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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #2040 - Jan 17^th, 2024 at 4:41pm

Nor would I promise to remove the troops from the now occupied buffer zone so they could do it all again.

There will be no peace until they are gone, because all they will do if peace is declared short of total victory, is rebuild and consolidate and then do it again. Let them all negotiate with Allah over the shortage of virgins... and if people choose to stand with them or beside them, that is their choice in a battle zone.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #2042 - Jan 17^th, 2024 at 7:13pm

thegreatdivide wrote on Jan 17^th, 2024 at 1:04pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 15^th, 2024 at 7:49pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 15^th, 2024 at 7:40pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 15^th, 2024 at 7:31pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 15^th, 2024 at 7:20pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 15^th, 2024 at 7:18pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 15^th, 2024 at 7:12pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 15^th, 2024 at 6:50pm:

https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/100th-day-gaza-genoc...

31,497 Palestinians in the Gaza Strip have been killed
as of today, 13 January 2024

How many dead Gazans will be enough to satisfy the blood lust of Israel?

You mean the bloodlust of Hamas, shirley? They started it, they let it continue. They could end it in a day if they hand themselves over, release hostages and give up the madness of hiding behind their families.

I dunno-
it's the fog of war -
many have surrendered and many more are dead.

And Hamas keep it coming. More need to surrender or be minced.

Set,
too many civilians are being slaughtered.

Take it up with Hamas.

Will you promise them a Palestinain state, if they promise to disband?

I'm in no position to promise them anything but my absolute disgust at what Hamas did. Just as absolute is my opinion that Israel be allowed to destroy it's enemies.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #2043 - Jan 17^th, 2024 at 7:22pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 17^th, 2024 at 3:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 15^th, 2024 at 8:02pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 15^th, 2024 at 7:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 15^th, 2024 at 7:40pm:

too many civilians are being slaughtered.

Correct and in fact it is almost only civilians being killed.

Mostly women and children. Cry

Yes.

Israel is slaughtering thousands of innocent women and children - deliberately - and their defence is "Hamas have done worse".

Their other excuse is "They started it".

Hamas and the IDF are both terrorist organisations, and they both need to be stopped.

YOU AND SMITH ARE THE TERRORISTS OF THIS FORUM.
YOU BOTH EVEN HIDE BEHIND MOTHRA.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #2046 - Jan 18^th, 2024 at 6:55pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 17^th, 2024 at 3:08pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 15^th, 2024 at 8:02pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 15^th, 2024 at 7:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 15^th, 2024 at 7:40pm:

too many civilians are being slaughtered.

Correct and in fact it is almost only civilians being killed.

Mostly women and children. Cry

Yes.

Israel is slaughtering thousands of innocent women and children - deliberately - and their defence is "Hamas have done worse".

Their other excuse is "They started it".

Hamas and the IDF are both terrorist organisations, and they both need to be stopped.

Nonsense.
Hamas started a war. They need to be obliterated. They must be killed until none is left or they admit that they are beaten, they surrender unconditionally and release all hostages. No other option.
They offered zero terms on 7 October, zero terms must be given on to them.

You start a war, you suffer the consequences.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #2047 - Jan 18^th, 2024 at 7:19pm

Different numbers for today but lower than previously reported - but still shocking.
Will the true numbers ever be known?
Many people are buried under tonnes of rubble.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/1/18/israels-war-on-gaza-live-medic...

Israel’s war on Gaza live: Air strikes kill more civilians as battles rage
A mourner reacts next to the bodies of Palestinians killed in an Israeli strike
By Stephen Quillen and Alma Milisic
Published On 18 Jan 202418 Jan 2024

An air strike in Rafah – an Israeli-designated “safe zone” – kills 16 people, including children, who were sheltering in a home.
A shipment of medical supplies for Israeli captives and Palestinians in need is being distributed as part of a deal brokered by Qatar and France.
US missiles rain down on sites used by Yemen’s Houthis after the armed group targeted an American Navy vessel and “scored a direct hit”.
At least

24,448 people killed

and 61,504 wounded in Israeli attacks on Gaza since October 7. The revised death toll in Israel from the October 7 Hamas attack stands at 1,139.

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 43854 Gender:	Re: The human cost in Gaza Reply #2048 - Jan 18^th, 2024 at 7:42pm Don't start a war if you don't like the consequences. H o w do you say that in Arabic?
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #2049 - Jan 18^th, 2024 at 7:48pm

Frank wrote on Jan 18^th, 2024 at 7:42pm:

Don't start a war if you don't like the consequences.

H o w do you say that in Arabic?

The majority of those affected by the war are women and children
who never wanted a war - never asked for a war.
Their aid money was stolen by Hamas and used to create a war machine including
hundreds of miles of expensive tunnels.
They are innocent victims.

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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #2050 - Jan 18^th, 2024 at 8:52pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 18^th, 2024 at 7:48pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 18^th, 2024 at 7:42pm:

Don't start a war if you don't like the consequences.

H o w do you say that in Arabic?

The majority of those affected by the war are women and children
who never wanted a war - never asked for a war.
Their aid money was stolen by Hamas and used to create a war machine including
hundreds of miles of expensive tunnels.
They are innocent victims.

Did Hamas not know that when they started this war?
Didn't ALL the Gazans who elected them and supported them for all these years know that? Didn't you know that?

Start a war, suffer the consequences. You know the alternative- don't start a war.

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 57839 Here Gender:	Re: The human cost in Gaza Reply #2051 - Jan 18^th, 2024 at 9:44pm Frank wrote on Jan 18^th, 2024 at 7:42pm: Don't start a war if you don't like the consequences. H o w do you say that in Arabic? The children of Palestine didn't start anything.
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #2053 - Jan 18^th, 2024 at 10:05pm

Frank wrote on Jan 18^th, 2024 at 8:52pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 18^th, 2024 at 7:48pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 18^th, 2024 at 7:42pm:

Don't start a war if you don't like the consequences.

H o w do you say that in Arabic?

The majority of those affected by the war are women and children
who never wanted a war - never asked for a war.
Their aid money was stolen by Hamas and used to create a war machine including
hundreds of miles of expensive tunnels.
They are innocent victims.

Did Hamas not know that when they started this war?
Didn't ALL the Gazans who elected them and supported them for all these years know that? Didn't you know that?

Start a war, suffer the consequences. You know the alternative- don't start a war.

This war started 75 years ago.
It can't be understood from one event.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 94665 Gender:	Re: The human cost in Gaza Reply #2054 - Jan 19^th, 2024 at 2:35am Frank wrote on Jan 18^th, 2024 at 7:42pm: Don't start a war if you don't like the consequences. H o w do you say that in Arabic? Good point, old boy. Don't play in the kindergarten while the Israelis are trying to bomb it. Year 9 maths, innit. Mom always said: don't play ball in the house, no?
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