Not letting them travel. Deportation - further down the road. Curtailing of freedoms. Strip-searching people who look like they're from the Middle East or from Pakistan."



There is a definite urge, no? Ah, they were much simpler times back in 2007.

Back when Palestinians just had to accept being endlessly check-pointed, arbitrarily arrested, spat on, held at gunpoint and having American settlers' rubbish thrown on their roves.

Now they have to accept being carpet bombed with dumb bombs too.

That's some urge, no?


Inexplicably, Israel is doing that only to people who have sworn to destroying it, from the river to the sea.
You, on the other hand, would say as a classic libertarian if people wanted to openly destroy you:  "Come right in, help yourselves, we are all multicultural libertarians here, my local council even approved a Mosque on my street, that's how libertarian I am. Oh, yes.  It would be so wacist of me, shamefully white Pakistani Scottish veteran of the wars to OBJECT to you, tinted, swearthy chappies, when you just want to give effect to your freely and openly held views and values of killing every last Jew wherever you find them. "


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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1895 - Dec 16th, 2023 at 6:24pm
 
Karnal wrote on Dec 16th, 2023 at 5:02pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2023 at 4:54pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2023 at 4:43pm:
Frank wrote on Dec 16th, 2023 at 4:38pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 16th, 2023 at 1:41pm:
The IDF are killing their own Israeli hostages now.

FFS   Roll Eyes



Do you know what happened and how?



Yes.

The IDF killed three unarmed Israeli hostages by pulling the triggers on their firearms.

Would you care to dispute those facts?

I'm curious.

The IDF don't dispute them.

The Israeli military has said that its troops shot and killed three hostages being held by Hamas after mistakenly identifying them as a threat during fighting in a battle-torn neighbourhood of Gaza City.

“During combat in Shejaiya, the IDF mistakenly identified three Israeli hostages as a threat. As a result, the troops fired toward them and they were killed.”




For one of the most advanced military forces on the planet, they seem to make an awful lot of mistakes.

"Oops - we blew up a maternity hospital and accidentally slaughtered pregnant women and newborn babies - we thought Hamas was hiding there, but it turns out they weren't.  Our bad"

"Oops, we filled three Israeli hostages full of bullets because we couldn't tell the difference between ordinary unarmed Jewish citizens and heavily armed Hamas terrorists. Our bad again".


https://media1.tenor.com/m/ysO1G7A3XUgAAAAC/oh-my-bad-marcus.gif


The Superior Man has trained himself not to notice skin colour, Greggery. It means as much to him as hair or eye colour, no?


Ah.

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Reply #1896 - Dec 16th, 2023 at 6:30pm
 
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Inexplicably, Israel is doing that only to people who have sworn to destroying it, from the river to the sea.

You, on the other hand, would a classic libertarian if people wanted to openly destroy you:  "Come right in, help yourselves, we are all multicultural libertarians here, my local council even approved a Mosque on my street, that's how libertarian I am. Oh, yes.  It would be so wacist of me, shamefully white Pakistani Scottish veteran of the wars to OBJECT to you, tinted, swearthy chappies, when you just want to give effect to your freely and openly held views and values of killing every last Jew wherever you find them. "


I'm afraid me no speaka da English on this one (Paki/Buftie, all that), but did the old boy just say my local mosque freely and openly espouses views and values of killing every last Jew wherever you find them?

Is he saying the 20,000-odd thousand men, women and children of Gaza inexplicably killed by Israel in the past two months freely and openly espoused these views?

And is he extending these freely espoused views to the entire population of tinted, swarthy chappies around the world, just clamouring to get onto boats and planes to come to Australia to get on with the job of killing every last Jew wherever they find them?

I must say, it's a bit difficult to interpret, particularly given the dipsomanic references to "classic" and "multicultural  libertarians", the planning policies of the Cumberland Council and Pakistani-Scottish wars.

Does anybody here get it?
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Reply #1897 - Dec 16th, 2023 at 10:46pm
 
Gaza could have been a Middle East Singapore. It dug tunnels instead

Singapore’s revolution from an impoverished Third World outpost with no natural resources, no industry, and that relied on its neighbours for energy, food and water was achieved in not much more than a generation. Gaza had the same opportunity, but chose to pass.

By ALAN HOWE


Much of Gaza is in smouldering ruin. And Gazans are to blame. They voted for Hamas and polls show they would do so again, not that they have had the chance lately. Hamas likes to present itself as a resistance movement, but its raison d’etre is the slaughter of Jews – and anyone else who would support Israel’s democracy. Most Gazans agree with that.

The Washington Institute – Condoleezza Rice is an adviser, as was Henry Kissinger until his death last month – reported not long before Hamas’s October 7 slaughter of innocents in Israel that 57 per cent of Gazans expressed “a somewhat positive” opinion of Hamas, as did 52 per cent of Palestinians on the West Bank.

The Ramallah-based Arab World for Research and Development on November 14 published the results of a poll it had taken, one question of which was: How do you view the role of Hamas? A total of 48.2 per cent responded “very positively” while 27.8 per cent responded “somewhat positive”. That means 76 per cent of Palestinians support Hamas after its depraved foot-soldiers flooded into Israel in October incinerating families, killing babies, raping men and women they then shot dead, and decapitating with a shovel one woman who fought them off.

Gaza’s leader, Ismail Haniyeh, 1800km away at the time, saw it all unfold on Al Jazeera, which he watched in his luxury office in Doha, the capital of Qatar. (The Qatari government funds Al Jazeera, which is best known for its anti-Semitic, anti-American broadcasts and its glorification of Islamic terror.)

The Hamas boss and his 13 children prefer Doha to the challenges of life in Gaza – which he is not-so-slowly destroying from a distance.

Haniyeh reportedly is very wealthy. He is said to profit handsomely from the tunnel smuggling business, which can turn over $600m a year and circumvents the Egyptian and Israeli blockades of Gaza, so the status quo suits him fine. So far he has overseen five wars with Israel: 2008-09, 2012, 2014, 2021 and the one now under way. Every time, Haniyeh uses Gaza’s citizens as human shields – and thousands have died.

Things could have been so different for Gaza. There were proposals for its development that might have seen it on the trajectory that powered Singapore to economic prosperity after 1965.

And they have a few things in common. At independence in 1965, Singapore’s land mass (at low tide) was 578sq km – it has grown to 734sq km since reclaiming marshlands, mangrove swamps and mosquito-infested jungle. But it has many more inhabitants than Gaza with population density of 8330 people per square kilometre.

Gaza is 365sq km and had a population density of about 3600 people per square kilometre when Israel withdrew from the territory in August 2005. Despite constant claims of various genocides committed by Israel there since, Gaza’s population has rocketed and stands at 2,299,000 with a population density of 6507 per square kilometre.

Singapore’s gross domestic product per capita in 1965 was $US517. Last year it was $US87,884 and ahead of the US. The GDP for the West Bank and Gaza was about $US3100 last year – ahead of India but just below Sri Lanka.

Singapore’s revolution from an impoverished Third World outpost with no natural resources, no industry, and that relied on its neighbours for energy, food and water – does that sound familiar? – was achieved in not much more than a generation.

The future of the envied tiger economy was founded on racial and religious tolerance with a radical plan to invite foreign capital – which required political stability – and develop industrial land while investing deeply in education, basic at first but soon leaning towards the technical skills the new industries would need.

Last week the annual OECD Program for International Student Assessment results measuring the mathematical, reading and scientific literacy of 15-year-old students were announced. It rates the education performance of 81 countries: Singapore came out on top. Again.

In 2014 it was estimated that there were 600,000 tonnes of concrete in the smuggling and ammunition tunnels in Gaza. A recent estimate put that at about 725,000 tonnes. To put that into perspective, there are 80,000 tonnes of concrete in Sydney’s Gladesville Bridge whose arch, when it was completed in 1964, was the longest single concrete span in the world. There are 113,000 tonnes of concrete in the Empire State Building.

If you tell Palestinian children that Jews are the descendants of pigs and apes, that they stole your land and that every hardship you face is the direct result of their presence there, this is what you will get.

If you name streets, sporting events and even schools after mass-murdering terrorists and make celebrities of them when they are freed from jail, this is what you will get. If you make role models of those who would blow themselves up in places where Jews gather, this is what you will get.

Al Jazeera reported the story on July 14 this year of a group of Palestinian teenagers asked what they wanted to be when they grew up. They did not hesitate: “Martyrs,” they said in unison.
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Reply #1898 - Dec 17th, 2023 at 6:41pm
 
Was this at your mosque, wee arse bandit?



A cleric’s sermon at a southwest Sydney Islamic centre – the subject of two recently dropped investigations – has called for the establishment of a Muslim army to defend Islam and fight against the West.

“This (the Israel-Palestine conflict) has to be a spark for the Muslim community and the final solution, to unite (under one leader) who implements the sharia and sends Muslim armies to defend the lands of Islam,” a cleric known as “Brother Muhammad” told a crowd at the Al Madina Dawah Centre, Bankstown.

The Australian has previously reported how both the state and federal police had launched but then dropped investigations into previous sermons at the centre, from Abu Ousayd – also known as Wissam Haddad – and a cleric known as “Brother Ismail”.

In a Friday sermon, Brother Muhammad accused Israel of using an AI supercomputer to target Palestinian mothers and children, and said the Islamic world needed to become one ­nation under one leader with a Muslim army, calling it the “final solution”.

The final solution is we must be united as one state under a Muslim government,” he said. “All these lands must be united under one leader who implements the Koran and sunnah way of life: it will use its resources, its oil, its army to defend its people.

“The Muslim community needs a Muslim army to defend it and the lands of Islam … to fight for them and protect them.

“This is the only solution … everyone has to work for this cause in any way that they can.”

Brother Muhammad also took aim at the West – particularly the US, Britain and France – which, he said, “couldn’t wait until the butchering began”.

“The Western powers, the so-called beacons of democracy and human rights, they speak about these dictators in the past, about how ‘evil’ they were – what you (the West) are doing is far worse than any president in history. And yet you hold yourselves up to be these beacons?” he said.

Brother Muhammad said the West was “falling over themselves” to back Israel.

“They were frothing at the mouth, they couldn’t wait until the butchering began,” he said.

Brother Muhammad also said it was another chapter in a 1000-year war waged by the West to destroy the “ummah” – the Muslim community.

He also accused Israel of using a supercomputer to target women and children. “They (Israel) put information in, the computer crunches the numbers, it gives them some targets, they press the buttons, and hundreds of civilians and children are killed in one go,” the cleric said.

In early December, local and international media outlets reported how the Israeli Defence Forces was using – and which the IDF confirmed on its website – an AI-based system called Habsora (the Gospel, in English) to “produce targets at a fast pace”.

The cleric accused the Aus­tralian government of using legislation to silence and pressure the Islamic community.

“These countries that we live in, they surround us, they pressure us, they want to scare you with laws and legislation … to ­silence you,” Brother Muhammad said.

State and federal police have dropped their investigations into the series of hate-fuelled anti-­Semitic sermons in NSW, saying the clerics’ calls for jihad and spitting on Israel so “Jews would drown” didn’t meet the criminality threshold.
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Reply #1899 - Dec 17th, 2023 at 6:45pm
 
We are swamped by grusome islamic arseholes, many of them living up the street from the wee paki arse bandit.


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Reply #1900 - Dec 17th, 2023 at 8:20pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 16th, 2023 at 10:46pm:
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Arabs don't have the work ethic of the Chinese. Even the rich Arab states rely on oil and imported labour.
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Reply #1901 - Dec 17th, 2023 at 9:07pm
 
Detain all firebrands pending the first plane out... if they love the joint so much let them go to Gaza.... but they ain't getting Andalusia back any time soon..... unless Spain keeps importing them by the sinkingload... clutching the viper to its own bosom.... you can lead a fool to reason but you can't make him drink it.... it cost years and lives to drive the Muslims out of Europe - now the doors are wide open due to wokeness..... no wonder Europeans have become the Civilised Tribes...


... they put us on a train and boats and took us up to New York to the UN .... there we saw The Great Fathers and explained our rights and treaties of our Nations ... they shook us by the hand and said - "Endeavour to persevere"...... and they gave me a medal and sent us back home...... so we all...... Johnny British, Pierre Francois, Ludwig Deutscher, Luigi Papadopoulos, Manuel Spagnola ... thought about it for a while... "Endeavour To Persevere"....... when we had thought about it long enough, we declared war on the UN ...."
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Reply #1902 - Dec 17th, 2023 at 9:10pm
 
Frank wrote on Dec 17th, 2023 at 6:45pm:
We are swamped by grusome islamic arseholes, many of them living up the street from the wee paki arse bandit.




Bankistan ...... Lidcomecca ... Cabramascus ....
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Reply #1903 - Dec 17th, 2023 at 10:16pm
 
Jews are against the war in Gaza:


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Yisroel Dovid Weiss, Rabbi and spokesman for Neturei Karta,
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Reply #1904 - Dec 17th, 2023 at 10:26pm
 
Ironically, it is the 'religious' Jews who have always been the most 'anti' Palestinian and perpetrators of inciting 'difficulties' between Israel and Palestinians.

For this evil Jew to come out to cover his arse and his religious cause with his turncoat on the Israeli Military is no surprise.

Israelis and their Military have always been at odds with the psychotic-religious Jews.
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