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Reply #1950 - Dec 26^th, 2023 at 2:59pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 2:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 2:25pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 11:03am:

hamas started it.

Does that mean it's okay for Israel to continue murdering women, children, and babies and bombing hospitals?

All Bibi is doing is setting up another 2 to 3 generations of terrorists to attack Israel -
he really is an idiot and many Jews are totally against what he's doing.

No that is a far left claim Most Jews, especially inside Israel, even those who *loathe* Bibib have seen the western left's true colours in the last two months.

By the way, the Arab Muslim leaders (Abbas most recently) claim that they don't want to delegitimise Israel but the whole *concept* of "Nakba" is delegitmising the creation of Israel.

To take one example of many progressive voices who have distanced themselves from this Free, Free Palestine idiocy, the gay Canadian author Allan Stratton writes: “Oct. 7 was a life-changing gut punch to liberals like me. It turned many of us into Zionists, including those once sympathetic to the Palestine Liberation Organization. The sadistic bloodletting of Jews in the land of their birth shoved the horrors of the Holocaust in our faces. It wasn’t just the gleeful depravity of the Hamas murders, rapes and burnings that changed the world. Or Hamas’s barbarous use of Palestinian women and children as human shields and corpse propaganda. It was also the celebration of savagery by far-left intersectional apologists."

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1951 - Dec 26^th, 2023 at 3:38pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 2:26pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 11:03am:

This is what happens if you vote in terrorists to govern you.

When was the election, and what was the *result?

*i.e. what percentage voted them in?

It's alright sprint, I know you're busy. I got this.

Turns out the election was held in 2006, and Hamas only received 44% of the vote (and only won 74 of the 132 seats).

My year nine maths is a bit rusty, but I'm pretty sure 44% isn't a majority.

According to my rough calculations, that means 56% of the population did NOT vote for Hamas. Now that's a majority!

And, seeing as it was way back in 2006, none of the 8,500 children who have been murdered by the IDF in recent months weren't even born at the time of the election.

Moreover, their parents wouldn't have voted in that election - they were too young.

How many of those 44% do you think are still alive now, Sprint? I'm curious.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1952 - Dec 26^th, 2023 at 4:19pm

Somers Trail wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 2:59pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 2:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 2:25pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 11:03am:

hamas started it.

Does that mean it's okay for Israel to continue murdering women, children, and babies and bombing hospitals?

All Bibi is doing is setting up another 2 to 3 generations of terrorists to attack Israel -
he really is an idiot and many Jews are totally against what he's doing.

No that is a far left claim Most Jews, especially inside Israel, even those who *loathe* Bibib have seen the western left's true colours in the last two months.

By the way, the Arab Muslim leaders (Abbas most recently) claim that they don't want to delegitimise Israel but the whole *concept* of "Nakba" is delegitmising the creation of Israel.

To take one example of many progressive voices who have distanced themselves from this Free, Free Palestine idiocy, the gay Canadian author Allan Stratton writes: “Oct. 7 was a life-changing gut punch to liberals like me. It turned many of us into Zionists, including those once sympathetic to the Palestine Liberation Organization. The sadistic bloodletting of Jews in the land of their birth shoved the horrors of the Holocaust in our faces. It wasn’t just the gleeful depravity of the Hamas murders, rapes and burnings that changed the world. Or Hamas’s barbarous use of Palestinian women and children as human shields and corpse propaganda. It was also the celebration of savagery by far-left intersectional apologists."

Bibi has created 100s of 1000s of determined terrorists in Gaza.
Boys who have seen their family and friends murdered will grown up to be men -
and do anything to exact vengeance on Israel - even suicide bombing.
The barbaric war will continue long after our lifetimes -
it's almost like lions versus hyenas - the never ending war in Africa.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1953 - Dec 26^th, 2023 at 4:39pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 11:03am:

hamas started it. After decades of threatening an teaching their kids to kill jews, hamas started it.

This is what happens if you vote in terrorists to govern you.

After decades of having American blow-ins move onto your family land and having their garbage dropped on your roof, their kids throw their dogs' shit at your kids and their soldiers frisk you on your way to work each morning, you'd be voting Hamas too. Palestinians are told which streets they can walk on. Some aren't allowed on the street out their front door - they have to climb over their rooves and leave or enter the back way. Families and neighbourhoods are divided this way, totally on racial grounds - a completely apartheid society.

Still, Hamas was voted in over 20 years ago. They haven't had an election since, and polling shows only minority Gazan support.

If you ask me, that's incredibly gracious and forgiving. Israelis openly hate Palestinian Arabs. They are indoctrinated from pre-school through to the military. Palestinians are treated like scum in their own country. There is a deliberate Israeli policy in place to force them into exile.

If you were an Arab in Israel - Christian, Muslim or agnostic - you'd vote hard. Gazans arent even allowed to do that.

Israel, you see, has stopped all elections.

Ever get the feeling you've been fingered?

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1954 - Dec 26^th, 2023 at 4:51pm

They don't vote in Knesset elections because their corrupt and authoritarian leadership (whether the corrupt gangsters of the PLO or the genocidal theocrats of Hamas/IJ/Hezbollah) don't let them. If you want Gazans and WB Arabs to become Israelis, then say so.
There is no state of Palestine. 3 of the 5 Great Powers - the democracies - rightly do not indulge the 1988 PLO fantasy and support direct negotiations which is the only way an actual state of Palestine will ever be created. Gaza and the West Bank have not been part of any recognised sovereign state since 1918. This was also true in 1967.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 73969 Gender:	Re: The human cost in Gaza Reply #1955 - Dec 26^th, 2023 at 5:05pm If the idf were German they'd be known as nazi's
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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 57839 Here Gender:	Re: The human cost in Gaza Reply #1956 - Dec 26^th, 2023 at 5:10pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 11:03am: hamas started it. After decades of threatening an teaching their kids to kill jews, hamas started it. This is what happens if you vote in terrorists to govern you. Yes Net-n-Yahoo has been a disaster?
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 101399 Melbourne Gender:	Re: The human cost in Gaza Reply #1957 - Dec 26^th, 2023 at 5:13pm John Smith wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 5:05pm: If the idf were German they'd be known as nazi's The Jews learnt a lot from the Nazis - maybe they even have a nice shower waiting for the Gaza refugees?
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1958 - Dec 26^th, 2023 at 5:13pm

aquascoot wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 1:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 2:15am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 25^th, 2023 at 5:07pm:

20,000 dead is not enough for Israel to exact sufficient vengeance.

Will 40,000 be enough?

Will it be 100,000 ?

Would Israel take all 2.3 million Pallys and gas them to death if they could?

They'd have to do a more convincing job with the showers, Bobby.

I don't think telling them to remember the shelf number they left their shoes in is going to work this time.

Maybe they could try Aquascoot's trick: offer them a comfy tent in the Sinai desert with all mod cons, using a photo taken in Ghana.

wouldnt a comfy tent in the sinai penninsula be preferable?

gaza is like the warsaw ghetto BUT the military forces are TRYING to get the citizens to leave.

hardly a genocide. Roll Eyes

did the SS offer to call an uber for any polish jews who wished to leave?

if egypt wont take then then its time to call egypt out as the true villains

But of course. Up until the Final Solution, that was the policy - to encourage the Jews to exile.

So there you go, dear. You've knocked off the Nazis own policy.

Cunning, no? You're even pretending it's humane.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1959 - Dec 26^th, 2023 at 5:16pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 5:13pm:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 1:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 2:15am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 25^th, 2023 at 5:07pm:

20,000 dead is not enough for Israel to exact sufficient vengeance.

Will 40,000 be enough?

Will it be 100,000 ?

Would Israel take all 2.3 million Pallys and gas them to death if they could?

They'd have to do a more convincing job with the showers, Bobby.

I don't think telling them to remember the shelf number they left their shoes in is going to work this time.

Maybe they could try Aquascoot's trick: offer them a comfy tent in the Sinai desert with all mod cons, using a photo taken in Ghana.

wouldnt a comfy tent in the sinai penninsula be preferable?

gaza is like the warsaw ghetto BUT the military forces are TRYING to get the citizens to leave.

hardly a genocide. Roll Eyes

did the SS offer to call an uber for any polish jews who wished to leave?

if egypt wont take then then its time to call egypt out as the true villains

But of course. Up until the Final Solution, that was the policy - to encourage the Jews to exile.

So there you go, dear. You've knocked off the Nazis own policy.

Cunning, no? You're even pretending it's humane.

Will the Jews make soap out of any of the fat ones?

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 73969 Gender:	Re: The human cost in Gaza Reply #1960 - Dec 26^th, 2023 at 5:17pm It's most hilarious how those that have been crying loudest about refugees trying to get into Australia, are now blaming Gazans for choosing not to become refugees
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1961 - Dec 26^th, 2023 at 5:37pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 5:16pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 5:13pm:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 1:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 2:15am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 25^th, 2023 at 5:07pm:

20,000 dead is not enough for Israel to exact sufficient vengeance.

Will 40,000 be enough?

Will it be 100,000 ?

Would Israel take all 2.3 million Pallys and gas them to death if they could?

They'd have to do a more convincing job with the showers, Bobby.

I don't think telling them to remember the shelf number they left their shoes in is going to work this time.

Maybe they could try Aquascoot's trick: offer them a comfy tent in the Sinai desert with all mod cons, using a photo taken in Ghana.

wouldnt a comfy tent in the sinai penninsula be preferable?

gaza is like the warsaw ghetto BUT the military forces are TRYING to get the citizens to leave.

hardly a genocide. Roll Eyes

did the SS offer to call an uber for any polish jews who wished to leave?

if egypt wont take then then its time to call egypt out as the true villains

But of course. Up until the Final Solution, that was the policy - to encourage the Jews to exile.

So there you go, dear. You've knocked off the Nazis own policy.

Cunning, no? You're even pretending it's humane.

Will the Jews make soap out of any of the fat ones?

We'd better ask Aquascoot that one, Bobby.

Aquascoot, should the "noble Israeli" recycle his biological refuse?

The SM uses all parts of the animal, no? Most sustainable. He's a bit of a greenie that way.

The "noble A.H" always said that.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1962 - Dec 26^th, 2023 at 5:43pm

John Smith wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 5:17pm:

It's most hilarious how those that have been crying loudest about refugees trying to get into Australia, are now blaming Gazans for choosing not to become refugees Cheesy

The SM's like that, JS. He changes his plans to suit the conditions on the ground.

Steadfast, stable, direct. Hand on the tiller, steady as she goes, full steam ahead.

Glorious.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1963 - Dec 26^th, 2023 at 5:48pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 5:37pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 5:16pm:

Will the Jews make soap out of any of the fat ones?

We'd better ask Aquascoot that one, Bobby.

Aquascoot, should the "noble Israeli" recycle his biological refuse?

The SM uses all parts of the animal, no? Most sustainable. He's a bit of a greenie that way.

The "noble A.H" always said that.

But the question is -

will soap made out of Pallys smell nice? and

What would they call it - Pallymolive?

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #1964 - Dec 26^th, 2023 at 6:22pm

Karnal wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 5:13pm:

aquascoot wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 1:01pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 26^th, 2023 at 2:15am:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 25^th, 2023 at 5:07pm:

20,000 dead is not enough for Israel to exact sufficient vengeance.

Will 40,000 be enough?

Will it be 100,000 ?

Would Israel take all 2.3 million Pallys and gas them to death if they could?

They'd have to do a more convincing job with the showers, Bobby.

I don't think telling them to remember the shelf number they left their shoes in is going to work this time.

Maybe they could try Aquascoot's trick: offer them a comfy tent in the Sinai desert with all mod cons, using a photo taken in Ghana.

wouldnt a comfy tent in the sinai penninsula be preferable?

gaza is like the warsaw ghetto BUT the military forces are TRYING to get the citizens to leave.

hardly a genocide. Roll Eyes

did the SS offer to call an uber for any polish jews who wished to leave?

if egypt wont take then then its time to call egypt out as the true villains

But of course. Up until the Final Solution, that was the policy - to encourage the Jews to exile.

So there you go, dear. You've knocked off the Nazis own policy.

Cunning, no? You're even pretending it's humane.

its extremely humane

they cant be trusted to live next door, so you offer them an uber to egypt.

this is what steven covey calls a win/win

the gazans should fall to their knees and weep tears of gratitude that the israelis are humane (unlike hamas who are cowards )

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