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Reply #2205 - Apr 2nd, 2024 at 9:39pm
 
Jasin wrote on Apr 2nd, 2024 at 9:35pm:
And when your beloved Moslem Terrorists do to the French, what the Germans did to the Jews.

Will you still be vomiting your vitriolic venom?



Hamas would make gas chambers and gas every Jew if they could get away with it.
They are not nice people.
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Reply #2206 - Apr 2nd, 2024 at 9:40pm
 
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Reply #2207 - Apr 4th, 2024 at 6:31am
 
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04-03/drt-us-weapons-to-israel/103653536


A bomb that 'turns earth into liquid'


The Mark 80 series can be fitted with guidance kits and enhanced with GPS to turn them into "smart bombs", or Joint Direct Attack Munitions (JDAMs).

The blast of a MK84 is so immense "it turns earth into liquid", Marc Garlasco, a former Pentagon defence official and a war crimes investigator for the UN told the Associated Press.

"It pancakes entire buildings," he said.


He added an explosion in the open meant "instant death" for anyone within about 30m.

Lethal fragmentation can extend for up to 365m.



What's in the weapons package?

The package includes more than
1,800 MK84 2,000-pound bombs and 500 MK82 500-pound bombs
,
the officials told the US news outlets.

Reuters news agency said "two sources familiar with the effort" confirmed the reports, but the White House declined to comment on the weapons transfers.

It is believed Israel has already used hundreds of these types of heavy bombs throughout the war in Gaza.

Due to their size, they have been blamed for civilian deaths and large-scale destruction.

The unguided, so-called "dumb bombs", are said to be four times heavier than the largest bombs the US dropped during its campaign to defeat ISIS in Iraq.


MK-84  2,000 pound bomb for women and children in Gaza.


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Reply #2208 - Apr 4th, 2024 at 8:33am
 
Well, Hamas and Palestinians - was 7 October worth it?

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Reply #2209 - Apr 4th, 2024 at 8:53am
 
US ‘complicit’: Biden under pressure to halt weapons shipments to Israel

"Washington: US President Joe Biden is under growing pressure to limit the supply of weapons to Israel as members of his own ranks demand that the US stop being complicit in the murder of innocent people in Gaza.

As Biden declared he was “outraged and heartbroken” by the deaths of seven humanitarian workers killed by Israeli forces this week, Democrats have ramped up calls for the administration to stop sanctioning military aid to Israel unless the nation does more to protect lives.

The most damning condemnation came from progressive Jewish Senator Bernie Sanders, who described the carnage in Gaza as “one of the worst humanitarian disasters in the modern history of the world” and told Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to “stop murdering innocent people”.

“Right now, what Israel is doing is fighting not just Hamas, but going to war against the entire Palestinian people, and this World Central Kitchen horror is just one part of what the Netanyahu war machine is doing,” Sanders told MSNBC, in reference to the charity convoy that was struck while delivering aid to starving people in Gaza this week.

“We’re talking about people who today don’t have food, don’t have water, don’t have medical supplies, don’t have fuel. It is horrible, it is inexcusable, and it’s got to end right now – and the United States cannot continue to be complicit in the horror that is taking place now.”

Sanders – along with Democrat senators Tim Kaine, Elizabeth Warren and Chris Murphy – were among several members of Congress who wrote to the White House on March 22, arguing that Israel was clearly thwarting humanitarian assistance to Gaza, which violated a US directive requiring recipients of American military aid to comply with international human rights law.

This was followed by a letter from six House Democrats a day later, who urged Biden to make clear to Netanyahu that “so long as Israel continues to restrict the entry of humanitarian aid into Gaza, the continued provision of US security assistance to Israel would constitute a violation of existing US law and must be restricted”.

But Monday’s strike on the convoy of aid workers has intensified pressure all the more, after seven people were killed in tragedy – including Australian Zomi Frankcom and one American citizen.

The incident took place as the aid workers were travelling through a “deconflicted zone” in armoured cars carrying the group’s logo. Three British citizens, one Polish national and one Palestinian were also killed in the attack, which Israel’s top military commander acknowledged had been a “mistake” and the result of a “misidentification”.

Biden is said to have been privately enraged by the incident and issued a public statement overnight taking aim at Israel’s military tactics in a conflict that has killed nearly 200 aid workers so far.

“This is not a standalone incident,” he said, in his strongest statement yet against the Netanyahu government’s operations.

“The conflict has been one of the worst in recent memory in terms of how many aid workers have been killed. This is a major reason why distributing humanitarian aid in Gaza has been so difficult – because Israel has not done enough to protect aid workers trying to deliver desperately needed help to civilians.”

However, despite calling for “accountability” and demanding more humanitarian assistance into Gaza, the administration says it has no plans, at this stage, to change its policy towards Israel..."

smh.com.au/world/north-america/us-complicit-joe-biden-under-pressure-to-halt-wea
pons-shipments-to-israel-20240404-p5fh8n.html
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Re: The human cost in Gaza
Reply #2210 - Apr 4th, 2024 at 8:56am
 
Where's FD to say it's all hamas' propoganda Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #2211 - Apr 4th, 2024 at 9:12am
 
Polyphemus wrote on Apr 4th, 2024 at 8:53am:
US ‘complicit’: Biden under pressure to halt weapons shipments to Israel

"Washington: US President Joe Biden is under growing pressure to limit the supply of weapons to Israel as members of his own ranks demand that the US stop being complicit in the murder of innocent people in Gaza.

As Biden declared he was “outraged and heartbroken” by the deaths of seven humanitarian workers killed by Israeli forces this week, Democrats have ramped up calls for the administration to stop sanctioning military aid to Israel unless the nation does more to protect lives.

The most damning condemnation came from progressive Jewish Senator Bernie Sanders, who described the carnage in Gaza as “one of the worst humanitarian disasters in the modern history of the world” and told Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to “stop murdering innocent people”.

“Right now, what Israel is doing is fighting not just Hamas, but going to war against the entire Palestinian people, and this World Central Kitchen horror is just one part of what the Netanyahu war machine is doing,” Sanders told MSNBC, in reference to the charity convoy that was struck while delivering aid to starving people in Gaza this week.

“We’re talking about people who today don’t have food, don’t have water, don’t have medical supplies, don’t have fuel. It is horrible, it is inexcusable, and it’s got to end right now – and the United States cannot continue to be complicit in the horror that is taking place now.”

Sanders – along with Democrat senators Tim Kaine, Elizabeth Warren and Chris Murphy – were among several members of Congress who wrote to the White House on March 22, arguing that Israel was clearly thwarting humanitarian assistance to Gaza, which violated a US directive requiring recipients of American military aid to comply with international human rights law.

This was followed by a letter from six House Democrats a day later, who urged Biden to make clear to Netanyahu that “so long as Israel continues to restrict the entry of humanitarian aid into Gaza, the continued provision of US security assistance to Israel would constitute a violation of existing US law and must be restricted”.

But Monday’s strike on the convoy of aid workers has intensified pressure all the more, after seven people were killed in tragedy – including Australian Zomi Frankcom and one American citizen.

The incident took place as the aid workers were travelling through a “deconflicted zone” in armoured cars carrying the group’s logo. Three British citizens, one Polish national and one Palestinian were also killed in the attack, which Israel’s top military commander acknowledged had been a “mistake” and the result of a “misidentification”.

Biden is said to have been privately enraged by the incident and issued a public statement overnight taking aim at Israel’s military tactics in a conflict that has killed nearly 200 aid workers so far.

“This is not a standalone incident,” he said, in his strongest statement yet against the Netanyahu government’s operations.

“The conflict has been one of the worst in recent memory in terms of how many aid workers have been killed. This is a major reason why distributing humanitarian aid in Gaza has been so difficult – because Israel has not done enough to protect aid workers trying to deliver desperately needed help to civilians.”

However, despite calling for “accountability” and demanding more humanitarian assistance into Gaza, the administration says it has no plans, at this stage, to change its policy towards Israel..."

smh.com.au/world/north-america/us-complicit-joe-biden-under-pressure-to-halt-wea
pons-shipments-to-israel-20240404-p5fh8n.html



So why doesn't Hamas release the hostages and renounce any future 7 October style violence against civilians?

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Reply #2212 - Apr 4th, 2024 at 11:58am
 
Frank wrote on Apr 4th, 2024 at 8:33am:
Well, Hamas and Palestinians - was 7 October worth it?




1,800     MK84     2,000-pound bombs?
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Reply #2213 - Apr 4th, 2024 at 12:20pm
 
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68727828


World Central Kitchen founder José Andrés says Israel targeted staff in Gaza 'car by car'



5 hours ago

World Central Kitchen (WCK) founder José Andrés has accused Israeli forces in Gaza of targeting his aid workers "systematically, car by car".

Monday's strike which killed seven members of his staff was not a mistake, he said, repeating that Israeli forces had been told of their movements.

WCK workers from Australia, Canada, Poland, the UK and the US were killed as well as their Palestinian colleague.

Israel says the strike was a "grave mistake" and has apologised.

It has also promised an independent investigation.

According to the charity, the aid convoy was hit while leaving the Deir al-Balah warehouse, "where the team had unloaded more than 100 tonnes of humanitarian food aid brought to Gaza on the maritime route".

The convoy was made up of three vehicles, including two that were armoured, which clearly displayed the charity's logo. All three were hit during the strike.

Speaking to Reuters news agency on Wednesday, the Spanish-American celebrity chef said this was not a "bad luck situation where, 'oops,' we dropped the bomb in the wrong place".

In a separate interview with Israel's Channel 12 news, Mr Andrés said "it was really a direct attack on clearly marked vehicles whose movements were known by everybody at the IDF [Israel Defense Forces]".


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Reply #2214 - Apr 4th, 2024 at 1:41pm
 
This was an error by the Israelis, however its easy to see how it occurred. Driving around at night in armoured vehicles in a war zone....not very clever, especially given HAMAS tactics of using civilians as human shields.  These people are collateral damage. It happens in every conflict.
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Reply #2215 - Apr 4th, 2024 at 2:11pm
 
Belgarion wrote on Apr 4th, 2024 at 1:41pm:
This was an error by the Israelis, however its easy to see how it occurred. Driving around at night in armoured vehicles in a war zone....not very clever, especially given HAMAS tactics of using civilians as human shields.  These people are collateral damage. It happens in every conflict.



They had permission from the IDF.
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Reply #2216 - Apr 5th, 2024 at 3:38pm
 
https://www.barrons.com/news/health-ministry-in-hamas-run-gaza-says-war-death-to...


    FROM AFP NEWS

Health Ministry In Hamas-run Gaza Says War Death Toll At 33,037


By AFP - Agence France Presse

April 4, 2024

   
The health ministry in Hamas-run Gaza said Thursday that at least 33,037 people
have been killed in the territory during nearly six months of war between Israel and Palestinian militants.

The toll includes at least 62 deaths over the past 24 hours, a ministry statement said,
adding that 75,668 people have been wounded in the Gaza Strip since the war began
when Hamas militants attacked Israel on October 7.
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Reply #2217 - Apr 5th, 2024 at 4:19pm
 
https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump-says-hes-not-loving-the-way-israel-is-fighti...



Trump says he’s not ‘loving the way’ Israel is fighting in Gaza: It’s ‘losing PR war’


Former US president stresses support for IDF op against Hamas but calls to ‘get it over with’; rages at release of ‘the most heinous, most horrible tapes of buildings falling down’
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and Agencies Today, 6:50 am


“What I said very plainly is get it over with, and let’s get back to peace and stop killing people,” Trump said in an interview with conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt. “They have to get it done. Get it over with and get it over with fast because we have to — you have to get back to normalcy and peace.”

“I’m not sure that I’m loving the way they’re doing it,” he continued.

The former US president, who has criticized US President Joe Biden for being insufficiently supportive of Israel, clarified that he wanted Israel to secure “victory.” But he lamented that “it’s taking a long time” and advised Netanyahu to quickly wrap up the war.

Trump specifically criticized Israel’s decision to release footage of its offensive actions, calling them “the most heinous, most horrible tapes of buildings falling down. People are imagining there are a lot of people in those buildings… and they don’t like it… To me, it doesn’t make them look tough. They’re losing the PR war. They’re losing it big.”






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Reply #2218 - Apr 6th, 2024 at 2:39am
 
Such are the words of a Chicken-shyte in LTYC.
Such are the words of Palestinians.

Having murdered innocent, unarmed Israeli civilians at a Music Festival and beyond in a planned attack 'massacre' involving thousands of Terrorists.
The Terrorists and their supporters cry like cowards now that Vengeance has come upon them and they hide behind their women and children, let alone dress in their clothes.

In a famous few lines: "Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

And so it shall be for Palestine and its supporters of Murder, Massacres, Rape, Torture, Execution and hatred in the name of Satanism.
Palestine shall soon cease to exist, once and for all.

I'm sure the cry-babies like LTYC can continue on around the world for decades to come crying how they were wronged.   Grin

Let's not forget LTYC's claims of 'moral rules of conduct' in War here, after what his beloved Palestine committed.
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Reply #2219 - Apr 6th, 2024 at 4:30pm
 
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If you can't be a good example, you have to be a horrible warning.
 
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